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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 12:51 [#00441910]
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excerpts from the audio tape, or atleast what cnn.com released:
"The road to safety begins by ending the aggression. Reciprocal treatment is part of justice. The incidents that have taken place since the raids of New York and Washington until now - like the killing of Germans in Tunisia and the French in Karachi, the bombing of the giant French tanker in Yemen, the killing of Marines in Failaka and the British and Australians in the Bali explosions, the recent operation in Moscow, and some sporadic operations here and there - are only reactions and reciprocal actions. These actions were carried out by the zealous sons of Islam in defense of their religion and in response to the order of their God and prophet. ... What Bush, the pharaoh of this age, was doing in terms of killing our sons in Iraq, and what Israel, the United States' ally, was doing in terms of bombing houses that shelter old people, women and children with U.S.-made aircraft in Palestine were sufficient to prompt the sane among your rulers to distance themselves from this criminal gang.
Our kinfolk in Palestine have been slain and severely tortured for nearly a century. If we defend our people in Palestine, the world becomes agitated and allies itself against Muslims, unjustly and falsely, under the pretense of fighting terrorism. What do your governments want by allying themselves with the criminal gang in the White House against Muslims? Do your governments not know that the White House gangsters are the biggest butchers of this age? Rumsfeld, the butcher of Vietnam, killed more than 2 million people, not to mention those he wounded. Cheney and Powell killed and destroyed in Baghdad more than Hulegu of the Mongols. What do your governments want from their alliance with America in attacking us in Afghanistan? I mention in particular Britain, France, Italy, Canada, Germany and Australia.
We warned Australia before not to join in the war in Afghanistan, and against its despicable effort to separate East Timor. It ignored the warning until i
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 12:51 [#00441911]
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it woke up to the sounds of explosions in Bali.
If you were distressed by the deaths of your men and the men of your allies in Tunisia, Karachi, Failaka, Bali and Amman, remember our children who are killed in Palestine and Iraq everyday.
If you were distressed by the killing of your nationals in Moscow, remember ours in Chechnya. Why should fear, killing, destruction, displacement, orphaning and widowing continue to be our lot, while security, stability and happiness be your lot? This is unfair. It is time we get even. You will be killed just as you kill, and will be bombed just as you bomb. And expect more that will further distress you.
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 12:52 [#00441912]
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"
this is what you idiot capitalists get for sucking so much ass.
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-11-14 12:55 [#00441916]
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huh
that really makes me think
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 12:58 [#00441918]
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as well it should
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-11-14 13:03 [#00441927]
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You know usually when I reply to topics about policits and global events happening... i like to discuss it in an intellegent manner.......
in an un biased way....
but
"this is what you idiot capitalists get for sucking so much
ass"
is not an intellegent statement in any way shape or form.... and its just meant for instigating and proding arguments...
Personally I have never seen something said on a message board as stupid and arrogant as your little comment right there.
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:04 [#00441930]
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yeah
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-11-14 13:06 [#00441935]
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i'm trying to be as ignorant as possible but i t just is not possible :(
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:10 [#00441942]
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that comment (referring to the comment i had made) was unintellegant and irrelavent, and therefore if the unintellegant and irrelavent people saw it, they would then read the entire excerpt.
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:10 [#00441945]
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by the way, i was told to post this.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-11-14 13:10 [#00441946]
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Not that I support Bush and his war on terror.......
BUT
WAR IS WRONG, war should never be an option
KILLING PEOPLE is wrong
Bush and Osama are doig both of those things....
they are BOTH guilty in my book
what justifies flying a plane into a building and killing so many people....... NOTHING. I am sure that if Osama has millions of reasons to have hatred agianst america. But he could have became a leader in some arab nation.... easily with his eduaction and family money. He could have made a difference WITHOUT VIOLENCE. Instead he became a bully and lazy.
I am not saying that what the president(s) have done inthe past is right... but at least the president is TRYING not to blatantly go out and kill people. At least he TRIES to talk to the UN and work things out. If I am not mistaken... we are not in war now....
I keep being optimistic about this....
but violence is never a solution to ANYTHING
period
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:11 [#00441947]
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told by who?
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:12 [#00441949]
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yes its definatly wrong, this is probably osama bin laden propaganda. look at him bringing up powell, and ect, he's trying to martyr out.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2002-11-14 13:13 [#00441952]
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oh its harsh its like that
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:14 [#00441953]
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mickey mouse would understand the comment, because he is smart.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-11-14 13:14 [#00441954]
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Thats exactly what I thought when I first head of this tape.......
