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the NME are only interested in their dwindelling sales which is probably why they cover shite 'pop' arsetists nowadays instead of the more underground music they used to. very sad. :( |
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what do you guys think about Q? i think they think they arre "differrent" but in fact are alot morre mainstrream than they believe. we all know that Q is a mainstrream magazine, but i get the imprression when they do things like new to Q they think they are being pioneers of music off of the beaten trrack. i read Q because unlike some people i don't limit myself to just abstrract (as in not mainstrream) music, neither do i just limit myself to mainstrream music. lets all just stick to The Wire and leave it at that. |
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it keeps saying "Invalid query" when i try to reply... |
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George: in the USA things are far less liberal than in Holland. not only is there less interest in things outside of the norm, few newstands carry "other music" magazines and our MTV only plays artists that are or soon will be hugely profitable (ie: marketable). we do NOT have any "underground" stations. as i think i mentioned, 3 huge companies own 80-90% of the radio stations in the country, community owned radio is dying out, and college radio stations are being forced out of the market by the FCC's rising fees and regulations. (cont.) |
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because of this strong-armed situation, people really aren't aware of other music, and when the opportunity to read a music about electronica, world music, whatever, comes along, or to watch a music video that looks "weird" and doesn't sound like most of what's popular, they shy away. they've been brainwashed into thinking that the mtv, that the media are their friends and are already being kept on cuff of what's great in music. there are of course exceptions; i mean, look what message board we're posting on (although, as you've noted, things are different in holland and, i imagine, most of europe for that matter). however, most have been robbed of any curiosity they once had about other music because they've been convinced that the so-called "variety" found on mtv and the radio truly represents what's out there. what i have proposed is that we, as (if i can be so bold) "enlightened" music losteners, take back the airwaves, break up the monotony that's reigned over popular music for the last several years (mirroring globalization and increased corporate greed, not coincidentally), and expose people to other artists that i believe they might like better. i'm not saying what's popular now shouldn't be played or isn't worth listening to, just noting that most music out there is being ignored. i'm not being "paranoid," i'm just analyzing it deeply. people seem to overreact when i analyze things, like i'm wrong for putting thought into things so "trivial" as music, or, hell, even politics and society. |
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Anus: i like Q but it's like $8 imported here in the US, too much. plus i don't know a lot of the rock bands they cover. |
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"however, most have been robbed of any curiosity they once had about other music because they've been convinced that the so-called "variety" found on mtv and the radio truly represents what's out there." Hm... well that sucks :-/ It's hard to believe you're actually describing people in their 20's there! It reads to me more like a description of how most 13year-olds listen to music. Most of the people i know have "moved on" so to speak, and formed somewhat of a personal taste and opinion about music. After that last post i can understand a little better where you're coming from. After reading your description of the state USA is in musicwise... it seems even more amazing that a record like Kid A sold so well over there. |
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yea it's quite a feat, although most people here know radiohead and would say they're "ok". and another large % would say they're "great" or are big fans of them. it's sad that people in their 20s either listen just to what the radio popularizes or have given up completely on current music, relying completely on classic rock to get them by.. |
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still you can't blame everything on the media i think... especially the last category (people who've given up)... you may need to search a little harder for it, but it's not like it's impossible to discover interesting music. Even in america... i honestly don't think changing the system will instantly solve all those problems... people need to change their attitude and be more willing to explore. My God... imagine listening to classic rock all the time... you're supposed to start doing that only when you're atleast 40 years old ;-) |
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NME used to be a great magasine, because it had to battle with others, like melody maker, select etc. now they have all died, its just NME on its own indie self, and therefore it pretty much does what it wants. Anyway, i like a few of these new bands. I saw the vines last friday in cambridge and they were great, and i've seen interpol (who were amazing, ophecks, PDA is a work of genius), the white stripes and the strokes and they all were good live and good bands. Sure they might not be the most innovative bands but it doesnt matter that much as long as the music has its own style and sounds good. |
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yea but do you see what i'm saying about people being conditioned not to care about new music (or indie films for that manner)? americans, it seems, are particularly non-adventurous (closeminded), and i think that is at least partly due to media saturation (europeans tend to be smarter about not buying into everything that's presented to them, although then again, this whole garage rock revival started over there right? no one heard of the strokes or the white stripes here until they were huge in the UK, which is hilarious cos they're american bands). |
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Yeah well, in england people generally hate the band Bush, and they seem to do particulary well in the USA :-p Weird things like that happen sometimes i guess. And yes, i see your point. And i think you're right also. Makes me glad to live in holland and not america. I think in Belgium (our neighbour-country) things are even better. They have a radiostation called Studio Brussel which seems hugely popular, which apparantly plays alot of strange/unknown/underground/alternative music all the time. I think this is one of the biggest and most popular stations... seems really cool (i wish i'd be able to receive it!)... being exposed to that all the time must have a good effect on people's musical curiosity! (and indeed, some of the most interesting and unique bands i know come from belgium... with musicians in them who probably grew up listening to studio brussel. |
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