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offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:30 [#00441995]
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give yourself time, someday you might be ready to seek help
cuz only you know if you need it or not. i didn't get help
til i was 25, i knew i needed it but it took that long to
face up to it, but once you talk about the things you don't
want to talk about it feels so much better, the proverbial
weight is lifted


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-14 13:31 [#00441997]
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i like me dad...


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-11-14 13:33 [#00442004]
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"but it's kind of like an ostrich that sticks it's head in
the ground and thinks it can't be seen anymore :-/
It's a sollution that seems to work, but doesn't really
solve anything."

but there's nothing to be solved, all that matters is that
you feel complete, not how the world is looking at you. I
don't feel the need to adjust my sence of completeness to
the views of society(a lot of "normal" people see
psychiatric help themselves)



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-14 13:35 [#00442013]
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lets not trry and make surrounded into someone with a mental
prroblem, it seems morre to me like perrsonallity. i would
rrather sit in silence with someone like surrounded than
spend a lifetime listening to some of the jackasses out
therre spout off.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-14 13:35 [#00442015]
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I see you found someone to fix your picture... sorry I
couldn't...


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:44 [#00442048]
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same here! but most everyone i've met is scared of silence
for some reason.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-14 13:50 [#00442067]
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it's okay really... thanks :-) I don't really feel very
"weird" or that there is something wrong with me.

I just know that i am sometimes unhappy about my life (but
on other days i like it), and i recognise that proffesional
help might be a solution... but i don't know. Maybe
it's all a matter of luck, and meeting the right persons...
or maybe one day i will feel particularly courageous and
then do something that makes a difference.

Like i've said, i haven't given up hope... things'll work
out, one way or the other.

I agree this is a warm and cozy thread :-)
Altough i didn't intend it to be so specifically about
shyness and solitude... i do like it! This is my favorite
thread in a while :-)


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-11-14 13:51 [#00442073]
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ophecks did it.

but nothing serious happened! don't worry :) thanks for
trying :)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-14 13:55 [#00442090]
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now that is true! Sometimes i feel like saying: "i bet you
think this is an uncomfortable silence?" when i am quiet
around someone ;-)

It seems to make a lot of people nervous.

But i like silence... i think alot of people talk too much.
It's good to just sit and think for a while.

And yeah, i think being with someone in silence can be alot
better that talking to alot of people that are out there
:-)

But then when i think the other person will find the silence
uncomfortable, i also start to find it uncomfortable myself.
:-/


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-14 13:58 [#00442103]
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it is uncomforrtable to starrt with when you don't know
someone, and thats just norrmal.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-14 13:59 [#00442106]
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"But then when i think the other person will find the
silence
uncomfortable, i also start to find it uncomfortable
myself."

exactly.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-14 14:09 [#00442128]
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"i didn't get help til i was 25, i knew i needed it but
it took that long to face up to it,
"

Well... yeah, sometimes i feel like that's exactly my
situation at this moment! (but i'm only 24 ;-) I've still
got a year to gather enough courage, lol).

"but once you talk about the things you don't want to
talk about it feels so much better, the proverbial weight is
lifted
"

Hm... i can see how that could work. (i'll have to look up
in a dictionary tonight what "proverbial" means ;-) but
still i can understand what you're saying...

Well... we'll see. Thanks a bunch for all your kind words
anyway :-D I have to leave the computer now, but i'm sure
we'll talk again.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-14 14:15 [#00442140]
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proverbial, it means like a cliche or something, like the
cliche statement the weight was lifted from my shoulders.
later


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-14 14:17 [#00442147]
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"Me=Extreme Loner"
Shit man I used to be a loner to but I fell in love, got my
heart ripped out and handed to me on a plate and so now it's
too late to turn back to lonerism cos I can't...


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-14 14:24 [#00442167]
Points: 3349 Status: Lurker



"There are alot of shy people on this board..."
I'm not Shy I'm a fucking GOD. Hahaha NO. I'm
probably just as bad as you guys if not more fucked up.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-14 14:26 [#00442172]
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how come you can't go back to hermitizing?


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-14 14:38 [#00442192]
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once i met up with a girl in town, and as we were walking
throught town there was a bit of a silence and she
laughingly said "you're kind of scary. I think it's because
you dont say much, and spend a lot of time thinking, as if
you're planning something."

