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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-08 17:05 [#00473510]
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sorry but this is the only way I can describe this thing.. mindbogglingly stuning..any fans of Otto-Devine-VSNARES-etc..its a program you can download..with built in loops..you can change tempos,loops..parameters etc
just by dragging a mouse across...hours on non stop entertainment...
it's been created by the creators of REAKTOR
dwnload here
you can thank me later... fuck..thank me NOW!!
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-12-08 17:16 [#00473511]
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Holy shit, this is more than amazing...
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-12-08 17:20 [#00473516]
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You could record an hour of it and it could be the follow up to Gantz Graf.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-12-08 17:31 [#00473519]
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I had this for awhile, its fun to play with. Its by the guy who put the "Little One" Album on K2O out ! Get it ! Its coo' !
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-08 18:00 [#00473523]
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yep yep..luv it..interactive track..the future of electronic music has arrived...
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-08 18:12 [#00473534]
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first crazy ivan now this... thanks alot flea... keep em coming
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-08 18:15 [#00473539]
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mr tenzin gets the credit for Crazy Ivan.. but this one shucks..yeah..you are welcome:)
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-12-08 18:32 [#00473553]
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i dont understand how to use the program
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-12-08 18:42 [#00473566]
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for the love of god how do i change the samples?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-08 18:44 [#00473568]
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yo cant change the samples as such..except for dragging the mouse in the two windows..
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-08 18:46 [#00473570]
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lets all bear in mind that what ever comes out of that program .... is copyrighted
just a little reminder
I wish I could make an interactive track for one of my tracks
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-12-08 18:47 [#00473572]
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in it file folder there is the program and new.ens. maybe this ens file contains the intruments. does anyone know of software that can modify the file?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-08 18:47 [#00473573]
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Of course
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-12-08 18:54 [#00473578]
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reaktor makes the ens file or uses it, whatever im going to download reaktor so maybe i will be able to use this wonderful meawark with my own samples
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-08 20:36 [#00473690]
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Reaktor?..full version?..where from pray tell!!
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-08 21:16 [#00473742]
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i don't think that's its copyrighted.
copyright law does not apply to enteractive music.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-08 21:17 [#00473744]
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in fact i know it's not copyrighted... how can one copyright music that doesn't exist yet? it makes no sense. if lazyfish cared he wouldn't realease it to the public.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-08 22:24 [#00473858]
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Its simple really... the origional sounds were made by lazyfish right? and the origional track was copyrighted... the program was made by lazyfish.... so....
when you add two and two... you get
four right?
*hops in hot air balloon*
WOOOOSLE WOOOZIE WEEEEE!
*fly's away*
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-08 22:32 [#00473867]
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have fun in your ballon.!
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-08 22:36 [#00473875]
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*shouts from sky in ballon*
I will! And remember the intellectual property rights....
*turns more gas to ballon*
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-08 22:42 [#00473890]
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yes but how could it be proven?? It couldn't, theres no fucking way..
ps i believe lazyfish himself intended people to use it as they see fit..
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-08 23:08 [#00473921]
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Actually proving it would be no problem at all.... if you notice... though out the song there is a ambient drone throughout the whole track (making getting certain sounds to themselves, bass kicks, snares.. and whatnot impossible without some background drone)... and only certain drums sounds are being used... but whatever. I dont think its very cool to use other peoples samples and what not.
sure you THINK lazyfish meant for people to use it however they want....
the only person that knows for SURE would be lazyfish.
Either way it doesnt bother me.... because A) I am in a hot air balloon B) I dont dig sampling other people C) I dont care either way Yay!
*continues to float in hot air balloon*
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-08 23:10 [#00473924]
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are you a lawyer? or do you have a label?
personlly i think sampling is cool... look at planet mu... they don't give a fuck what they sample
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-08 23:11 [#00473926]
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ya but you would actually have to prove that to a jury beyond a reasonalbe doubt... i'm saying its not so clear cut..
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-08 23:15 [#00473929]
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"are you a lawyer? or do you have a label? "
Actually I took a lot of buisness classes and classes pertaining to copyright law in college and my dad deals with copyright problems all the time, being a photographer.
