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offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-21 01:06 [#00450101]
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Microsoft can ban you XBOX!


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-21 02:14 [#00450114]
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people...this is pretty important information for XBOX
owners....


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-11-21 02:19 [#00450115]
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Damn, if I was to get a XBOX, I would of got it Modded up on
the same day!

:-/

Microsoft still up to there evil ways!



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-11-21 02:38 [#00450123]
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Modding a machine to play illegal games is, well... illegal.
It's not evil for Microsoft to do that, it's perfectly
understandable. They don't want cheap asses playing games
online they didn't pay for. You fuck MS over, they fuck you
over, only fair.

That said... I hope somebody finds a way around this and
beats the big corp. I'm a dirty software pirate myself!
Arrrr, matey!


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-11-21 02:40 [#00450124]
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and we'll sail the seven seas Ophecks.

Those Microsoft guys are just big bullies!! :P


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-21 02:44 [#00450125]
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You and your GBA roms ophie ;)

What's bad about it is you might buy a second hand Xbox
sans modchip and then find it is banned once you try
to connect. It's a bit unfair of them to do it as some
people do genuinely just use modchips in order to write
their own games. The team that made Raiden for the Xbox did
this...


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2002-11-21 02:46 [#00450127]
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I don't know about over in canada or australia but over here
in Britain the X-box is dying on its ass. I think Billy boy
is regretting dipping his toe into the console market.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-21 04:37 [#00450178]
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I don't think this is such a bad thing really...cheating is
the bane of online gaming; Quake was pretty much ruined by
people with all the bots & cheats...MS are after providing a
quality online experience; that means ensuring no
cheats...so all this seems fair enough to me & a pretty cool
design decision...

Ceris right about the 2nd hand market tho...but personally I
think that's a small price to pay for the level playing
field this provides...

There's been an interesting response to this over at
Slashdot (generally the most rabid anti-MS group
outthere..)...the vasy majoirty are applauding this as a
great idea...

The reaction to Xbox Live in general is pretty damn
positive...everyone I've spoken to is chuffed to bits with
it...it's Broadband only & that's another help in ensuring
everyone gets a decent experience out of the system...

Looking forward to Xmas!!...the other half is still wavering
a little about us getting one but I reckon I can switch on
the old jand charm..:)...


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-21 04:38 [#00450180]
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oh...and switchable mod chips are on the radar...so you can
have the best of both worlds; just switch it off when using
Live...



 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-21 04:47 [#00450185]
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why buy a console made by microsoft??
its so insane...i mean if the games were all right, it 'd be
ok, but it seems thats not the case at all...
gamecube ps2 gamecube ps2 gamecube
ps2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-21 04:53 [#00450188]
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still early days tho, glass...PS2 has got over a years lead
on Xbox so it's bound to have more games...

On a technical level, the Xbox is more capable than a
PS2...hopefully in 2003, we'll see more of what it's capable
of...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-21 04:54 [#00450190]
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But imagine coming in mashed and forgetting to flip the
switch? One mistake and your Xbox is blacklisted...

Good point about the cheating though. I used to love
counterstrike online even though I wasn't that good at it,
but cheats completely ruined it... Even things like
punkbuster didn't get rid of it totally, something like the
Xbox but with a Keyboard and mouse (DC anyone? ;) ) would be
the ideal platform for cheat free deathmatch. My house got
so fed up of cheats online we prefered to play 2 player
teams (4 player total) of DM games because we knew it was
going to be a fair game.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-21 05:09 [#00450206]
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you can't switch it off...the mod is registrered to your
XBOX-serial number


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-21 05:11 [#00450210]
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or maybe you can....well...uhm...i dont know...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-21 05:17 [#00450215]
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There are new mod chips coming out that will have a "bypass"
switch. Before going online you'll click this and it will
have no way of telling it has been modded. No doubt Mr
Gates' crew will put something on all new xboxes after this
that will save a hidden file to the harddisk of the xbox
whilst the mod chip is used thereby showing if a modchip
(switchable or not) has ever been used. Then the hackers
will find a way around this and so on.

When will companies learn it's only profitable to software
audit large corporations? In other instances anti-piracy
devices cost more to develop than they save. It smacks of
merely doing it to spite users. If they want to, fine, but
it ultimately costs them more than if they just accepted
that there will always be some degree of piracy...


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-11-21 05:18 [#00450216]
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m u s i c b o a r d, u fucking fool.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-21 05:22 [#00450219]
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who are u talking too?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-21 05:23 [#00450220]
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Yes and originally an AT messagedboard. And for the topic of
all things AT related...

AT likes videogames. He samples them in his tracks... About
70% of people here seem to like games. Deal with it.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-21 05:24 [#00450221]
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yeah, that could be a problem...we'll have to wait and see
what the mod people come up with...I doubt they'll let us
down...

MS are really pushing Xbox as a console for people beyond
just the hardcore gamer crew...your average man in the
street knows bugger all about cheats etc & simply wants a
decent & fair online experience...you gotta hand it to MS
for taking a stance on this....

Plus it's not just cheats this combats...I should imagine it
wouldn't be too hard to hack the network & DOS a load of
people if this sort of policing wasn't in effect...

That slashdot thread makes real interesting reading...
Slashdot thread at Level 3 to save your reading eyes ... if you wanna hear more about the pros &
cons of this...


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-21 05:25 [#00450222]
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jand in 2003....
yes but in 2004 will be the ps3 out
hehe!
im just real sad sega isnt in the machine buisness
anymore...
they were the kings


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-21 05:41 [#00450241]
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Sega still make amazing software. I can't wait for GC &
arcade F-zero (Sega are working on those). Also a Rez arcade
machine if that's still in the works...


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-11-21 06:18 [#00450260]
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xbox sucks anyway


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-21 06:25 [#00450265]
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i just bought pikmin for gamecube !!!
what a sweet game, i love how they reproduced the nature in
that one!
:)


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-11-21 12:12 [#00450666]
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After a really shitty start, Xbox is finally starting to
catch up to it's competitors in terms of quality games :
Splinter Cell is one of the best games I've ever played.
The gameplay is innovative and challenging and the graphics
are some of the best I've ever seen. It's not just me
either -- It hasn't received anything less than a 90 from
any publication that's reviewed it. The official Xbox
magazine gave it a 9.6(Halo scored a 9.5). Hell, the only
blow against the game is that the development team
responsible for it is Canadian.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-11-21 12:18 [#00450670]
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Pikmin is probably my favorite of all time. I've never had
more fun playing a videogame my whole life.. There's so
much vibrancy and character in everything. I almost cried
the first time I tried to take my reds through the water.


 


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