I just said that i think a lot and lots of people dont think
about consequences of their actions and stuff. After that we
went and sat at a bench and talked for about 3 hours, even
though it felt like it had only lasted for 15 minutes!

To all 'loners' here, do you have one person who you talk to
LOADS. Cos i used to be a complete loner, maybe a bit sad
and down, then i kept talking to my friend up in birmingham
on the net and by phone and she cheered me up so much. Now
its usually me cheering her up, because she's finding
changes difficult.

I wouldn't call myself a loner anymore, a bit of a floater
(hah) because i dont stick to groups of people, i move from
group to group, trying not to conform to once group's way of
behaving. I'm hardly ever SAD sad, sometimes emotional, but
i wouldn't call it sadness.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-14 14:40 [#00442194]
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Because after leaving it (for me at any rate) I got the
"hunger", the "stress" and the "loneliness".

"Hunger" - We ain't talking sex here. We're talking
everything and anything. I feel this insane
need for something and I don't know what it is. Many things
can put this @ bay but the hunger is never totally gone.
Take now for instance. Attractive girlfriend, fun people
around me etc. and yet the hunger is still there.

As for stress that's just your avergae, run of the mill
stress due to stuff like work etc.. but in my case it's
amplified by 1000! Seriously I stress too much (I'm going to
counselling about it!!). And stress leads to depression
which leads to loneliness...

I wouldn't want to go back to being a loner as I missed out
on a lot a great stuff but at times I wish I could achieve
that inner calm that was once mine...


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-14 14:46 [#00442202]
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is the "hunger" got anything to do with a feeling of
underachievement?

I worry a little about my future, about how i may completely
fail, because i dont believe or like the system.


 

offline Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2002-11-14 14:48 [#00442204]
Points: 1362 Status: Regular



Sorry, I completely disagree. The most important things in
life are carrots. Yes, they are.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-14 14:49 [#00442206]
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"underachievement". I don't think so. At least not that I'm
aware but you never know what the old sub-conscious (sp?) is
up to. Hmm me it's more of a I don't feel at home anywhere
vibe.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-14 14:56 [#00442212]
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i'm just strrange. i do things to scarre people off me if i
don't like them and i do things to see peoples rreactions.
forr example some days i stop talking at all to anyone, i
just neverr speak and see what happens. sometimes i just
burrst into this strream of talking and i talk forr ages
about nothing and everrything without thinking.

i'm not a loony, i do it just to see...


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-14 14:57 [#00442215]
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you'll have to start reading Sigmund Freud, see what he says
about your subconcious


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-14 14:59 [#00442221]
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heh, i do weird things sometimes.

I always talk about weird things, and i always pick up on
things i see. Journeys are great fun, i get to see so much,
and i try to make sure everyone else sees it too! Driving
through London at night i amazing.... so cool - a great way
to finish a night after a gig.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-14 15:10 [#00442237]
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He'll probably just tell me that it's something to do with
my mother or something, I doubt it...


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-14 15:15 [#00442242]
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i'd shit myself if a dead and rotting purrvert starrted
talking to me, i'd crry.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-11-14 15:16 [#00442243]
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yeah.. i can relate to a lot of you...
i've always been a loner.. lived in self imposed isolation
for a while.. but then it got old and i didnt know how to
get out of it..

things are a little better now.. i have a few close friends
who i can relate to ...but still keep quiet around most
other people

i've always had that problem of girl-less-ness also.. but it
didnt bother me as much.. i sort of accepted the fact that
the girl i was looking for existed only in my head... but
then i found her in real life..that whole situation's sort
of done my head in
now its just a matter of building up enough courage to do
something about it..
but i think once that happens things will be peachy

hah anus.. you sound just like my friend..does all sorts of
crazy things to see people's reactions.. but he's just as
socially inept as i am.. so he uses the crazy things to hide
himself from people..by distracting them in a way


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-14 15:23 [#00442250]
Points: 4736 Status: Lurker



surrounded-

heh i know pretty much exactly how you feel. the thing about
'being a loner' is that it isn't accepted by society. you're
considered weird if you're able to entertain yourself these
days without the need for an active social life. music is
the one important thing for me too, but i'm starting to get
fed up. not with music but with my whole situation. i'm
happy that i'm moving to a student appartment in january. it
will be good to have a go at having doing other things
beside music again.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-14 15:27 [#00442255]
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"things are a little better now.. i have a few close
friends who i can relate to"


i dont think that being by yourself is a bad thing.
being in a clique is the worst!!

i think may have found the 'perfect' girl, but she's too far
away - long distances are just stupid!


