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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-29 21:19 [#00461783]
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I'm fairly jaded and I found the last 15-20 minutes difficult viewing indeed. Watched it with a friend who's going tthrough a rough patch... he would have been more into a feelgood movie.
When I saw the name Hubert Selby Jr. in the credits I thought, uh oh. This was the director's cut which I can only imagine was heavier than the original release.
Yikes!
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-29 21:25 [#00461785]
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is this a horror movie or what?
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Clic
on 2002-11-29 21:28 [#00461787]
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Not really, actually. Just imagine seeing that rougher parts for a little bit longer. I was surprised they called the director's cut a 'cut'. They just kind of shortened the length of certain scenes.
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Clic
on 2002-11-29 21:30 [#00461788]
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In the edited version that is.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-29 21:30 [#00461789]
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what is it about?
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Clic
on 2002-11-29 21:30 [#00461791]
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Cows.
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Clic
on 2002-11-29 21:34 [#00461793]
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Excuse me, I am dumb. I had that whole thing backwards. I thought you saw the 'edited version', not the director's cut. That post really makes no sense now. : \
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-29 21:53 [#00461798]
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At the end when they're cutting back and forth between Ellen Burstyn, Jennifer Connoly, *mumble* and *mumble*, man I was feeling horrified and nauseous.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-01 13:06 [#00463271]
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POWERFUL movie even if you have no real concept of what addiction (esp drug) is all about.
i can imagine tho, if i knew someone like this i would find it hard to watch this movie for entertainment (or enlightenment) value!
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-01 13:10 [#00463274]
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Yeah, one of the few movies that really make you feel miserable afterwards.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-01 13:11 [#00463276]
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when i'm low, happy films make me worrse.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-01 13:17 [#00463288]
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My grandmother was a bit like the Ellen Burstyn character - too much television and too many pills. She never went psycho though she did get a tad weird at times.
I loved Burstyn's scene with her son at the kitchen table when she was telling him how the promise of being on TV gave her a reason to get up in the morning. It was so poignant, like something from a Tennessee Williams play...
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2002-12-01 13:18 [#00463289]
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saw it one time, it`s my favourite movie !
and i hope i never have to watch it again :)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-01 13:24 [#00463296]
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There was a British film about nuclear war called Threads. It was so fucking horrific I felt physically ill and deeply depressed for a day or two after seeing it.
Why do I like doing that to myself? #->
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-01 13:25 [#00463299]
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OMG ellen was AMAZING.....what an amazing actress. didn't she win the best supporting oscar for that role? if not she was ROBBED.
it's strange to think of it as entertainment....i mean it is a movie so it is strickly based on that definition. but i would not call it entertainment. more of a learning experience. you LEARN what not to get into....ehehhehe
(i own the dvd....but i have yet to watch it again....have to be in the right mood)
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-01 13:26 [#00463303]
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that was scarry
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-01 13:27 [#00463304]
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oh god I love the same exact scene.. the dialogue is beautiful.. when she's saying how lonely she really is.. heartbreaking..
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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-12-01 13:29 [#00463307]
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i just took that movie to a party last night and introduced it to many a new people,...they were in shock but still seemed it like it.
everytime i watch it, it seems more and more dramatic.
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-01 13:31 [#00463312]
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Why do people like to watch these movies anyway. It's about time we get some psychologist on this board....
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-01 13:32 [#00463314]
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There should be a big red button at the top right corner of each screen that says "get professional help NOW!"...
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-01 13:34 [#00463315]
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And PLEASE, let me be the first one to push that button ;-)
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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-12-01 13:36 [#00463320]
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hehe..true that.
but, it makes me feel good about myself,..i don't have any bad addictions...just this damn messageboard!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-01 13:36 [#00463321]
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And when you push it it dials the Join Us In Creating Excellence hotline!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-01 13:36 [#00463322]
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no she didn't. Julia Roberts won for Erin Brokovich.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-01 13:36 [#00463324]
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because a film about all nice and well-adjusted people would be pretty boring.
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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-12-01 13:38 [#00463325]
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Juice by tappy!
hehe i made a label for it in art last week
we're doing pop art =]
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-01 13:42 [#00463330]
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ahhhh i shoulda known YOU'd KNOW.....tee hee
i think we watch these movies to see how others go about living.....to see a slice outta someone's life. i think while a lot would say they could care less.....most people are curious about other people and their lives. we're NOSEY.....ahhahaha
it's a great learning experience for me, as i said this particular movie is not in the entertainment realm for me.....no way. great film however!
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-01 13:43 [#00463332]
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I saw this movie finially. IMO it was such an awful movie. They wanted to make a trainspotting movie..... but ended up making it more grotesqe and violent, minus the dark humor and direction.
I just didnt dig it at all. If I want to see drug addiction I can go to downtown hollywood after 9:00 pm and see it first hand.
