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what program should i use to make some good drill'n'bass beats like square pusher-kid 606?i got acid+soundforge but i don't think i can use them for this. thank you |
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i think kid606 is mostly hardware |
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WHAT!?!!! acid is the best program ever for doing drill!! just turn up the bpm and cut up a break all mad style |
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get fruityloops dood, crank up the bpm though on some well placed dsp... |
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cut up the break? |
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Sometimes when I crank up the bpm on fruity it crashes {O_o} so crank it up gently lol. |
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do i have to sample some beats or no?how can i sample from cd? |
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thank you guys sorry but i'm new to this world---- |
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kid 606 hardware? |
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kid 606 uses a mac first of all ... |
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uhh mate maybe you should like learn some more stuff about this kind of thing before you start to make drill stuff maybe you should try somethig simpler before you try to be the next squarepusher |
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and so? tha mac are better? what if i use a pc? |
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what should i try?what is simpler?eiffel 65? |
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didn't mean to imply using a PC is bad, I have a PC myself .. just saying that if you'regoing for all-kid606 style then he uses a mac, simply informative, lol. sorry about that. you can work wonders on the PC as well. |
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ok ok thank you a lot of people tells me that mac is better....it's much more reliable and powerful an that almost every musicians use it......is it true? |
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the more chaotic 606 stuff is mostly done with hardware (gear), not software. macs do tend to be better for making music but the most important part of the process is the creative mind!!! :D ;) :p |
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man, i really dont think any particular software is gonna do it for you. you just need to find a program that allows you to do it, then practice. i can quickly program fast drill style beats in a tracker (), but it took me about 2 years to learn to trak. i switched to fruityloops () about 18mnths ago, and it pretty much set me back a while. but im starting to get the hang of it now. thing is, whatever program you use, you gotta be patient. if you cant get drill beats out in a few weeks....keep trying. it might take weeks,months or years to get your head around a program. the more you swap and change the longer its gonna take. [ +20rp3 ] |
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thank you.....yeah it's not so easy as it seems....it's an instruments....it's like guitar....you have to practice.....it has lot of possibilities but it's also not very implulsive like my stratocaster...... |
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Get Reason or Reason 2, hit "Randomize drum pattern" ! And there you go ! |
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he wants to program them im sure. [ +20rp3 ] |
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kid 606 made 'down with the scene' with reaktor i guess he uses it in most of his live sets as well |
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Good interview with Kid 606 in a fairly-recent AP. |
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u can be like me and sample someone drilling tires in at 76 gas ;D |
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You can do everything in Fruity Loops...and or Acid one of the most basic tricks would be to Create the beats..with a nice hiphop swing to um at 100bpm and once you have created several slightly variant versions of them..(change the placement of hits..make sure you have plenty of shuffling brassy hits (hihats, cymbals etc))..and once you are satisfied that you can groove to them at 100bpm..crank them upto 200... |
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plus you have soundforge..try the time stretching effects on it to create snare rushes etc..(not just snarerushes also try bass rushes hithat rushess etc as well)..also export a few of the loops you have created and then process them with effects like Flangers, Delay etc..in Sound Forge..just for a nice sense of variation... I think the most thrilling element of Drill'n'Bass is unpreditcability and certain randomness in the beats..so vary the placement of beats as often as possible..as soom as a rhythm becomes predictable..you are in Drum 'n 'Bass territory... |
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i couldn't describe it better. |
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"i can quickly program fast drill style beats in a tracker (madtracker), but it took me about 2 years to learn to trak. " what? it shouldnt take more then a weekend to get a hang of a tracker.. it took me a weekend to learn buzz when it came out and it had like almost no documentation back then. you are slow.. |
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I saw kid 606 dj'ing with two laptops and and a mixer. Dunno how he synchonized the shit but I'm quite sure he was running somme VST plug-ins he was tweaking real-time while looking very concentrated and absorbed by his work. My 2 euro-cents. |
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yeah, maybe. but how good are your tracking skills? |
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write your beats at 180+. sample them. the write the rest of the song in half tempo using the sampled beats. you then have nice contrast between your break neck beats and more realistically sped melodies and harmonies. |
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there's one thing i don't understand:if i make some good beats i have to program the pc ora do i have to improvvise them and rec them? let me explain:do i have to program the beats in a way like after i push the play button i just have to listen or i have to improvvise the beats and make the song?i hope you understand..... |
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errr. trackers are the best for drill. |
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thats an uneraseable fact |
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what the hell is a tracker?acid? |
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use a step sequencer. all the trackers and fruity loops and acid are step sequencers. you dont have to play those beats in real time. just plug the notes in where you want them. |
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I struggle to make really complicated beats like drill'n'bass. I find it impossible. I can make reasonable beats but doing anything like drill'n'bass I just haven't cracked it and plus to do anything like Squarepusher would take eons of time and patience. I've tried for years to do things like that but just don't know how its done. I think it helps to have musical knowledge, I have none and I think its a serious disadvantage. I'd basically need to watch someone doing some beats like that for say a day or so and see what tricks and programs they use, then I meant have a chance. There ought to be a course in drill'n'bass. Lol. |
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ehhehe sure but the thing i don't understand is when somebody like kid 606 plays live he improvises the songs? he has the sounds loaded in the opc and improvises? |
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most software that people use on a mac is also available for pc.... |
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"yeah, maybe. but how good are your tracking skills?" my tracking skillz are mad! :) |
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in your opinion of course |
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buy whatever makes you comfortable - if people could buy boxes or soft that made them sound like pusher, 606, or apfix twine they would sell like hot cakes get a trash can, rubber mallet, 4 track and a mic - make your OWN drill get it - your OWN copycats don't like water |
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yes. show me some of your 2 years worth of tracking skillz then please.. got some stuff on the net? |
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who me? - nothing on the net yet (that was a lame sentence) - ive retired to focus on djing at the moment (upon the completion of my third album) - but im so busy w/ college i cant do anything i inted on making what is in essence my "final track" (until i graduate) - expecting it to be 30+ mins in length w/ everything from slow hip hop to fast dnb w/ lots of unbearable noise a la mego people hot sluts w/ tits |
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found some links through your homepage. quite nice. not my style though.. the point is it doesent take a person two years just to learn tracking. |
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actually the message was aimed at hepburnenthorpe. but id love to hear your 30 min super track in the future :) |
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ill keep that in mind :) i answer questions that dont pertain to me when its early in the morning YAY |
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obviously some of us arent as skilled as you. big ups to you!!!!! big ups to you!!!!! big ups to you!!!!! |
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why is a tracker better than a sequencer for drill?..why is a tracker better than a sequencer for anything?...surely not ease of use..it's vertical structure..is just unnatural for music... |
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maybe i found a way to make some good beats....it's my way.....maybe i'm the only person that uses soundforge to make drill'n'bass.......i just take a pattern and destroy it then i copy the beats in the way i like......and with sounforge i can apply effects to the 2 channels separately....well i'm happy because maybe i found a way....... concrete drill'n'bass with guitar? |
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ever tried ? |
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