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-14 15:29 [#00442257]
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yeah, being a loner is definately not accepted by society.
It's even less accepted if your a girl, i bet.

Girls are expected to go out and find a man to 'protect'
them. stupid patriarchal beliefs


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-14 15:54 [#00442268]
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great thread, yeah i too am mostly alone for the most part,
i mean i have friends at school and we usually do stuff on
the weekends and what have you but theres no person thats
like my best friend and we always do things, i used to have
that but at my new school its just different. anyways,i
like being by myself too, people always ask me why I dont
talk and I dont really know what to say to that question, i
mean what am I supposed to say, "because im different than
you"? i have no problems with being alone, some people could
never be by themselves and that would suck, I can be by
myself and in a group and I think thats a good thing and
definately not bad, even if you mostly are by yourself
because thats what i usually do.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-14 19:58 [#00442509]
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music is my religious expereince. it doesn't get in the way
of other aspects of my life though... it informs all that i
do and am. ejoying an exuisite dessert is music. courting
girls is music:)


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-14 20:04 [#00442523]
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yeah, I have this friend in Washington (she lives here
really, but goes to school in washington) who I talk with
about everything and anything... I've known her since I was
in grade 6, and we've become pretty close the last few
years... I find I'm fairly attracted to her as well, because
she's just so nice and fun and great, but also really
attractive... however, she is only interested in
friendship... which is fine, because I love her as a
friend... but still, a small part of me wishes it could be
something else...


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-14 20:11 [#00442531]
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we all need other people in our lives I think... But being a
loner is ok too I think... I see a lot of people who rely on
others for their happiness and stuff, and that's retarded...
In a lot of ways I'd rather be by myself, and I think in
some ways that's great... I don't rely on others, I'm
self-sufficient... but I still need some connection with
other people... be it my parents, sister, friends, etc...


 

offline axion from planet rock (Sweden) on 2002-11-15 01:10 [#00442721]
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life is music music is life or something like that


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-15 03:55 [#00442830]
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That's great! I think such a huge change of environment will
definitly make things very different for you. (in a good
way!). You're bound to meet atleast some people you can
relate to. And at the same time you'll still be able to
listen to lots of music :-p It's a good thing you're not fed
up with music yet, hehe.

That would be a sad day indeed...


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-15 04:04 [#00442837]
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Yes that's true! In alot of ways it makes you stronger if
you can be by yourself. Alot of people seem to be really
desperate to find things to do in the weekends. And if they
haven't been able to make plans by friday they almost start
to panic... "oh my god? What am i going to do this
weekend?!?"... i never have that problem ;-) It's just a
good feeling to me that i don't have to depend on other
people to entertain me.

And i understand what you're saying about that girl :-/ In
the last couple of years i've met a few girls (well, mostly
over the internet :-p Being the nerd that i am, but i've
also met some of them in real life) who thought i was a
wonderful person, and yet they would prefer to have me as a
friend. And ofcourse that's great, and you can never have
too many friends etc... but still...

sigh...

oh well. Someday you will find your funkmistress! :-p I'm
sure of it!


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-15 04:05 [#00442839]
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aaah, okay! :-) That makes sense, we have a similar
expression in dutch.

And eh... yeah, since even writing in this thread has made
me feel a little bit better, i can see how actually talking
to someone about it would be a relief...


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-15 05:35 [#00442906]
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I think loners also have huge ties with their immediate
family. In these day when the modern family is breaking up
that's a really good thing.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-15 05:44 [#00442921]
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hm... not really in my case. Both my brother and my sister
are like the complete opposite of me! Outgoing, social, lots
of friends... i can hardly relate to them at all. (but i
also think they're living incredibly shallow lives :-/ I'm
not jealous of them, that's weird actually... because
they're probably enjoying their lives more than me).

my mom's great though :-)



 


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