Movies to me are for hope, for a laugh, to scare you, to make you cry......
I dont like the movies that just are dark and explicet just for an excuse to be sick and violent.... and you end up leaving the theater feeling like you want to vomit or die....
Its ok I think to make a movie like that as long as you throw in some humor... something....
hard to explain ... like a reprieve .. a break
just my opinion of course... I just didnt dig this one
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-01 13:44 [#00463335]
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I think we watch movies to watch movies. a visual and audial spectacle that encapsulates fantasy and (hopefully) interesting ideas and notions.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-01 13:45 [#00463337]
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Does the DVD have commentary? That would just kill it for me. "Blah blah blah, and then the cameraman farted this particularly juicy fart and we all laughed...."
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-01 13:47 [#00463344]
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mm.. I reacted very badly to the film.. I was kind of in a bad patch in my life when I saw it at a big international film festival we have here each year.. I was right in the middel of a HUGE cinema with an ENORMOUS screen..
I almost fainted during the last 10 minute sequence. I couldn't take it.
that said, I do think its a good film. just because it made me feel shit, doesn't make the film bad.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-01 13:49 [#00463353]
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Yep. If I'd been alone and a little drunker I'd have been sobbing.
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-01 13:49 [#00463355]
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It's an Aronowski movie, so IF the DVD has some commentary, you'll get a VERY, VERY long list of friends, colleagues, neighbours, etc. that played in the movie. Damn, he even 'recycled' the main character of PI...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-01 13:51 [#00463364]
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I'm not exaggerating.. I actually had to put my head between my legs or I'd gone down.. I was all white and shaking when I left the theatre..
did I mention I went to see it on my own without ANY notion what it was about?
just went because of Aronofsky and Pi..
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-01 13:57 [#00463372]
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did I mention I went to see it on my own without ANY notion
what it was about?
just went because of Aronofsky and Pi..
Hehehe, me too. I was expecting something wacky and a little disturbing, not the worst emotional bludgeoning since I broke up with my first longterm girlfriend.
Another movie that I found as deeply afffecting but not nearly as depressing was Crumb by that Zwigoff guy, the one who later did the so-so Ghost World. It was also one of those "stagger blindly from the cinema" movies but the emotions were more like 50% inspiration, 25% depression and 25% compassion.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-01 14:01 [#00463379]
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mousey.......
you have to SEE the DVD......the chapter selections, etc are like adverts from infomercials.....it's priceless.
and yes they have the commentary with aronofsky......that might be interesting......but i have not watched it with that yet. =0)
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-01 14:03 [#00463385]
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Yeah qrter movies are to be entertained.... and expose yourself to new views on things... to take you to another place...
but I just didnt dig this one. I thought PI was great and think he is a great director... but this one left me with a bad taste in my mouth... I saw it twice and the second time I liked it even less...
its wierd cause some friends of mine think it is the best movie ever made, and say great things about it
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-01 14:05 [#00463386]
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I havent seen the dvd.. I will definatly check it out. Thanks LeCoeur
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-01 14:05 [#00463387]
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Your friends are right. You are not. Dot.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-01 14:08 [#00463394]
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hehehhe.......they were really clever with the DVD....you should check it out. and i'm sure hearing from the author will help you appreciate this movie on a different level perhaps.
it's a good movie.....harsh reality....and not something i can watch unless in the proper mood.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-01 14:14 [#00463398]
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Opinions are like nipples Polynomial - C, everyone has one
*smashes pie on Polynomial-C's head*
WeeeeeeeeEEEE!
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-01 14:16 [#00463401]
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mmm...tastes good....
what is it?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-01 14:27 [#00463422]
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um.. LeCoeur, so this is the avatar that Bile made for you..?
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-01 14:32 [#00463438]
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Its apple! I love apple pie, polynomial -c I like your avatar.. is that you? it kinda looks like nic endo from atr
Was this movie ever available to see in regular theaters?
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-01 14:34 [#00463439]
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it tis indeedy......just check the december avatar thread.
my picture with special FX's =0)
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-01 14:35 [#00463440]
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The ugly dude in the avatar is Satyr Wongraven from the Norwegian black metal band Satyricon.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-01 14:36 [#00463442]
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mickey.....it was shown in the theatres.....and it was very popular. i wish i'd seen it that way first, but i saw it at a friends house on dvd first.
btw......everyone is entitled to their own opinion as long as it agree's with MINE.....buahahhahahahha!!!
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-01 14:36 [#00463443]
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It's copied off the Intermezzo II front cover
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-01 14:38 [#00463446]
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he looks like the dood in the new star trek movie nemesis......bald dudes can sometimes look interesting (maynard for example) =0)
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-01 14:39 [#00463452]
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Yeah, but this particular dood has got a pentagram painted onto his head...... sick, isn't it?
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