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:16 [#00441959]
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yep.
(can't believe i have to dig to get some intellegant conversations on a thread)
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-11-14 13:16 [#00441960]
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its been done before..... but I am sure there are millions of people in arab contries that will side with this.... and piss a lot of people off
IMO, america should just back off....
and never touch any of these arab nations agian...
but then agian.. that will never happen... its all about money... and who controls the oil
it always has been
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:17 [#00441962]
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yep
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-11-14 13:18 [#00441965]
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There are lots of intellengent threads and people on this message board....
its just not often that they speak up
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:18 [#00441966]
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(be as irrelavent as possible for your next comment, but make it suspicious or stupid so more people would read, so there would actually be an intellegant discussion)
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:19 [#00441967]
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i want to sample from the osama bin laden tape! that will be so cool!
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:23 [#00441969]
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mickey? are you still among the living?
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-11-14 13:23 [#00441970]
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No, I got a better one....
something that will get people posting...
George Bush is totally right! I think america is the most honest country in the worlds existance. I love the fact that he is giving us so many tax cuts and speading the good word and keeping the good ol boy america past time safe. I love Enron!
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:23 [#00441972]
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there we go :D
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:24 [#00441976]
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or "Bush is a great president!"
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:24 [#00441977]
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BUSH IS THE BEST PRESIDENT IN THE WORLD! BUSH 4 EVER!
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:26 [#00441982]
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its not working, i bet you any money none of the next posts will be intellegant at all!
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-14 13:28 [#00441985]
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propaganda
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:29 [#00441990]
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(YES THANK YOU GOD)
is that as intellegant the comments will GET?
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:33 [#00442003]
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guess so
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patrik
from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-14 13:34 [#00442010]
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Dubya has an IQ of 91 and a face like an arse.
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:35 [#00442016]
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yeah, that's gonna change some minds here...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-14 13:40 [#00442033]
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"is that as intellegant the comments will GET?"
priceless
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:42 [#00442040]
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yep ;D
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:44 [#00442047]
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onto more intellegant things, bush must win 2004's vote!
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-14 13:46 [#00442057]
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Miki:
i don't see how blatant killing is worse than discreet killing?
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:48 [#00442063]
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(thank you)
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-14 13:52 [#00442077]
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ExHore: "the reason no one cares is because its all propaganda"
your own words.
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:54 [#00442088]
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thank you, my goal has been accomplished, you can now close the thread, mods
(thanx :D man!)
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-14 13:56 [#00442094]
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recommended reading:
The Gulf War did not take place - by Jean Baudrillard
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:56 [#00442095]
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its a shame those weren't the exact words...
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 14:04 [#00442114]
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korben, have you read any books by Robert Anton Wilson?
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steve
from chicago on 2002-11-14 14:13 [#00442134]
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Another wannabe anti-capitalist using his COMPUTER to post on a website that is dedicated to a musician who SELLS his music.
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 14:14 [#00442138]
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yáy!
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 14:15 [#00442142]
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obKsEcISurYity
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-14 14:16 [#00442143]
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shhhhhhh you'll expose them for the hypocrites they really are! (kind of like Michael Moore. I mean he does get paid for these movies, no?)
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-11-14 14:17 [#00442146]
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Al Qaeda is hiring, you know.
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-11-14 14:17 [#00442148]
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how am i a hipocrite when i'm being hipocritical to my hipocriticality?
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-11-14 14:18 [#00442149]
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"i don't see how blatant killing is worse than discreet killing? "
if you read my post more carefully you would see that I didnt say blantant killing was any better then discreet killing. Dont put words in my mouth.....
"WAR IS WRONG, war should never be an option
KILLING PEOPLE is wrong
Bush and Osama are doig both of those things....
they are BOTH guilty in my book " - mickey
But I think their is a big difference between deliberate killing and discreet killing. OK. For one thing.... as stupid and horrible as Bush is.... he is not deliberatly trying to go out and kill people... he wants controll of the oil in Iraq basically.... or a portion of it.... there is a big difference between trying to get a person out of power.... protecting people from cultural cleansing, drug running, and accidently dropping bombs where civilians are..... (which is really awful and bad, and there should be no excuse... but american intellegence is not as great as it claims to be..). Bush has his agendas... but they dont have to anything to do with puposfully killing people with the exception of 2 - osama and sudam. So that is a big difference, both people are horrible.... you have bush that just wants oil,drugs,money, and then you have osama... who wants mass death and suffering, and sadam who wants cultural cleansing....
And I think that is the the difference.. IMO
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