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My crossfader is bleeding on one side, should I bother with crossfader cleaning fluid or just buy a replacement fader? I've heard some people say that crossfader cleaning spray is a waste of money, but I want a second opinion... |
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Come on Spikee & Jonesy, surely you know about this? :S |
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Well, mine went after about 8 months and I had to have it replaced. What do you mean its 'bleeding'? |
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the audio from channel 1 leaking into channel 2 perhaps. |
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That's right, it fades out in line with the curve, but just before the "dead zone" (mute bit) it bleeds back in at half volume on just the left channel. It also makes a quiet radio static type noise around that area. Oh for a Vestax Samuri series mixer... |
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mine was making noise so I lubed it up with some wd-40, it basically did the trick, but didnt stop the bleed, so youve basically got to make sure to use the channels volume control after you complete your mixes in the end though, its time for a replacement |
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or basically throw away the mixer or basically give it to me |
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Buy a replacement crossfader. |
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WD-40, are you serious? That's meant to be the worst thing you can put on them! Apparently it makes them bleed all the time. I've had a look and a replacement is only £25 so I'll go for that. Does anyone know if you can chang the faceplate of crossfaders? I want my nice gold one not the scatty black one on the replacement... |
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You should be able to change the plate.. np. |
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it depends what type of crosssfader it is. i have experience with the vestax pro faders, as used in the pmc 05/06/07 A series scratch mixers, if that helps. post up what type of mixer/fader! |
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Ah right, that makes more sense... It's a Vestax PMC-270A |
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And is the type of crossfader it uses. |
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I'm considering getting a PMC06 Pro 2 as a scratch mixer, but I've heard they're prone to bleeding. Is that true? Would you recommend them? I doubt I'd be able to afford the Samuri series version... |
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ah right i used to use that fader in the pmc03a mixer (very entry level) but anyway this fader is harder to fix than the pro fader, partly becuase the pro faders are very long life and secondly because of the design. if you do lots of scratching, i would suggest a new mixer! seriously, you will recoup the xfader money for replacements by spending more on a mixer. but if it is just wear and tear, then it would be fairly easy to fix the fader. the fader needs to be taken apart, this should involve a screwdriver (i recomend a #0 or #1 pozidrive) some yanking may also be required. havent done this for quite a while, but i think it opens up to show you the tracks, etc. use a cotton bud dipped in iso-propyl alcohol, or for non-chemists out there, meths. use the cotton bud in meths to rub along the tracks and the black carbon should come off. clean in until the carbon stops coming off. add some sewing machine oil (my fav, but any will do) to the rails the fader slides on, NOT the carbon tracks.... if you fancy your luck or have particularly nible fingers, poking the metal contacts on the fader so they form a better connection with the carbon should help, but be careful, because you could do more harm than good. like i said, easier with the pro series! a replacement isnt much, so if it all go really wrong, then you can just jab at it violently to see if can be coaxed back into life for another few months. hope that helps. if you need any more advice then just ask. |
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My crossfader is horrifically basic but it will be a long time before I dabble with that equipment as I'm currently focusing on my new PC. The case of that alone was over £200. |
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ive got a pmc 06 proA, ie not the samurai, its a great mixer, i had a little prob with the xfader, but fixed that. i asked other people, and around 99.5% of the faders last for over 7 years! go on get the mixer:) |
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Thanks for the advice Dave, I suppose I may as well try to clean the fader to extend its life if I'm going to replace it anyway. Ideally I want to have the 2 mixers, my PMC270a for beat mixing and also the samuri for scratching. I don't scratch a lot (mainly because of my pants mixer ;P) but it's something I'd like to get into as I really enjoy it. Plus I want to take advantage of the great tracking of my decks (I have PDX-2000s). |
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I have a PMC 17a and the X Fader badly needs to be replaced, but overall, I'm not too impressed with this mixer, the EQ is pants and it gets too dirty too quickly |
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glad to help. yeah get the samurai if you can afford, or get the normal 06. the samurai is wicked, but the normal one is from the series all the pros still use. the 07/05/06 series all use the same fader as used by, Qbert, D-styles, mixmastermike,babu,etc if that means anything to you. how are the pdx2000's? i cant decide what to get.... 1210=reliable, built like a tank pdx2000=lots of features+nice torque but little flimsy/weird? stantonstr8-100=hmmm maybe......maybe not! new numark tt-x1, seen them been on them, v.high torque, but dont like them! ginge:you get what you pay for :) |
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As you're a scratcher, what do you think of scratching electronic beeps rather than traditional beats/vocals etc.? Personally I far prefer then and due to the simplicity and purity of a digital beep you can get good natural sounding pitch changes with slow/fast scratches. |
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id like one of those pioneer djm600s, apparently theyre great, have a sampler on them as well Ive also heard good things about the allen & heath mixers, too bad I cant spend 2000 dollars on a little box that blends things together |
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I'm familiar with the work of all those artists. Can you recommend a good scratch tutorial video/DVD? Me and a friend want to go halves on one as it's hard to see exactly how to do them from text descriptions. I can tear and scribble pretty well and have even made my own scratch that I've not seen/read about anywhere else, but when it comes to scratches that rely on crossfaders I'm obvioulsy scuppered. The PDX-2000s are far and away the best turntable for scratching- absolutely incredible tracking. There's a lot of slagging off of the vestax, largely by people who either: a) have bought technics instead and don't want to admit they made the wrong choice. or b) Are technics zealots who will buy anything. 2 of the most common untruths are: They (vestax) wear out your records quicker and also that vestax are very fragile and are expensive to repair. These are both untrue- due to the brilliant tracking and straight arm ATST tracking you need very low pressure to stop skips and you don't get inward tracking (I've tried it with a blank record and it barely moves). Vestax are slightly more fragile, but they're no where near as weak as people make out. They're made out of ABS based around a steel base, but unlike thin sheets of ABS (notoriously brittle) they're very solid. The slightly more vunerable nature of them is tempered by the fact everything on them bar the motor is user servicable unlike technics... |
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i like to combine the electronic beeps with more natural sounds in an un-natural way;) basically it depends what you intend to do with the scratch. if it is going to be a looped melodic element, then electronic sounds are excellent (super duper duck breaks has a good set of non-skippable tones). if the scratch is in a chorus or a bridge for example, then it may be better to use more natural sounds, such as vocals. electronic sounds generally dont change too much in formant, unlike vocals,which also may affect their use. spinning an electronic beat slowly and transforming it at different speeds gives you the best sounds. vocals or ahhh or fresh may sound better at high speed with fast or slow transforming, but MOST electronic sounds are not suited to this. the more complex sounds are not as good at high speed, than simple sine waves/ tri/square/etc. when i say speed, i mean speed you change froma forward stroke to a backwards stroke, not xfader! i recomend you get the Y battle record or the 8bit construction set battle record for some nice electronic sounds. also dj butchwax's(dj flare) heehaw breaks has a large collection of computer game type sounds if youre interested. |
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I used Technic MK2 and 3's as well as the PDX2000 and others (Stantons etc.) before deciding which to buy. Despite being able to get the Mk3s for less (company discount) I still went for the PDX2000s. So long as people don't stick with technics on principle and Vestax repair/support service is good I can see a slim chance of them overtaking technics as the market leader. I know more and more hip hop clubs are swithing to PDX-2000s which is a good sign. |
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I've seen the videogames breaks record battle wax. That's probably going to be my first battle wax. |
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Dave, which slipmats (from a purely practical point of view for scratching- I don't care how they look) woudl you recommend? I was meant to get some butter rugs v2.0's for xmas but the idiots in the shop didn't get them. |
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