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Music Has The Right To Children-very dissapointed.
 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-13 18:17 [#00480439]
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Since I've seen many raving about BoC here, I decided to
purchase their first (?) album.
I must say I can't see why so many peole love it so much-is
there something I'm not getting?
When I first heard Autechre, I remember slating it here;
but, it interested me...it made me want to hear more. And
now I've gotten used to Autechre, and Confield's my most
admired album ever.

However, I can't see the same happening for MHTRTC; it's
just way to repetitive for me (not in a slightly
changing/shifting kinda way either-it just stays the same)
and although I admit tracks eventually develope, it's too
little and it takes too long imo.
I feel ridiculous in a way for not "getting" this album; but
to me, unlike other idm artists I hated at first, I can't
see that there's anything to "get" here at all.

Sorry, I simply find it dead boring!

Anyone else not particularly into this album like me, or am
I just weird?



 

offline uviol from United States on 2002-12-13 18:23 [#00480443]
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I love it, but when I got it it was not nearly as hyped as
it is now. I had read virtually nothing on it. You dislike
it probably because you're supposed to like it. Give it a
few more listens realizing that maybe it's not the best
thing ever. Maybe it'll click, maybe not.


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-12-13 18:25 [#00480447]
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open up your ears, clean out your eyes... it would be nice
to be alive


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-12-13 18:35 [#00480452]
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ah geez people get spoiled by aphex and squarepusher's hyper
programming...

its a bit unfortunate when people cant appreciate music if
it doesnt change every two seconds

though i must say.. when i first got into them.. mhtrtc
bored me a bit too.. so yeah i guess it takes a bit to get
used to after a steady diet of aphex and sp's more recent
works..



 

offline Mr_Flappypants from Louisville (United States) on 2002-12-13 18:36 [#00480453]
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Listen to Turquoise Hexagon Sun, Rue the Whirl, and Sixtyten
as much as you possibly can.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-12-13 18:37 [#00480454]
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its almost like musical ADD, actually


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-12-13 18:37 [#00480455]
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listen to it a bit more...you'll find out eventually.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-13 18:39 [#00480456]
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"ah geez people get spoiled by aphex and squarepusher's
hyper
programming...

its a bit unfortunate when people cant appreciate music if
it doesnt change every two seconds

though i must say.. when i first got into them.. mhtrtc
bored me a bit too.. so yeah i guess it takes a bit to get
used to after a steady diet of aphex and sp's more recent
works.. "

Hehe! You are AMAZINGLY right....I've been listening to
nothing but Aphex, Autechre, and ESPECIALLY Squarepusher
lately, and that's probably why this album seems a
little..bland? Not bland, actually...rather, well...all I
can think of is repetitive. :D


 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2002-12-13 18:41 [#00480460]
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CS2x,

I understand what your saying when I first heard BOC I just
couldn't understand the hype. But the truth is I heard it a
few more times and once I listened to it more and more I
loved it. For me initially I thought the same thing, I
thought this is too repetative etc but I don't know now I
just think its up there with the greats like Aphex, Mu,
Wagon Christ etc etc, in fact I'm listening to 'Geogaddi'
right now. The music for me is very strong. Its the same
when I heard Aphex's SOWII (some 8 years back) I thought
whats this junk but you know I got it after a while.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-13 18:54 [#00480468]
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i loved boc right away, so maybe they're just not your
thing. it's all very moving to me, but that's subjective.
don't completely give up on them though, maybe set it aside
and pull it out on a super relaxed day some time from now.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-13 18:58 [#00480472]
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and though there aren't too many explicit changes throughout
their songs, you'd be suprised at how much is actually going
on throught a song that you don't hear until many listens.
they like to do stuff in the background, like play a melody
so far in the distance just one time, you think you might
not really have heard it. it's very subtle, but it's not
just gimickry, it's beautiful what they do.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 19:00 [#00480475]
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it's "chill out" music ;D


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-12-13 19:02 [#00480478]
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I got MHTRTC after I got Geogaddi, and I liked Geogaddi
better. Some tracks on MHTRTC do nothing for me, but I find
most to be achingly beautiful. I never really appreciated
Pete Standing Alone until now, and it's probably my
favorite track off of the album.



 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-12-13 19:32 [#00480496]
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Geogaddi is the better album imo... it's just better in
almost every way... a much fuller sound, better production,
sweet melodies, etc, etc...


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-12-13 19:37 [#00480498]
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I prefer geogaddi too...seems fuller in meaning and more
organized...


