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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-02 08:51 [#00464606]
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does anyone know any good composers, of soundcollages, or ambient music.
But not like IDM.
I dont really know a difference... but I guess like, im talking about people more in the "avant garde" scene, ala john cage style. make sense?
thanks :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-12-02 08:51 [#00464607]
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Brian Eno, erm, that's all I know :(
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-02 08:53 [#00464609]
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Yeah, thats all i know too!
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J-HOK
on 2002-12-02 08:54 [#00464610]
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buy a copy of the OHM compilation, i think it was compiled by brian eno, and its 4 discs of electronic non dance music ranging from 1930's theramin up to 70's computer music
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-12-02 08:54 [#00464611]
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Tod Dockstader, Pierre Bastien, Gavin Bryars, Pierre Schaeffer...."musique concrete" stuff.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-02 08:55 [#00464613]
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acctually... i wonder what the difference is?
i guess its all marketing...
like, IDM is marketed more to the general public, and youth, and Eno, Cage kinda stuff, is more aimed at the "intellectuals" and the "sophisticated" coffee house types?
i could be way off. I dunno.
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domeister
from Chester (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 08:58 [#00464614]
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Check out Steve Reich-Electronic counterpoint for example. Fully orchestral but sounds electronic through excellent orchestration and repetition...
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Nathan Jones
on 2002-12-02 08:59 [#00464616]
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It's all for wankers who really can't figure things out for themselves.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 08:59 [#00464617]
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Null and Terminus maybe?
Have a look around *waits while the stupid fucking flash loads on relapse.com* http://www.releaseentertainment.com/
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-12-02 09:01 [#00464619]
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I dont know what IDM is. People told me it's the main 'label' that's put on all alternative electronic music.
People told me they liked my IDM-music. I was confused. I didn't know. I've discovered a problem with myself. I make IDM???
confusing...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-02 09:02 [#00464620]
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i have heard the OHM compilation... i downloaded the mp3s... but i didnt have the booklet, so i couldnt read about the artists...
but i was asking more about contemporary artists. But in the same genre as Cage and Eno.... make sense?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-02 10:42 [#00464743]
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guess not...
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-12-02 11:51 [#00464798]
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brian eno, and the silent hill sound track
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 12:14 [#00464834]
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john cage isn't really ambient but the most ambient thing of his i guess is i"in a landscape" piano pieces - idm is a silly titel so i don't know - eno is intelligently constructed electronic music that he called ambient because of his theories on it's use -
steve reivh and philip glass did some music you can sit down and relax to -
thomas koner is very good and so are the "ambient metal "band earth
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-02 12:15 [#00464836]
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experimental audio research
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 12:16 [#00464837]
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buy the bloody cd so you can read about the composers ! it's nothard to find - when you download soething like that you miss all the context and can't really discover anymore about it except by probing other people at websites like this! :)
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 12:20 [#00464846]
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and not finding much out!
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-02 12:24 [#00464853]
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so arre you all forr having abit of arrt in a CD case, rratherr than a slip of white paperr.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-12-02 12:29 [#00464860]
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Yeeessss reich Reich REICH !!! I dunno why but Philip Glass does absolutely nothing for me. But Reich is god. I may be seeing him in London on May. *crosses fingers*
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 12:45 [#00464879]
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i like to know about music rather than just own some sounds - cos humans who are interesting make them
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-02 12:48 [#00464885]
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i agrrree.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 12:51 [#00464891]
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it's also better to have something that someone has taken an awful amount of care and thoguth and time to put together create - manufacture distribute and promote rather than some mp3s tha someone has just ripped and shovewd on a site
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-02 12:54 [#00464892]
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one again i agrree. but alot of people seem to get on thierr high horrse when you say a bit of info orr arrt would be nice with it.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 13:19 [#00464943]
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yeah well - cd's are expensive - but it''s expensive to make them as well
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-02 13:23 [#00464948]
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these HUGE rrecorrd companys should not complain about the cost
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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-12-02 13:36 [#00464980]
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buy a Projekt compilation
i bought the christmas album last year
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 14:23 [#00465067]
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yeah but lets face it - planet mu has only got 2 people working for it and rephlex only three - warp hasnn't got many as well and they're all run by people who do it just cos they love music so in the case of independent labels they don't really mae alot of cash i think...
but when you can afford to give robby williams 80 million then things are a bit fucked up!
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 14:23 [#00465070]
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yeah but lets face it - planet mu has only got 2 people working for it and rephlex only three - warp hasnn't got many as well and they're all run by people who do it just cos they love music so in the case of independent labels they don't really mae alot of cash i think...
but when you can afford to give robby williams 80 million then things are a bit fucked up!
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-02 14:24 [#00465071]
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woops
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2002-12-02 14:27 [#00465077]
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indeed astrid. actually it should be said twice, at least.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-02 14:27 [#00465081]
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but it comes down to sales. if the arrtist does well they will brring in morre money to spend on CD inserrts.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-02 14:30 [#00465084]
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its not the B-all and end-all but it's nice. thats all i'm saying.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-02 17:01 [#00465294]
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Arne Nordheim
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hAnkyPhexTwin
from Tucson, Arizona (United States) on 2002-12-02 17:17 [#00465328]
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This might be something you'll need to search in their homepage but Hearts of Space - www.hos.com may have some.
Steve Roach and Hanyo Van Oostrum are pretty good.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-12-02 17:20 [#00465332]
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J-HOK: i got that! it's actually only 3 cds, i remember cause the three discs were 1.O 2.H 3.M
heh, i haven't listened to it in a while, but i really liked the theremin pieces
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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-12-02 17:31 [#00465342]
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um pink floyd?
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2002-12-02 17:34 [#00465345]
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"musique concrete" Cage brought that into the modern era didnt he? Check out the oldies like Satie.
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2002-12-02 17:35 [#00465347]
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pink floyd is mostely rock.
check out HAROLD BUDD he's a friend of brian eno's.
also: check out Norrsken. swedish mystical ambient. free downloadable mp3's etc.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-02 17:39 [#00465351]
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Coil is mostly ambient
get "is suicide a solution"
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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-12-07 13:19 [#00472393]
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20 min rock songs they're atmospheric there by ambient
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-07 13:43 [#00472418]
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Further to Null that Spikee mentioned here's a whole host of droning ambience created out of effects, feedback etc
ICE Final Main Lull Premature Ejaculations Lustmord (especially The Monsterous Soul)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-12-07 13:48 [#00472429]
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well, you could always check out the ambient charts at mp3.com
p.s. i'm so proud of myself for learning the html for links :D
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-07 13:53 [#00472434]
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isolationism
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