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offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-10-21 04:27 [#00411074]
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BBC viewer-poll has discovered the GREATEST 100 British
people EVER last night !!!

Butcher of the Irish, Oliver Cromwell made the top 10, as
did Elizabeth 1 who had her own sister executed ! excellent
!

Greatest LIVING Britons are Margaret Thatcher, dark servant
of capitalist emancipation & wait for it .... Michael
Crawford, camp ex-light-entertainer and serial adulterer!!
Yeah!!

good to see revolutionaries such as Robbie Williams and
David Beckham at last getting the credit they deserve, and
the heroic and philanthropic king Richard III right up
there.

I'm so proud to be British !!!

(seriously) :) My vote goes to Charles Darwin who took on
the establishment and religious theocracy with his superior
understanding and genuine love for humanity.
(altogether...AAhhhh) :D



 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-10-21 04:31 [#00411078]
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I voted for Shakespear

Good ol' will =oDD


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-21 04:33 [#00411079]
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I voted for Jim Bowen!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-10-21 04:35 [#00411083]
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Did you hear about him calling a coloured woman a nig-nog on
radio?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-21 04:37 [#00411086]
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Your kidding me?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-10-21 04:39 [#00411087]
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We ARE talking about the Bullseye dude? If so, it was in the
paper last week. He 'retired' as a result. He said he was
'out of touch with today's times' i.e. he's a racist.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-21 04:41 [#00411090]
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my vote goes to RDJ
;)


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-21 04:41 [#00411091]
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Bullseye bloke indeed. Super, smashing, great, fabulous!
What a way to retire though. Insulting people live on air.
Then it's my second choice Bob Holness I will vote for.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-10-21 04:49 [#00411096]
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Is Michael Crawford a serial adulterer? Didn't expect that.

It said in the Daily Mail that Michael Barrymore puts drugs
in his mother's gravy at a dinner party and she almost died.
Crazy bastard.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-21 04:51 [#00411099]
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It also asid he puts all his fags out in the pool.

Sorry.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-10-21 05:19 [#00411135]
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hey smoky one..long time no sea..how you been?:)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-21 05:21 [#00411139]
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Ha ha, I hadn't heard that one :)


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-10-21 05:24 [#00411144]
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Darwin?...are we talking about the same dude?..The
Eugenist?....Instrumental in the development of Intelligence
tests and Nazi Euthenasia programs??


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-10-21 05:25 [#00411147]
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Hardly. His ideas were taken up, used and abused by social
Darwinists true, but he wasn't a precursor to eugenics or
any of those reactionary bastards. The same happened with
Nietzche (sp?) and the Nazis.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-10-21 05:27 [#00411150]
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Intelligence tests were developed by the reactionary cunt,
Hans Eysenck (sp?, again)


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-10-21 05:34 [#00411152]
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Some Eugenic Ideas in Darwin, The Descent of Man,

1st ed., 1871 / 2nd ed., 1874.

Natural Selection as affecting civilized nations. ... But
some remarks on the action of Natural Selection on civilized
nations may be worth adding. This subject has been ably
discussed by Mr W.R.Greg, and previously by Mr Wallace and
Mr Galton. Most of my remarks are taken from these three
authors. With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon
eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a
vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other
hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we
build asylums for the imbecile, the mained, and the sick; we
institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost
skill to save the life of every one to the last moment.
There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved
thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have
succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilized
societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to
the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must
be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how
soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the
degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case
of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow
his worst animals to breed. (133-4/138-9; first page numbers
to the 1st ed., second to the 2nd ed.)



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-21 05:44 [#00411156]
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But there is already "degenracy" in what we consider
attractive- pictures of 50 females shown to african
tribesman were ordered in preferance almost opposite to that
of white western males shown the same pictures. The
tribesman found the women best equipped for survival,
whereas the western males chose the most lithe, fair
ones...

Depends on what people term weak- unattractive, poor at
surviving in a particular climate (those well equipped to
deal with warmer climes wouldn't last long in the other
extreme), poor genes, infertile, lack of (or not) of
aggression etc. Diversity is the way nature overcomes
problems... homogenisation and inbreeding only introduce
more problems in the long run- a famous case is of a type of
new zealand sheep, bred for 15 generations to maximise wool,
they steadily got more and more "wooly" . Then around the
16th generation, they all started to have very thin fleeces.
Nature "dealt" with the controlled breeding by reversing the
accumulated effect. The same would happen with humans if
eugenics was applied over a large enough period (500 years
or so...)



 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-21 05:56 [#00411169]
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human is the most inadapted creature !
animals cant get on with an environement

i think human cant cos god is there
were way too bad


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-21 06:06 [#00411175]
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I voted for Shakespear..


