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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2002-11-06 06:34 [#00430078]
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how do you think aphex makes his music does he have it all thougt out in his head or does he improvise when he sits down to make a track
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J-HOK
on 2002-11-06 06:46 [#00430082]
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i think he dreams it, then spends the following day trying to realise the dream
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-06 06:47 [#00430083]
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i think he just let it all go...do what he feels... =)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-11-06 06:48 [#00430084]
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i think he gets an idea and than work on it
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2002-11-06 06:52 [#00430086]
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we can only gues
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-06 06:52 [#00430087]
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the IDM pixie vists him on a regular basis
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-06 06:52 [#00430088]
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i think hes doing it with his instinct :)
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J-HOK
on 2002-11-06 06:58 [#00430093]
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no, he really does dream his songs, then spends hours trying to re-create them, thats how most people make music isnt it?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-11-06 06:59 [#00430094]
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i never hear any sounds in my dreams :)
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2002-11-06 07:00 [#00430095]
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you mean day dreaming
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J-HOK
on 2002-11-06 07:03 [#00430097]
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no, night dreams
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2002-11-06 07:14 [#00430100]
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the thing i find when making traks is, you just gotta go with the flow.
you might start with a bit of an idea (a beat or melody, bassline, something) but you gotta let it go where it wants to.
i never really know where the things are gonna end up.
but yeah, everyone works in different ways.
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J-HOK
on 2002-11-06 07:14 [#00430101]
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like whilst asleep S.O.T.
i know for a fact that this is what he does
;)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-06 07:19 [#00430105]
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I rarely get "extreme" music in dreams, usually fairly simple synth melodies. I've only managed to recreate a synth "patch" from a dream once. It wasn't terribly good- just a challenge to get it down in digital form.
That said I find it really hard to get down music from my head as it's usually more classical/folksy type stuff and I'm gash at traditional composition (plus I lack a full orchestra at my beck & call 24hrs a day :) )
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J-HOK
on 2002-11-06 07:21 [#00430110]
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i get hours of music in my dreams, its fun to listen to it all, but difficult to remember much detail :( and even more difficult to translate it into reality :<
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-06 07:23 [#00430111]
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Well I think he really does experiment. Makes a note of what sounds good and what it sounded like and how he created it. After a bit he goes through his notes and sees what he thinks would combine to make something. I can't put a tune from my head down for toffee. I have all these really cool drum patterns in my head but I can't get them out. I want a machines that takes music out of your head and straight onto the screen for you. That'd be sweet. Imagine the possibilities for IDM......
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J-HOK
on 2002-11-06 07:25 [#00430114]
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learn the drums, then you'll release them. + i shared a flat with theaphextwin for 3 or 4 years, often chatting 'bout music making-- unless he lied to me :(
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-06 07:31 [#00430116]
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i think its easy to get the tunes from your head down in some way or other, it's creating the atmosphere that goes with the tunes thats difficult, that feeling that came with the tune.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-06 07:33 [#00430117]
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Ah, the drums is one thing I can get down from my head- I tend to just use a software drum machine and I can get it pretty accurate. It's just a shame you can't put the odd beat just a little bit off time (like a real drummer would). I know there are "humanise" settings, but I'd like to be able to do it really precisely "off" if that makes sense?
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J-HOK
on 2002-11-06 07:33 [#00430118]
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click on their heads:
http://svt.se/hogafflahage/hogafflaHage_site/Kor/hestekor.s wf
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-06 07:34 [#00430121]
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the old saying "Music is 1% inspiration, and 99% persperation"
meaning, once you just get that one good idea, that inspiration, the rest of it just falls into place around it
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-06 07:35 [#00430123]
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Damn you!
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J-HOK
on 2002-11-06 07:35 [#00430124]
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that says C L I C K not D I C K by the way
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-06 07:36 [#00430125]
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ceri: do a real time recording... like, i assume you got a midi keyboard? play the drums into the sequence on the keyboard
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-06 07:38 [#00430127]
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hehe, thats great, reminded me of Pow-R-Toch-H by Pink Floyd
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-06 07:38 [#00430128]
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yes zeus, i know what u mean like when im drawing something, i never really get 100% of what i wanted to do...but the general impression of what i felt.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-06 08:02 [#00430137]
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I can't get my midi keyboard to work :( I know that it's not my card as my midi controller works fine.
Thanks for the idea though, that'd be the ideal way to do it... I was tempted to just record the line out of the keyboard on precussion setting before.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-06 08:12 [#00430140]
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MIDI! I forget about that... I need a new cable. Anyone know where I can get one on-line in the UK? The 25 pin one for the Joystick/Midi in on soundcards.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-06 08:18 [#00430142]
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Dunno mate, should be able to get it at maplins.co.uk I bought mine from a synth shop in london... they certainly are handy, esp. as they have a piggy back slot to pug a joypad in as well... Mine was £15, should be about £12 online I think.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-06 08:25 [#00430150]
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Maplins.co.uk? Great! I used to go to them when I was into electronics but they kept giving me the wrong resisters and stuff because rather then admit they didn't know what I was talking about they would give me anything so I stopped using them. That URL will be handy tho thnx! Hopefully no hy00man error.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-06 08:39 [#00430162]
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Due to their ineptitude with shipping components I missed a B at A level DT by a very small margin. However, other than that they've been pretty good apart from selling a flatmate the wrong sort of network cable. Damn, come to think of it my MP3 CD player is playing up now and I got that from them too...
Still I must have bought about 100 things from them over the years so 2 things going wrong isn't that bad. They're good for cabling & connectors, but the staff are sometimes a bit ignorant (I mean really, anyone who is a savvy electrician, salesperson and IT bod all in one wouldn't work in a shop as a sales assistant) and you should be warned of buying imported junk electronics from them.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-06 08:45 [#00430166]
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Remember Tandy? I used to hate those guys. I'd go in looking for stuff for my BBC Micro and they would either patronize the hell out of me, pressure me to buy some crap I didn't want or just sell me stuff that wouldn't work. Everything I got from Tandy/Radioshack used to break. Everything. My BBC Micro didn't progress any place cuz of them. :/
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-06 08:58 [#00430187]
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They should've leant the basic rule of life. Don't fuck with another mans BBC Micro It's quite simple. If they do it should be execution. No Judge. No jury. Fucking go out and hang them.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-11-06 08:59 [#00430188]
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HEY, i think the technical aspects are stil the hardest part when it comes to making music...like...how do I create this sound, where can those Drum Samples etc.....
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-06 09:02 [#00430191]
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Definately, recreating a sound from your head is very hard. Some you couldn't even start to do...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-06 09:08 [#00430199]
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i acctually think its much easier getting a sound out of my head, and the production etc, then to come up with a really great musical element, melody etc.
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-11-06 09:15 [#00430210]
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You got a lot of reverb then Zeus? ;)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-06 09:17 [#00430215]
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You got a lot of reverb then Zeus? ;)
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-11-06 09:19 [#00430219]
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well, at least you got echo. But I sometimes fall asleep while still being kinda conscious and then I can hear anything I want, like strings and drums and melodies, all in different patterns.
Its hard to recreate, but I use the general ideas and sounds to create something different.
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-11-06 11:28 [#00430345]
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christian vander of the freaky freejazz band magma also sees all his music in his dreams. his songs even have their own language (from his dreams). it is like a mixture of hungarian, english and german.
my fiance claims he must see better dreams than richard but i really, really don't agree :)
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