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I am talking about the Planet of The Apes Movie by Tim Burton..I chose not to see it til now because I beleive the whole Planet of The Apes franchise to be a reactionary white man's paranoid fever dream about the coloured people usurping their hold on the World..especially with Mr. NRA at the helm.. but on the other hand I have seen each and every thing Tim Burton has ever done..so I relented and agreed to borrow the VCD of it..and have been trying to watch this since yesterday..I have barely managed to get half way through it..I seem to need to stop the movie every 10 minutes or so..simply because it's so boring and bad..characters are poorly realized..they have ambigous motivations..and their actions are consistently inconsistent and incoherent...even the famed Production Design is mostly wasted because so much of the film was needlessly set and shot in the Dark.. feh.. what was Burton thinking! |
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wow.. I never thought of the movie in that way, but it certainly can come across as quite racist/paranoid I always just thought it was a cheesy 'B movie', and I don't care for Heston much either |
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I mean the original Planet of the Apes, never seen the Tim Burton film |
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dont bother..painfully dull..:( |
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flea, Whats this white man business? Your reading too much into it. God people seem to get away with blue murder. White man this white men that. Your being racist if you ask me. |
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You have to see Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. It makes explicit exactly the theme you're talking about. An intelligent ape from the future starts an ape revolution. I don't want to spoil it but there are religious and political overtones thick enough to cut with a knife. Check it out! O yeah, and everyone I know says the same thing about Tim Burton's ape movie: a stylish mess of shit. Hence, I avoid it! |
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As Charlton Heston said in rehearsals, "GET YOUR HANDS OFF ME YOU DAMN DIRTY NIG... uh... APE!" |
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whoah..something very peculiar..I just saw the scen where they reach Kalima..which is like a sacred ruin..and the ruins kinda look identical to the twin towers wreckage they keep showing with a few bent frames still standing.. very creepy.. |
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wow..for real?? |
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Uhm.... no. :-) |
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I mean, no about the Heston thing. You should still see Conquest because it elaborates on the whole race deal with the apes. |
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Charlton Heston is a biggot. Did you see him in Bowling for columbine? He was like "This country was founded by a group of ol white men....." "Well I think the reason we have so many problems with guns are americas... erm... diversity.... ethnicity..." That movie showed what a total idiot the man was.... scary to see really This movie being made when it was made, I wouldnt be surprised if the screen writer was somewhat racist. |
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hehe..I thought Heston was bit too cunning for that.. but gimme the gist of it..I am not likely to willingly watch Conquest of Plantet of the Apes.. |
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"This movie being made when it was made, I wouldnt be surprised if the screen writer was somewhat racist. " planet of the apes that is... |
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the origional |
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IT'S A MADHOUSE!!! A MADHOUSE!!! :( |
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yeah I got that..I really do wanna watch Bowling for Columbine but we are likely to have to wait for a Film Fest next year to see it...:( I am a bit of a Mike Moore Nut:) |
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Damn yous... Damn yous all to hell!... |
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One of the main themes of Planet of the Apes is racism though, that's the whole point of it; it's meant to get you thinking about race & how we treat those different from ourselves... I don't think it's a racist movie in itself, that's kinda missing the point... |
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You damn dirty ape! |
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It was earth all along! You finally made a monkey, yes you finally made a monkey, yes you finally made a monkey out of meeeeeeeeee! |
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I think you are talking about Piere Boulle's novel..which was meant to be a satire..but the execution of the film..the way you are supposed to root for Heston's characterand his heroic antics..is actually the movie missing the whole point of the novel.. |
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