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well i don't like aphex twin.......i heard all the stuff he has done and i can say that is way too overrated......what's special about richard?maybe i just don't understand.....i think autechre are a lot better.......they are much more experimental and austere.....more intresting.....and i also prefer kid 606 matmos pan sonic oval ecc ecc |
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aphex twin is god richard is god |
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well, I agree.. I think RDJ is overrated. |
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There's no law that says you have to like Aphex Twin. Enjoy your Kid606 and have a good day. |
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uauhauah ok but i don't think he's a genius......i don't understand what is incredible about him.....i just don't get it.....what's special? |
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Well.... name one other artist who made the kind of sound you can hear on Selected ambient works vol 1, in 1982. Isnt that enough to prove something. |
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the fact that he has created new genres and beaten paths for artsists around the world he's one of the most influencial artists in idm right now and probably ever |
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By the way, I agree with Steve - you dont have to like anything or anyone. There are artists whose music I dont like either, but I can still respect them for being special in some way. |
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i got saw 1 and i think it pales after you listen to incunabula......i think saw 2 is his best but nothing special(cd 1 is great cd 2 awful) |
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cd 2 is some of his best work! n/m we obviously have different opinions, i'll just leave it at that enjoy autechre, they're great too =) |
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yeah i understand that aphex is very influential but i think that other artists have developed his idea in a better way.......saw 1 is good but i don't know there are songs that i really hate of that record......like ptolemy....actium....pulsewidth......the rest is very good! |
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i guess if you lived it when he set about setting the standarrd you may think differrent. in the light of the new bands that have followed in his footsteps maybe he's not AMAZING, but neitherr arre the Pixies when you look at it like that but they arre the daddys. just like RDJ. |
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well said! |
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i don't know......i love sonic youth but every time i listen to daydream nation or bad moon rising or cofusion is sex or evol i don't feel the music as old or dated....and is music that is almost 20 years old.....and i like also pixies....i think they are pretty unique...... |
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o well each to theirr own *ya big tarrt* |
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sorry you don't care much for AFX. i used to argue over this stuff to the death of it but i've stopped cos it's important for people to let heir musical tastes run freely. i really like SY and slint btw. |
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anus prestley?butthole surfers? |
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great titsworth!do you like fugazi? |
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no he's not - the music you are talking about has no emotion |
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i've heard saw85-92 and drukqs, from these listens i'd say he's fantasticlly overrated compared to Ae and BoC, even though there's lots of people who think differently, therefore i've got to respect what he's done. |
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yea i like fugazi a lot.. finally got to see them this past summer, they're really excellent live. do you like girls against boys? they're a little kitsch but still great, IMO. |
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yeah i heard them but i don't know them very well.......CROCOMIRE YOU'RE RIGHT how's washington? |
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it's good but to be honest i'm going school outside of the city at the moment, so i couldn't tell ya :) |
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AH OK......but what do you do when you go out?disco?party?pubs? |
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to be honest clubs aren't really big in DC. they just shut down our only notable dance club (Buzz; you might've heard of it). most clubs here are either jazz or go-go (DC's only music that hasn't caught on big outside of the city). i go to live concerts for fun. also, while there are no major clubs, there're a lot of pubs and fine restaurants. there are some tiny clubs but they're not really for music lovers. (just.... animal lovers) |
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RDJ is overrated, some of his tunes are shit. ImHo......but he was one of the pioneers of IDM, thats why he gets all the CRED....... |
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i can't think of any artist whose output has been perfect. nin i'm 95% happy with. bjork about 98%. radiohead 98%. mogwai 90%. aphex twin 90%. dj shadow 95%. actually portishead probably comes close. i love all the album tracks. they'd get a 100% if it weren't for some of their remixes on singles and their remixes of other artists. 90%. |
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mhhh ok......i suppose that there are a lot of great concerts in washington.....here the biggest of the season is moby......then i think morcheeba......but in a place near florence i saw us maple 3 weeks ago....great concert.... |