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-21 06:15 [#00411193]
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i beg ur pardon
im in my bed...feverish
arggh
:(


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-10-21 06:47 [#00411233]
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amen to that
Eugenists were rich pompous upper class Eurocetric twats
imposing their social strata like a blue print on the rest
of the planet..totally ignoring common knowledge such as the
superior intellectual beings that they purpoted to be were
also the most inbred genetically degeretaing enfeebled both
physically and mentally..there were more occurences per
capita of mental handicap and dementia per capita in the
upper classes then the lower..and removed from their perfect
like cozy coccons they were physically, mentally,
emotionally and psychically incapable of surviving in any
other locale..even the industrial slum/townships in their
own cities let alone the planet faring, savage baiting
ambitions they possessed..


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-21 06:52 [#00411242]
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CHEERS flea
;)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-21 06:55 [#00411244]
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That's why the aristocracy has a reputation for insanity.
All families have a mad relative locked up in the attic...

There's also the argument however, that whilst diversity is
good, lack of some imbreeding will lead to a single
homogenised race, that would be highly susceptible to
disease. The best from a survivalist's POV would be a
mixture of the 2 strategies... Not saying that's a good
thing tho :)


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-10-21 06:55 [#00411246]
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:)


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-10-21 07:04 [#00411259]
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I think instincts have been coded into the psyches (I know I
am wading into meta physics even pseudo science here) checks
and balances into the equation which in the long run results
in evolution of societies..population etc...one way to say
it would be to drop a cliche and say "let nature take
course"...some people from opposite races are drawn to each
other..some (more than some arent)..though there's a healthy
proportion of race mixing taking place..(I am one half of
one:) )..and it's on more of an increase with diminishing
borders..but the homogenised race that people keep warning
of is still only in the realm of Photoshoped fashion
spreads..but the colour and dimensions this prototype
homogenised race are rather alarming...skins are getting
lightened..and features..moulded and shaped into an ideal
that is not even European..but more of a plastic surgeons
figment....


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-21 07:14 [#00411267]
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If you think about evolution, it seems strange that people
would naturally become one race, it doesn't seem to be a
good survival mechanism. I'm sure if it happens nature will
introduce some form of division, to re-balance it. Have you
read the book Galapogas by Kurt Vonnegut? Good points...

However, what you were saying about being attracted to
people of another race, there is a growing belief among
geneologists that feelings of attraction for someone are
based on the fact that their genes would complement yours
(perhaps the reasoning behind the "opposites attract"
theory?). Maybe this is the reason people have such
different tastes in mates (as in breeding partners-not
friends, I hope ;) )?


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-10-21 07:19 [#00411269]
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you said it! far more eloquently than I tried to meander in
my previos post..:)


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-10-21 07:33 [#00411274]
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did you hear that Michael Barrymore was found dead with
chocolate around his bum?

George Micheal has been arrested for being "Careless with a
Wispa"

=os


 

offline i am dgoHn from outta fucking space (Yemen) on 2002-10-21 07:51 [#00411291]
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i can't believe that i wasn't in it.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-21 07:56 [#00411295]
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Brilliant!

Gareth Gates is now promoting Penguins. P-P-P-P-P-Pick up a
penguin!


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-10-21 07:56 [#00411296]
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Hi flea; friends; comrades....

I actually voted for Lennon, but only because of a lack of
genuine heroes. I've been preparing travels next spring to
the far east, writing a book and occasionally checking in
here to see some really dire threads eg. "coffee or tea?"
being answered with humour or insight "when I was a kid I
generally preferred coffee, but now I've gone off it a bit
...but its hard to know why".
and other important existential dilemmas ...:((

So I've been killing time more productively.. But with chaps
like Ceri flea marlowe and the rest on form perhaps I'll
return to full time education ... here @xlt.mb :)
:D

I think Darwins work HAS been classed as racist by modern
standards but the modern day non-political evolution
movement seems to be all that stands between extreme
right-wing religious fundamentalism and US schools. Or am I
being too optimistic... Aye probably


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-21 07:58 [#00411301]
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Woah I just got this error message posting that!

Parse error: parse error in
/home/web/xltronic.com/html/mb/topic.php3 on line 140


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-10-21 11:19 [#00411694]
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hola smokey - I saw that show too, and registered my fair
share of sarcastic remarks on soulseek :)


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-10-21 13:48 [#00411767]
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Adolf Hitler!


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-21 21:54 [#00412228]
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Since when has Hitler been a Briton...

back to History clasees for you, young man...:)...

p.s. BTW Where jand in this list?....


 


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