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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-11-27 04:53 [#00458025]
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many copywright anal people don't realise this, but by buying cd's second hand, it is just as bad as downloading mp3's, because no extra money goes to the artists just the seller
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-27 04:56 [#00458033]
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Yeah but money already has been given to the artists....think about it!
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-11-27 05:05 [#00458047]
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yes, but when the second person buys it second hand, no more money has been passed along the line, if it changes hands 3 times it has still only been bought once, which makes it just as bad as ripping a copy and giving it to 2 of your friends
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-11-27 05:08 [#00458051]
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...but the artist/label doesn't own the specific copy.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-11-27 05:10 [#00458054]
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ok,. so basically your ripping them off, but not breaching copywright?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-11-27 05:11 [#00458056]
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no -- you're not ripping them off :)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-11-27 05:12 [#00458057]
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Well, it just highlights the ludicrous nature of copywrite and the commodification of art.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-11-27 05:13 [#00458058]
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but by buying it second hand instead of new,. they miss out on a sale, right?
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diablo
on 2002-11-27 05:30 [#00458072]
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Once you have bought a CD, it's yours to sell if you want.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-27 05:34 [#00458078]
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Yes, despite what copyright stuff says on Videos etc. you are legally allowed to sell them on.
Rather than saying buying second hand is bad, I think this thread points out that there is nothing really wrong with owning MP3s so long as you weren't going to buy it brand new anyway...
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-11-27 05:37 [#00458082]
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I'm just saying that the artists get no more money if it is bought second hand
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-11-27 05:41 [#00458088]
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Good
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-27 05:42 [#00458090]
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You right, the only way they could be considered to be getting money from second hand sales (and this is tenuous at best) is that people may be more inclined to buy something new in the first place if they know they can sell it second hand either: a) if they don't like it or, b) at an increased price in a few years time.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-27 05:50 [#00458098]
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You're a bitter man aren't you? ;)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-11-27 05:55 [#00458103]
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I just hate the artists who guard their 'property'. Like they don't get for free.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-27 10:47 [#00458419]
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well, I buy used cds all the time as well as many new ones, heres how I think of it. I buy mostly used cds from bands\artists who have already broken up or stopped making music therefore you dont really need to support them anymore, also buying used is just like you were the person to pay the band since the other person got rid of it so now its you who gave the band money although it might be at a different price.
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