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Im listen to Steve Reich's Piano Phase and Im just curious on how it works. Maybe someone here knows the technical side to it...zeus maybe you can help. i heard both pianists play a piano loop and then one guy speeds up. does the same guy doing the speeding up every interval or whatever or do they take turns speeding up so as to phase over ... if that made sense... |
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also, at the point of speeding up (if speeding up is correct) how do they know what bpm to achieve? you're playing the piano and all of a sudden you want to escape the other persons loop. how do you know when you have gotten into your own loop? |
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lots and lots of practice? maybe i should hear the piece, i really need to hear more Steve Reich. |
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havnt heard the peice if you could tell me where to get it (dont have slsk) ill see what i can make of it |
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hmm an accelerando, i reckon? |
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i heard he uses two taped loops.. he'll play one loop at one speed, and the other loop at a slightly different speed.. they start off synced up and gradually get more and more out of sync im not sure if thats what he did on the piece youre talking about...but he did this with his vocal pieces 'its gonna rain' and 'come out and show them' brian eno was inspired by this technique.. and has done similar things ..he credits reich's experiments like this as the first attempts at generative music |
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oh..i should say that the two tape loops are two copies of the same thing |
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yes, the 2 players are just speeding up and slowing down but its fucking amazing. its like, a digital delay, but done with 2 piano players! im impressed. its gotta take so much skill to do this! |
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well, then if its tape... then im at little less impressed. although it was done back in the day, so it was probably much more break through back then |
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ah here ya go: "Reich's first attempt to apply the phasing process within an instrumental context was Piano Phase (1967). Here a twelve note even semiquaver melody consisting of five different modal pitches is set up in unison with itself on two pianos. The lead player gradually speeds up until he has moved one sixteenth ahead. The dotted lines in the score indicate the movement of the second pianist and the consequent shift of phase relation between himself and the first pianist." from |
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if you want a comparison between the phasing used by steve reich and the phasing used by RDJ on saw2, |
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My music theory teacher did a performance with a fellow music instructor at my school. They both arranged a piece. I looked at it and the time signatures were pretty nuts. And so it starts off that they both play the piece for about half a min.. the melody and chords vary a little making these nice harmonies. Then when the screwy key sig's start.. they are one is a half a measure apart... then one is a whole bar late... then like seven bars back.. then they other person catches up agian. Its extremely hard to play, because once you mess up... its damn near impossible to find your place agian.... |
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i had to perform clapping music with a group, even that was tough! |
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I have some notes of his about phasing in the mini-book that came with Works. I'll have a look later.. |
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