"ya but you would actually have to prove that to a jury beyond a reasonalbe doubt... i'm saying its not so clear cut.. "
who knows... I have seen stranger things happen in court
*flies away*
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-08 23:17 [#00473930]
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word
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-09 00:02 [#00473970]
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I dont know..I seem to be in agreement with Mickey but also..if you records sections from it.(there's no direct output function)..and..process and mutate them enough to render them unrecognizable (right now I agree with Mickey they are)
then I dont see a problem...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-09 00:06 [#00473976]
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well, I'm scared to try new things... but can you suggest a vegetarian snares album that most closely resembles 8000 bc or lipswitch?
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-09 00:07 [#00473977]
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sorry guys.. interactive songs are not protected by us copyright law. to convince me you'll have to pull something up.. i know that records are all registered in the libaray of congress
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-09 00:08 [#00473979]
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no they are complety different stlyes. vsnares is not glitch...
but anyways i'll go with ... fuck america
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-09 00:09 [#00473980]
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Songs about my Cats..and damnit wMw..d/l this program..it's awesome..I know you will dig it...:)
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-09 00:09 [#00473981]
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there's a ton of glitch on Cats actually..
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-09 00:09 [#00473983]
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I only trust the opinion of flea but thanks.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-09 00:11 [#00473986]
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it's a good good album..Carbon Dallos gave me my copy..is that enough recomendation?:)
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-09 00:11 [#00473987]
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do i appear untrust worthy? :(
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-09 00:13 [#00473993]
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nnah..just me and wMw have an incestuos relationship:)
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-09 00:18 [#00474006]
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It's just that from my experience, people recommend very different things based on their own personal reasons for liking music, and it's useless to go by anyone's recommendations unless you know a bit about their tastes. I'll try that cat album someday.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-09 00:19 [#00474008]
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ok i know that you don't trust me buts cats is vsnares most difficult albumn to get into ...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-09 00:23 [#00474013]
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that is exactly why I recommended it to wMw..Cfern..he is into difficult things and I know that:)
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-09 00:24 [#00474014]
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well rock on
this topic sure has diverted!
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-09 00:26 [#00474020]
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d/led the software yet wMw?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-09 00:28 [#00474023]
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How about you make a track with it sometime and upload it :)
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-09 00:34 [#00474034]
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it's not that kind of software..you interact and listen..it's an interactive track...
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-09 10:28 [#00474717]
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"sorry guys.. interactive songs are not protected by us copyright law. to convince me you'll have to pull something
up.. i know that records are all registered in the libaray of congress "
If not protected by copyright (of some kind) then its intellectual property of the maker. I think it would be easy to show a jury this. I say its CREATED by someone else, all sounds MADE by someone else.... moving around some tempo controls and tracks postitions doesnt change the fact that all sounds are comming from someone else who made everything. Unless you mash it up with some dsp or something... but whatever
I am going to drop lazyfish an email and see what he says about this. Curious to see what he says
SONGS ABOUT MY CATS! I think its exactly what w M w is looking for. Its bizzare and great!
w00t!
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-12-09 15:49 [#00475225]
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i dont give a fuck about copyrights, really. im making money, i just want to experiment. i did download a copy of reaktor, and i cant figure it out. what is this program for and how can i use it to modify the file that came wewark
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-09 15:55 [#00475238]
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There is a book on reaktor death-pengwin
its got pretty good reviews. If you looking on some info on reaktor you should check it out
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-12-09 15:59 [#00475246]
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i dont have the time to wait for a book. i want to know NOW!! what is reaktor for anyways? i fiddle around with everything i cant and i dont know what i am doing and nothing happens.
pants!
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-12-09 16:02 [#00475249]
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reacktor is your dream come true. In nutshell, it can anything possilbe in electronic music. I haven't even skimmed the possilbies and I already got so many sounds/song ideas
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-12-09 16:03 [#00475252]
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put i cant make it play anysound!!!!
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-09 16:07 [#00475256]
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"i dont have the time to wait for a book. i want to know NOW!! what is reaktor for anyways? i fiddle around with everything i cant and i dont know what i am doing and nothing happens. pants! "
hahaha, you got to aquire a knowlage of synthesis and sound programming. Its takes a while to figuere it out. You cant just learn reaktor in a day. I suggest the book. And reading all the info and turitals online you can find.
If it wasnt hard..... everyone would be using it
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