 

offline nacmat on 2002-12-13 19:54 [#00480499]
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I rather mhtrtc


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2002-12-13 20:36 [#00480511]
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mhtrtc is such a beautiful album, before yous lag it you
kind of have to understand that its beautiful mellow music
and not a statement of obscure technical expertise
you might want to look into checking out some of the
national film board of canada's old films in order to get a
better idea of the influence behind their music, and the
reason they chose the synths that they did, etc
beautiful tunes, one of the best albums I own
geogaddi is a different album, it has a different melodic
style to it, and sort of a different "purpose" it seems
I wouldnt compare the two albums, as both of them are
excellent


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2002-12-13 21:58 [#00480538]
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i love all of boards

its their subtlety that does it for me. everything is placed
just right


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2002-12-14 01:47 [#00480647]
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if you expected something like ae, then i understand you
dont like it that much.

im much mre of an ae fan, but the once-in-a-while dose of
boc is good. i see it as hippie-electronic music.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-12-14 03:11 [#00480681]
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Heh I had MHTRTC and Geo burned and wasn't impressed AT ALL,
and then one night I was walking home and smoked a few cones
at a bus stop and put it on during my walk (about 2am) and
it just clicked all of a sudden and I went "oh shit I GET IT
NOW" and I loved it since.
I dunno why, it just happened


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-14 03:21 [#00480685]
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BoC are fucken awesome...

oops my teef fell ouf..


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-14 06:44 [#00480760]
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I've just heard some of Geogaddi and I like it much
more-thanks.

I think I'll change MHTRTC for this album instead-seems much
more accomplished to me.

I *do* listen to MHTRTC while I surf the net, and it is
lovely backround music...but I don't think I have the
patience for most of the tracks. However, Geogaddi seemed to
hold my interest far better while I listened to it in the
shop.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-14 07:47 [#00480774]
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isn't mhtrtc the ultimate grower album?

i felt exactly the same way as you did, but i love it now.
never thought i would.

doesn't come near twoism, though.

flea, you should do a remix of a boc song someday, see how
you think they should sound ;)


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-12-14 07:48 [#00480775]
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it will grrow on you. i found all the songs too similarr to
starrt with but it soon wearrs off and you notice just how
grreat it is.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-12-14 07:50 [#00480776]
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btw i only read the first section of CS2x's post, then i
rreplied, now i have rread the otherr posts and it seems we
have all had similarr thoughts.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-14 07:58 [#00480781]
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early PoP stuff was my interpretation of what BoC could
sound like..if they didn't waste too much energy whacking
off to certain taboo pornocopia..the name Plaster of Paris
was a play on Boards of Canada..but down the line the whole
concept kinda deteriorated and the whole thing became yet
another...
fleas twildy carnage project:p


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-14 09:01 [#00480793]
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The more I listen to Geogaddi the more I think that BoC is
dead.


 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2002-12-14 09:57 [#00480808]
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I must say I'm finding it very hard to fault BOC. For me
there music is really everything I want from music pure
emotion and pure resonance. I think as my sister said it
'its pretty easy to get very indicated to them and play
their stuff to death'. I think that could be happening to me
now.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-14 09:57 [#00480809]
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the more comments i read by itchy 'breakcore, glitch,
drill'n'bass' teenagers, the more i think the future of
beautiful music is dead.


 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2002-12-14 10:05 [#00480812]
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Jeeze BOC's music is so intense especially 'Geogaddi', I
mean you could die to this music. Its perfect going out
music (not that I plan on making an exit).


 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2002-12-14 10:09 [#00480813]
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fleetmouse,

What do u mean BOC are dead? Do you think they can't surpase
'Geogaddi'? :-)


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-14 19:20 [#00481168]
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she called me a teenager..heh
I am old enough to fit two and a half teenagers in my life
span..and I like glitch drillbreakcore..
it's all beautiful music..just fragmented and borken to it's
micro molecular level..

a sampled 70's synth doesnt equate beauty, just
nostalgia...


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-12-14 20:02 [#00481202]
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BoC are truly gifted musicians. Their music makes me very
happy.

Just felt like adding that.....


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-15 05:19 [#00481377]
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ah yes i forgot about that... ofcourse the only difference
between PoP and BoC is that paris is a city and canada is
(indeed) a country. the whole thing goes awry right there ;)


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2002-12-15 11:42 [#00481521]
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I was, and still am disappointed with MHTRTC. It might be
because I bought Geogaddi before, and IABPOITC before that.

I read that Music Has the Right was more melodic, which I
was happy to know because Geogaddi was at times tuneless
i.e. nothing you could hum.

But when I got MHTRTC, I was completely repelled, it was so
dull..perhaps back in 98' it was the shit but I wasn't there
to hear it back then. However, I do like the beatless stuff
a hell of a lot....come to think of it more that the other
stuff. Olson, Bocuma and Open the Light were fantastic.

I simply have no love for popular stuff you guys
mention...well maybe a little...


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-12-15 11:47 [#00481525]
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aww yourr all grrown up. how old arre you 20?


 


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