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Deskjet
on 2003-01-09 12:44 [#00508083]
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I picked up an album I'd been meaning to get for a while, Supermodified by Amon Tobin. it's a brilliant piece of work
and knowing that he uses a lot of samples in his music I was
expecting to see a huge list of sample credits but there isn't any it simply states "written & Produced by Amon Tobin.... but there's obviously a multitude of samples on the record. How is it he can, for lack of a better term get
away with claming to have written and produced all the tracks? Anyone know the ins n' outs of sampling law?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-09 12:55 [#00508116]
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I know it pretty well. It varies from country to country, but the general spirit of the US/European/UK law is:
Samples must either be: Used with permission,
"Royalty free" (the law says you have to prove they were royalty free, not the originator prove they weren't),
From something you own the copyright to,
or there is some weird royalty payment thing (which I don't claim to fully understand) whereby you have to pay some percentage of your profits to some united artists syndicate and can use extracts of a track (or do a cover version) even without the artists permission.
Lots of recording artists don't bother to reference/pay for samples if it's from something obscure...
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hobbes
from age on 2003-01-09 13:09 [#00508146]
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it depends on the number of "bars" you take. wich does cause problems with bass lines...they hardly ever get credited
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-09 14:00 [#00508194]
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In the Uk the court decides what proportion of the composition it is that is sampled. A good example would be the verve's "bitter sweet symphony" - the court decided it was nearly all a cover (main melody was nicked)
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