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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-06 13:43 [#00503958]
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I liked it instantly, for some reason... it started out good for me and just got better and better. It's perfect.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-06 13:46 [#00503963]
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you have said differently on many many confield-threads ophecks :-p
Always talking about how confield was your first autechre-album, and probably the wrong one to start with... you hated it to death but forced yourself to listen to it anyway, and only then started liking it ;-)
so there
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-01-06 13:47 [#00503965]
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but i do ;)
though i have to admit that i've only heard it maybe 4 or 5 times, can't say anything about the growing effect. but i sort of feel the same amount of effort behind. and 'in quod' is very dark, methinks. but it comes to opinions in this one
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-06 13:51 [#00503975]
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Well, it might have been the wrong one to start, but I never ''hated'' it! I remember being really impressed with Pen Expers, Cfern and Eidetic Casein, I guess I MAY have ''hated'' the rest of it... it's been a while. I don't even remember my first time hearing Sgt. Pepper, so you can't really trust my memory on these things. ;-)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-01-06 13:54 [#00503979]
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i think winter in the belly is surely great, but it's not really dark. it is not the horror like confield.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-01-06 13:54 [#00503980]
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confield is actually a great albumn to play when you are drunk... like really drunk. it works
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-01-06 13:57 [#00503983]
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confield fits the movie pi very good
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-01-06 13:57 [#00503986]
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it's different of course, but dark nonethless imo, well that's up to opinions now
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-06 14:00 [#00503992]
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blast! I was hoping to find some nice juicy quotes of you saying you hated it at first... hm... but i can't seem to find any at the moment ;-)
I was sure i heard you say it on several occasions though. Someday i'll find proof! :-p
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-06 14:08 [#00503997]
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Hmm, I could delete all that ''proof''...
]:->
But I never hated it! You like like a rug! Gantz Graf can kiss my ass, though.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-01-06 14:12 [#00504000]
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Damn you all, I feel like I should buy that next instead of what I was supposed to...*checks list*...Cassetteboy....nah Confield can wait!
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-06 16:19 [#00504136]
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confield=best Ae releaese period, I also find NOTHING dark about confield, its magnificent though, i do like gantz graf too. i cant see how people say gantz graf is less crazy than confield, its way more crazy than confield. when i heard it was so "random" i finally heard it and it definately wasnt at all(talking about confield)
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slint
on 2003-01-06 16:29 [#00504156]
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this is the best idm cd of all time dark,austere,complex,difficult. i love it.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-01-06 16:37 [#00504170]
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it's a very good piece of musical work, but not ae's best imo
I do love listening to it and discovering new aspects in all of its wonderfully dark complexity. It's put together so well, everything seemingly placed so carefully.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-01-06 17:06 [#00504212]
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agree with Cfern it's absolutely perfect to listen to drunk.
i also say it's the best electronica ever, definatly ae's best
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-06 17:41 [#00504268]
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Lol, yeah i guess you could have, but you didn't ;-)
I searched for a bit, and found no less than four examples of you saying you hated confield at first. Sometimes even litterally using the word "hate"...
You might have forgotten your first impressions, but george is here to refresh your memory :-p
I took the liberty of highlighting the most interesting bits...
first example... I STARTED at Confield, and worked my way back... that was an adventure. I hated everything I heard, thought they were overrated... but now I'm convinced they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. I probably should have started out at Incunabla or something, Confield ALMOST turned me off them... it was a dangerous path
other example... I was the same way... I made the mistake of listening to CONFIELD first... eep. I kind of forced myself to listen to them, and I grew to love them. Now nothing compares to them...
example #3.... (george's note: this thread was entitled "confield = sloppy mess?", and ophecks replied):
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no non on on onono noono nononononohnononnononononononono
NOONONONONONONONONON NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I felt the same way for a month or two... and now I think it's one of the best albums EVER. So stick with it, or I'll kick your ass.
and yet another example :-)... Time is of the essence, man... give them TIME! I hated Confield for a month, but now I'm convinced it's the
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-06 17:44 [#00504271]
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHH!! I hate it when the mb cuts off my messages!! Why does it do that? WHY?!
Anyway: here is the rest of it:
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and yet another example :-)... Time is of the essence, man... give them TIME! I hated Confield for a month, but now I'm convinced it's the most important human creation since... since... ANYTHING!
