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offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-10 03:23 [#00476034]
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many artists have released live cd's in the last year,..
none of which have been very impressive as far as I'm
concerned, these include

Radiohead - I might be wrong
Nine Inch Nails - and all that could have been
Underworld - everything everything

now,. I've managed to grab quite a few live mp3's of these
particular artists in my time, and I think that I can safely
say that rather than encompasing the best feats of the band
can do as a live act, all of these releases are more of a
"best of" or "most popular" re-release of old songs,.. which
I think is a HUGE letdown top the sort of people that would
truly appreciate releases like this,
if anybody had heard some of the awesome stuff that
underworld can do live, they would be completely shattered
by the time "everything everything" was released,..
because as far as the talent of the band is concerned, this
displays NOTHING of what they are capable of, fans at the
rtsr.org forums were so disappointed that they made their
own version of "everything everything" called "bootleg
babies" which,. is far, far better, and encompases their
best work they have ever done,
the new nine inch nails live cd, whilst being awesome,. also
suffers from the same thing,. I have a few recorded sets
from the fragility tour, and I would have preferred them to
release a straight bootleg of one of the concerts as apposed
to the "best of, live" cd that they released, (respect to
NIN for including "still" with it though)
Radiohead's "I might be wrong" is a bit of an anomoly, the
fact that this cd actually had a nice DIFFERENT version of
spinning plates automatically improve the quality of this
release, and then by including the live only "true love
waits" it finishes on a high note,. the rest of the cd still
suffers from the other stereotypes, I also have plenty of
live material of theirs,. and I'd say that this cd is on the
mid/point of what they are capable of,..

however,... tool's "salival" is an example of a good live cd
release, they went through


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-10 03:25 [#00476037]
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however,... tool's "salival" is an example of a good live cd
release, they went through and looked for exactly what makes
their live act so enjoyable, and tried to encompass it onto
the cd.
the cd included studio versions of "live only" songs,.. and
the best versions of their other songs recorded off the
master and polished up, this was a cd for the fans, and lets
face it,. only fans are going to buy a bands live cd.

I think that my major argument is that ALL of these bands do
incredible work live, but don't display any of it on their
live cds,. which I think is what they are meant for.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-10 03:27 [#00476038]
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pff.. this is too much to read

i like everything everything by underworld btw
seeing them live would of course be the best


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-10 03:32 [#00476045]
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I like the cd too,. but I'll take ANY concert bootleg over
that cd anyway, I've never heard a single underworld concert
where they HAVEN'T played something that tops everything
else on their live cd,..

I'll find a link for you


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2002-12-10 03:35 [#00476049]
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yeah for real, im way too lazy to read that shit, but I get
the idea.


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-10 03:40 [#00476053]
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king of snake, a good live mix

dark train, with an improvised ending

bruce lee / moaner, with the best changeover ever


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-10 03:44 [#00476054]
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thanks..
i can't listen them right now (at work)
but i will as soon as i can


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-10 03:44 [#00476055]
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after listening to these tracks I'll think you'll agree that
underworlds "everything everything" was pretty lame as far
as their live act goes


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-12-10 05:06 [#00476119]
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Vsnares should release a live cd...his live stuff is fuckin
amazing.


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-10 15:35 [#00476840]
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daft punk's Alive 1999 is another good live cd


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-12-10 15:37 [#00476844]
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Smashing Pumpkins just release -Earphoria CD and Vieuphoria
DVD

it's live shit mixed with a story kinda thing. Just started
watching it, as I never saw the originals, and it's great :)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-10 15:39 [#00476853]
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i tend to only fuck with live shit if the songs sound
different. ex:
new arrangement
guest musicians
extended version
major error (this can be fun or funny)

the nin live album is too polished (dvd is much better) but
it DOES show lots of different arrangements. the radiohead
live ep is cool too for this reason. same w/ the 1998 eels
live album. i can't think of too many other good live cd's
though. usually these are just easy ways to turn a profit
while the artist kicks back or maybe begins to think about
his or her next album.


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-10 15:40 [#00476860]
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agreed,


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-10 15:42 [#00476864]
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underworld are awesome for that,.. some of their songs are
unrecognizable live (see the king of snake remix posted
above)


 

offline PigeonSt from Detroit on 2002-12-10 15:43 [#00476865]
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It's 1997, refund. Yeah that is a good cd though.

Another great live cd is Built to Spill - Live. Awesome live
band, much better than in the studio. Their live version of
Neil Young's Cortez the Killer is amazing.


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-10 15:49 [#00476875]
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*looks stupid
*fumbles cd

yep, 1997 alright


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-10 15:50 [#00476877]
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yeah! weird watching billy wreck his guitar and jimmy's drum
set :D the 'lost tape' tracks are awesome, too


 


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