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yea i imagine that italy woud have MUCH better clubbing but not as good concerts. i used to like moby a few years ago (up till 2000). i bet he's still good live but i'm not interested. mocheeba i like what little i've heard. i love their new song with slick rick about ricky d killing his wife for getting too fat after having their baby. |
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well i suppose that there are a lot of great concert in washington.....here the biggest concert of the season is moby....then morcheeba....but i saw us maple 3 weeks ago.....GREAT CONCERT |
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aw man someone needs to tell you about accessing page 2 of threads.. i haven't heard of maple |
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"well i don't like aphex twin......" that's OK "i heard all the stuff he has done and i can say that is way too overrated" Well you can't look into someone else's mind so how do you know how someone else should rate him? "what's special about richard?maybe i just don't understand....." the combination of catchy melodies, sonic tricks and great breakbeats with tons of tweaks, diversity, playfulnes(newer tracks), almost ritualistic darkness(older tracks) "i think autechre are a lot better.......they are much more experimental and austere.....more intresting.....and i also prefer kid 606 matmos pan sonic oval ecc ecc" I think their music is totally different... |
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90% of their music leaves me cold aphex is emotional as well as being technically groundbreaking - he's also melodic and sometimes even dancebale + he has a range of emotions and styles whilst autechre only seem to have one - he does what autechre do over an album in one song and makes it listenable and involving |
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90% of their music leaves me cold aphex is emotional as well as being technically groundbreaking - he's also melodic and sometimes even dancebale + he has a range of emotions and styles whilst autechre only seem to have one - he does what autechre do over an album in one song and makes it listenable and involving. |
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i have feel simillar towards another respected icon in IDM. BoC. i just cant get them. I didnt like music has the right to children and havent been botherd to check out the new record. i probably should give the new record a try but right now i dont feel like it. i understand why people like them but there is something that i dont like about them that i cant really figure out.. hmmz. but i have to agree with you on pan sonic...... they are great...... i wouldnt say they are better then aphex because i dont think they really compare...... diffrent styles....... its like comparing a paint program with a audio program IMHO :) |
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For you to ask "What is so great" is equally as challangeing an arguement as for me to say "he is great" and that is all your getting from me about it. He is great. |
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How can someone who isn't even "mainstream" be considered over-rated? I think Britney Spears fits this term more properly |
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I think that of all the idm artists I've heard RDJ is the most talented when it comes to natural talent, but is also too fucked in the head to be as good an artist as he could... if he would use his talent to it's fullest and release more shit we wouldn't have to have this argument |
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Actually BoC I find are one of the least respected IDM artists - mainly because of their popularity (obviously within the genre of music). Most people seem to say "Fuck's sake, what's up with Boards Of Canada, everyone loves em and I think they suck!" - I think they're pretty overrated and that has been covered many a time on this board. Aphex is obviously revered for doing what he did for electronic music and maybe a lot of people look at him with beer goggles but at the end of the day he's made some fantastic music IMO so I will always respect him as an artist. Plaid are better, though =oD |
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Well said |
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I think the problem is RDJ is an amazing classical musician caught in an electronic age |
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Ofcourse he's overrated junior but who isn't? Technically he's a genius but he's also fucked up in the head, some of his work makes fascism seem reasonable. |
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i think the problem is that people have different opinions. :p |
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that is one hell of a problem huh? jk |
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RDJ isn't overrated. He's done every possible style and done it well, and trailblazed it more often than not. He's the jack of all trades. Wish the guy wasn't so weird sometimes, though. |
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Boards of Canada got more publicity than I suspect even they wanted. I think they deserve it though. I just wish they hadn't gotten so big. |
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why do you wish that? It just allows more people to get exposed/hypnotised by there music, allow them to make more money and more music |
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I think with some artists being more popular can actually damage their music. I wish I didn't see things this way, but I do. *cries* |
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yeah I suppose, I guess it goes both ways, kinda like you huh LOL thats right, keep crying bitch! |
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yeah, jarworski pretty much summed it up.. also, it's not as cool and fun to like a band that everyone likes on some superficial level, when to you it's a deep, meaningful part of your life and you sorta discovered them earlier, etc. It's partly selfishness and elitism, but we've had long, uncomfortable discussions about that... |
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