Facts don't lie buddy! :-p
[insert picture of even cuter kittie with the words "I ownz jOO more!" written over it]
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-06 17:51 [#00504283]
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oh my god.
you really have turned into George.
only George would actually go and look for those posts.. : s
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-06 17:53 [#00504286]
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oh yeah? well... the jerk-store called, and they're running out of you!
;-)
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-01-06 17:53 [#00504287]
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hehee!
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-06 18:03 [#00504300]
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george, i remember all those posts too, you werent alone remembering ophecks hating it.
"theyre ALL Twix!"
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-06 18:05 [#00504305]
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heh remember, kramer-"hey do you want a twix bar?" car guy-"no i dont like coconut" kramer-"ok how about a mounds bar?" car guy-"sure"
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-06 18:06 [#00504307]
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kinda got sidetracked with seinfeld there, seinfeld and confield, a strange combination :)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-06 18:14 [#00504317]
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"george, i remember all those posts too, you werent alone remembering ophecks hating it."
Yes! ;-) I knew it... being a true neurotic person, i couldn't let this just pass by...
Ophecks from Sydney, Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-06 21:43 [#00503958]
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I liked it instantly, for some reason... it started out good for me and just got better and better. It's perfect.
hah! I can't wait till ophecks comes online again >:-) muwhahahaha!
"theyre ALL Twix!""
lol, classic ;-) Only george would understand how i feel! He too sees the importance (not to mention the great feeling it gives you) of being right :-p No matter how far you have to go for it, hehe!
"I think I've reached a point in my life where I can tell the difference between nougat and cookie!!"
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optimus prime
on 2003-01-06 18:19 [#00504325]
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i listened to it on big headphones whilw watching lain with the sound off (and no subtitles). Just about the first 3 episodes. It really needs to be experienced, transportation phenomenon and such, 4th dimension etc.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-07 00:57 [#00504606]
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hey, for a week ago i thought about making an avatar out of that episode (The Dealership) you know, that part where the others have eaten all twix bars which George lined up..
the part where he goes insane, he looks up and you see a turning camerashot from above..
i'll try it some time .. george is the man!!!
strange thing about that episode though.. all the time george is looking for food, he's damn hungry (he would do everything for a donut or a twix) and then all of a sudden he has plenty of twix-bars to make a line-up with.. why didn't he eat them himself i wonder..?
(yea to take revenge on sal, mal or whatever his name was.. (short name))
the end is also hilarious when kramer and the other dude run out of gas.. just for about 20 sec. they're having fun ("WHOOOOOHOOOOOOWWW WHOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOWWWWW") haha and then kramer splits..
ow damn.. this is a confield-thread... eh.. yeah.. and i like it, and eh.. especially pen expers and eh.. cfern
..ow and err.. ow yes eidetic casein, thank you hello i like it confield very much, very nice, yes please :D
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-07 01:52 [#00504645]
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even though George his hungry, he wants to be right.
and that is always stronger.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-07 06:33 [#00504935]
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haha yeah you're right... but how did he get them..? he didn't have any 'crisp dolar bills' left ;)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-07 06:34 [#00504936]
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*dollar
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-07 08:54 [#00505126]
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yes indeed... that is the biggest joke of the entire episode! Even though he is sooo hungry... he still thinks it's more important to prove that he's right ;-) Gotta love george.
I must admit i also wondered how he suddenly got the money to buy all those twixbars. Maybe he borrowed some more from jerry, who knows :-)
>the end is also hilarious when kramer >and the other dude run out of gas..
Yeah... the Kramer-story in that episode is also really great!
Kramer: "You know, oftentimes, Jerry - he lend me his car and I find myself in a situation where the car is almost out of gas. But, for a variety of reasons, I don't want to be the one responsible for purchasing costly gasoline."
Carsalesman: "So, you want to know how far you can drive your friend's car for free?"
Kramer: (highpitched voice) "Well, I make it up to him in other ways!"
hm... i wish i could contribute something to the confieldishness of this thread... but i haven't heard anything from the album yet... Uhm... well... i don't really like the artwork for his one? ;-)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-07 09:00 [#00505145]
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"hey, for a week ago i thought about making an avatar out of that episode (The Dealership) you know, that part where the others have eaten all twix bars which George lined up.. the part where he goes insane, he looks up and you see a turning camerashot from above.."
yeah morton! That would be really cool :-) You should go for it!
