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i know you guys are gonna tear this up, but i dont care. has anyone besides me noticed how the quality of autechre's work is going downhill? i mean... tri repetae and lp5 are undoubtedly their best because they are able to walk the line between melody and absolute rhythmic chaos in a way the ew stuff doesnt. it seems like they were walking a tightrope, and they fell in... just my thoughts PS: i WILL admit gantz graf works with the video, which was amazingly animated. |
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i do enjoy the gantz graf video a lot, but i prefer just the audio because my own visuals are far more multidimensionally pleasing. it's one of my favorite ae tracks so no, i don't think they are going downhill. i like ep7 better than lp5. |
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i kind of agree except for confield n peel session 2, the same thin line they are walking on those ones ep7 is in no way better than lp5, no way |
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Warp gave me a double LP promo of LP5 for free. Very nice of them. |
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well I think confield is great and a lot better than lp5 and ep7.......is much more original and unique.....each song has something distinct.......i think confield is their second best album(first is tri repetae) |
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right on! autechre should degenerate back to incunabula level. they were so much better then :/ (ps my website is now in english!) |
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I think LP5 is autechre's second worst release (Gantz Graf being worst!). Confield is intriguing. And as for Tri Repetae, I just hate those fucking dog noises! |
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imo, there stuff has been getting consistently better. "incunabula" could have been made by any number of people around at the time, whereas confield could only have been made by ae. Not even the imitators can keep up. |
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LP5 is definatly their best album imo! And no, I don't think they're really going downhill, altho I didn't really like gantz graf. |
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yeah incunabula is great but sound dated after you listen to confield......i think gantz graf sucks but it's a step back in comparison with confield.........confield is the future.hehehe |
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ok, so admitedly they are getting more TECHNICALLY proficient, but what about content? they just seem like they're all about goobldy gook and noise beat anymore. |
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hmm, i don't think it's about becoming technically more proficient. they have develloped more and more a very original style which i like very much. i really like their progression towards more abstract electronic music over the years. needless to say, i really LOVE confield. Gantz Graf is great too imo... |
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oh i dunno, they seem pretty content to me. |
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well, LP5 is the newest album of theres I've heard, and it's fantastic... so from Incunabula to LP5 I'd say they have been getting better with each album (except for tri repetae, which I think isn't close to as good as Amber)... I want to get EP7 next, and eventually Confield, to see what all the fuss is about! |
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I disliked Gantz Graf, but I'm holding out hope that they'll get back to Confield greatness, this was just a little misstep. Confield is thier best, and it's pretty recent, so I think they're still at the top of their game... I hope. |
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I prefer the old stuff, some EP7 and other misc recent tracks are awesome too. I find that most of the new stuff can't touch on the greatness of Piezo, Nine, VLetrmx21 etc. Gantz Graf is..baad. In a bad way. (remember my old topic on AE's "trapped in experimental glitch" role).. -P |
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EXACTLY!!!!!!! its WAY masturbatorial |
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I think Autechre is genius.. their career, with one or two exceptions, has been an exponential growth in brilliance. I think they get more and more profound with each release. It's a natural progression.. people blame them for losing the plot and getting more warpped up in the technology aspect, whcih to some extent is true, but I've never felt it was at the expense of quality. Like I said, I think it's gone up up up, with these exceptions: Tri Repetae is their best, and lp5 is not as good as it should have been considering its place in the continuum. Other than that, it's been straight up from Incunabula (boring, unpolished, mildly pleasant) to Gantz Graf (kid brother of Confield, more post-industrial techno meltdown). Man they are soooo good.. |
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I agree. the actual tracks on gantz graf didn't sound as inspired as lp5/ep7/chichlisuite. On both confield and gantz graf they were content with letting a song go on and on and on doing the same thing. Bine however was absolutely amazing, as was the video. The 3rd track on gantz graf is amazing too, I actually havn't listened enough. It could be that it hasn't seeped in yet. |
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it's funny how, when a people doesnt like an artist's newest music, he attributes it immediately to the artists. could it be the other way around? maybe autechre keep evolving in the same linear fashion, it's just that you cant keep up anymore... this point of view is just harder to admit, might as well blame it on autechre and the fact that they dont make the same quality music as they used to. and it all depends on your expectations too. |
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Word! |
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i like the ae from eps like anvil vapre and envane, but i can't see how they'll return to that. so. but i do hope there'll be more melody next time :) |
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Lp5 is there best and most assible albumn.. but I think that the newer stuff blows the old stuff away. |
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netlon, there is a lot of melody going on in confield, really. it's hidden sometimes, but that is why i think confield is such a great album. cortex, how very very true! |
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AE then...... |
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the position that ae are always in are autechre now vs. autechre then. that is how they progress. |
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Autechre basically own whole acres of IDM that so many other bands continue to mine....stuff that sounds like any of their work isn't difficult to find... but always AE get there first...that's what's special about em, i think...plus they are secure enough to still change constantly; what gets released is just snapshots of a longer process anyway... hehe..you just gotta believe sometimes..:)... |
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ae get better all the time. gantz graf is wonderful, confield is brilliant. just listen to the textures of sound in those last two albums.. I'm always really surprised when people say there isn't any melody on confield - there are lots, and not very complex either. even gantz graf has a melody (well, up till about halfway through..). CORTEX: I kind of agree with you, although I also think its a dangerous argument (sounds to much like "oh, you just don't understand their music" which I think is really pedantic to say to something - you like the sounds you hear, or you don't, whatever the reasons for that may be..). |
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autechre now, the older stuff ive heard isnt that great but i like everything after tri repetae. |
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"..to say to something.." 'something' here should read as 'someone' ofcourse.. |
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for those who love autechre but are dissapointed by gantz graf, you are missing out. the title track, give it more listens, with headphones to get all the subtle but juicy nuances of the path of the textures as well as the whole synergy of it all.... it is quite the journey. |
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autechre future... |
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new and pre-new |
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for the record, just because something has "melody" doesnt mean its "good" and just becuase something is "glitch" doesnt make it good either. it depends on how you interpert the songs. one hears mindless overdone glitches, someone else sees it as something entirely different. as CORTEX said, it depends on the listeners expecations. as this thread proves, everyone has their ideal autechre type of sound that they like. or maybe not at all. overall, just depends on the listener. now vs then...is all subjective to the listner and his/her own opinions on music. AND ETC AND HWARJ |
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does the fact that one person has a great listening experience with a piece of music mean that the potential exists for anyone to have a great listening experience if they "open up to it", or is completely subjective? |
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in other words is there some amount of objectivity along side the subectivity? i'm just interested in other's opinions, i'm not saying either way at the moment. |
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well, anything like that is possible really. i didnt like autechre much when i first heard it, but that changed. same with a few artists. obviously if you have listened to more things, your concepts of what something should sound like is more defined. but even then, its still just a personal taste or opinion, when it comes down to it i dont think there is superior sounding music. its just different tastes. |
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i say they shouls bring back the chiastic slide style! |
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whatever they do, i hope they don't aim to recreate a prevoius release. |
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Same, they were good then, they are good now. Of course the more recent releases sound better because they're more contemporary. LP5, EP7 and Confield are exemplary releases. I loved the old stuff back then. Now it sounds a little dated and is not nearly as interesting as the new... |
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I'll have to definitely say then. I can honestly say I only enjoy their first 3 albums. |
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