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I saw a thing on the news this morning about artists campaigning against music piracy. It cracked me up. Alicia Keys said, "Downloading an album on MP3 is exactly the same as walking into a record store and stealing a copy". Yes, of course it is, you're taking a copy from the artist/publisher, whereas shoplifting you're "stealing" from the store (and subsequently people who work there) as well. Sily mare. The best was when rappers (who sing about robbing banks, muggings and saying "Fuck the law" etc.) lend their support. Hypocrits... |
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Greedy bitch. She played at a Tory party at Parliament. |
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I have a great deal of respect for Jarvis Cocker. He said that he tapes most music rather than buying it, and that if someone as wealthy as him does it he can't really complain when other people do. I reckon him & Courtney Love etc. should start "AAAAP" (Artists against artists against piracy) ;) |
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hehe . ah.. it all boils down to economics at the end of the day ... marx might have been on to something. i don't know .. wasn't it you ceri that said the mp3 thing didn't actually affect cd sales? but just the general economic climate? I mean, i've bought albums, of which i initially had mp3's. I would buy stuff like HAB, or Gescom stuff, but its impossible to get it any other way (there is ebay i guess). But generally i think mp3's just allow me to listen to more music that i would have before, i think i still buy roughly the same amount of music i used to - of course, that might just be me |
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I am downloading the 'Contact' album by 'not saying cuz you will laugh' but it has 'Stop pirates' on the back of the scanned cover. Now I want to buy this album but it came out last fucking year and STILL I can't buy it in this country so what the fuck am I gonna do? I wait a year so I have to download... *sighs * I paid £20 for their last album but it costs considerably less in Italy and the US. I want to buy, I can't, I download. Simple. |
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If this came out in the UK I would be happy to retire my bootleg. Not from HMV if it's £25 tho. |
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Be careful Korben, Meho will scorn you for abandoning postmodernism/poststructuralism hehe:D |
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Yep, can't vouch for the accuracy of the stats, but several different sources said CD sales were up 10% the same year napster started booming. Whenever artists use low cd sale stats it's from a period of general economic slump. A good example of manipulating statistics to prove a point... Personally I can only say the only album I would of bought ahd it not been available on MP3 is portishead's dummy. I will buy a copy of this on vinyl when I can find it. On the other hand I have bought at least 10 other albums as a result of hearing MP3s that I wouldn't of if I hadn't heard the MP3s first. It really does puzzle me why artists want MP3s banned, currently it seems to be working in their favour... Spikee: I agree, I want a copy of the fight club soundtrack, but I'm not paying £20 and waiting 6 weeks for HMV to import it from the USA... |
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I can only say... = I can honestly say... |
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Jonesy: no fear, i'm only rehashing marx as a pastiche, life is a game ... but first we must decide on the rules :) |
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Ceri: yeah .. i would have thought mp3's would be a brilliant form of advertising ... loads more people hear one's music etc ...? all about exposure |
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The fight club sountrack has been out in britain for ages,I bought it before I seen it at the cinema (that long ago),and it wasn`t import (and was a tenner). I get your point,I`m just being pernickity. :D |
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don't you guys have Borders in the UK? |
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The book shop (which also sells music and dvds/videos),yes.Can be quite expensive though. |
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...i'm not buying albums often...not because i have them on mp3, but because i can't afford it.... Ithe last 3 albums i bought was Aphex - come to daddy, radiohead - kid a (special cover-edition) and the richard d james album.... it's not becasue i'm greedy. i just don't have much money. And that is hard when youre a music lover |
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Ahh.. ok. Well, here in nz, Borders is generally slightly cheaper (for new releases) or the same as regular new releases, with the bonus of having some "import" cd's at the regular price. |
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i bought 27 cds this summer the RIAA can fuck off with thier "stats" |
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The fight club soundtrack is discontinued in the UK. I only heard it 6 months ago (after DLing MP3s of it incidentaly) and found that it is now only available on import. HMV claimed there were no copies in stock in any of their branches in the UK. What's borders? an import specialist? |
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If they want to piss and moan about people dowloading music then they shouldn't charge such exorbitant prices for CDs. And you can't tell me elton John needs more fucking presents. |
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"Piracy harms the industry" - First of all, those millionaires shouldn't complain. - musicmakers that make challanging music shouldn't be surprised that their music doesn't sell in large numbers. - There's hardly any evidence that piracy is the cause for lack of profit. - piracy stimulates ISPs and technology in which the companies behind RIAA often also have an interest in(Sony). - piracy gives knowledge of the existence of music - piracy gives both rich and poor people the chance to listen to the music they like - piracy gives people the chance to listen to music that is otherwise not obtainable - CDs are too expensive - artist are often more ripped off by their labels than by their fans - the "industry" is oldfashioned, think of something new instead of compaining constantly IMHO |
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compaining = complaining |
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Here here! |
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Alicia Keys said, "Downloading an album on MP3 is exactly the same as walking into a record store and stealing a copy". :O Britney Spears said the EXACT SAME THING!!! Can't these people think for themselves?! |
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Britney was part of the same campaign. Obviously some people not only need songs, but press releases written for them ;P |
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it depends totally on the label and werther the artist has sold much. i have stuff like fatboy slim or chemical brothers as mp3, and i do not have any moralic trouble with that. then again i try to by all the (for example) warp stuff i want. some stuff i just can't find as cd or vinyl. those are at the moment mike & rich, air liquide and trickys maxinquaye. |
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