But it sounds difficult... where would you get the footage from that episode? And how will you fit it all in 12kB?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-07 09:19 [#00505177]
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Alright, you win! I guess I DIDN'T like Confield right away. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?!?!??!?!
But in my defense (or not...), I said some stupid shit back then that I can't believe I said! I'd like to marry Confield someday.
Now that you've proved your point, Costanza, you can just...
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-07 09:24 [#00505188]
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"ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?!?!??!?! "
mmmm... you can't even imagine how good this feels for me!! :-p
"I said some stupid shit back then"
lol @ "back then"... it was only a few months ago ;-)
But okay okay, i won't rub it in. I've made my point. Now that we've established that i was right and you were wrong, i won't say another word about it :-p
*zip*
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-01-07 11:50 [#00505326]
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hahahahh! ZIP IT!
<- fires up parhelic after finishing a brew to lentic
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-07 14:14 [#00505502]
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But it sounds difficult... where would you get the footage from that episode? And how will you fit it all in 12kB
hahaa my man, i've got all 180 episodes on my hard drive, from 'Good News Bad News' till 'The Final Episode [2/2]' , i can just open a part of an episode with my 'Paint Shop'.. it cuts the movie in little parts (like very fast taken screenshots) and i can use them to make an avatar..
did the same with that winking Kramer ;) got it in 12 kb, i think it'll work.. i really don't feel like putting that much effort in it right now, but i will soon :)
hope it'll work :D
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Archrival
on 2003-01-07 15:27 [#00505560]
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fuck it, this sounds cliche but....ok I hated it first (not just hate it, I thought it was the worst piece of shit I ever heard) but now im so dam in love with it, its the perfect album to just zone out ta ;)
Have u heard that story before? :=)
nah seriously I adore this ablum-.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-07 16:35 [#00505630]
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"i've got all 180 episodes on my hard drive"
jesus christ! :-p And i thought i was a big fan of the show!
"from 'Good News Bad News' till 'The Final Episode [2/2]'"
lol, in a way i'm glad i don't have them all on my harddrive ;-) I'm sure i would do nothing else but watch seinfeld all day long if i did.
Anyway... it sounds like a great idea! It's a shame avatars don't come with sound ;-) I would love to hear george scream "noooooooooooooooo" everytime i opened a thread with you in it :-p
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-07 16:43 [#00505638]
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Hahaha would become quite a mess i think.. if everybody had sound with his avatar
yeah i'm really fond of my episodes.. just some are in bad quality though, still look for better ones, but it's def. worth the 7 Gb :D
when i started downloading them all, i thought of putting them all on a CD-r, but it turns out i'll need 10 or 11 !!
man i still think it's a shame that they aren't on video, i'm sure i would sell like hell!
good enough for today i'm off to bed goodnight Mr Marbles ;)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-07 17:02 [#00505657]
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seinfeld on dvd... now there's an idea!!
Maybe the avatars should have a little tiny button beneath them, and when you click it they produce a snippet of sound ;-) That would keep things organised.
But goodnight to you too. sleep tight + don't let the bedbugs bite.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-07 18:55 [#00505765]
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I used to have like 50 episodes but I ran out of space, my friend had a lot of episodes(like 100 or so). when a dvd comes out i'll just go on a seinfeld overload and watch them all within a short amount of time.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-07 18:56 [#00505766]
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maybe i'll bring back my kramer avatar from a while back sometime....could be a while, just put this avatar up
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-01-07 19:00 [#00505769]
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there's pieces of gantz graf all over the album
i love it
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-01-07 20:43 [#00505865]
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i think the word everyone is looking for is COLD not dark.... i don't think that the albumn is dark like in the way nin is dark... COLD seems to describe it... but it's just a word i guess.
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jockeaxelsson
from norrtelje (Sweden) on 2003-01-08 01:00 [#00505995]
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I think confield is autechre?s second best album, lp5 is best. but it has the most homogenic sound through the whole cd, eventhough the tracks contrasts each others...
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-01-08 19:10 [#00507202]
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each time i see a new 'confield' thread, i say to myself, not again! and each time i read through it, it always makes me put the album on and am glad to have read yet another confield thread!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-08 20:42 [#00507262]
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no! not COLD!
it is NOT cold!
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