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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 16:55 [#00402663]
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...is not too satisfying actually. agree or disagree?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-10-13 16:56 [#00402664]
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agree but i dont bother
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-10-13 17:02 [#00402665]
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agree
its one of the things i hate most
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 17:03 [#00402666]
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what do you mean by not bothering?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-10-13 17:04 [#00402668]
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i mean it doesnt bother me if im beeing misunderstood :)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 17:05 [#00402670]
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not at all? that's kinda what i was implying with my question... do you mind being misunderstood? personally i mind. it's not cool at all really. why bother to think, say, or feel anything if your intention isn't going to be understood?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-13 17:06 [#00402671]
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i can relate
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-10-13 17:08 [#00402673]
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if people communicated more clearly with one another, it would be easier - some people just have a certain inability to verbalise.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-10-13 17:11 [#00402675]
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you have a point there, but i mean if a group of people misunderstand me it bothers me, yes
but if just couple of individuals dont get my point, i dont really bother
i hope it makes sense hehe
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 17:11 [#00402676]
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that's me for sure
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 17:13 [#00402678]
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yea it makes sense.. basically you're saying that you don't have the time or motivation to make one or two people understand, but for a larger group you'd compromise
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-10-13 17:15 [#00402681]
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great, no misunderstanding there :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-10-13 17:16 [#00402682]
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i'll add something hehe if im talking just to one person i'll sure make sure he/she understands me
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-13 17:18 [#00402683]
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I don't understand this topic...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 17:19 [#00402685]
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the topic is about people 1) admitting they don't really enjoy people not understanding them or 2) confirming that they really don't care if they are understood or not and/or 3) expressing their thoughts on being misunderstood generally
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-13 17:21 [#00402687]
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so, it's about Pokemon porn?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 17:24 [#00402690]
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in a word: yes
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-10-13 17:24 [#00402691]
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being misunderstood in and of itself i don't find that annoying. perhaps occasionally.
its only when misunderstandings have ramifications that they become annoying or something ?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 17:38 [#00402699]
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why doesn't it annoy you?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-10-13 18:08 [#00402723]
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i don't take it personally
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-13 18:45 [#00402759]
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I've been desensitized to it. I don't relate to anybody, and I go out of my way to be inpenetrable to people. Nobody I know, bar one or two, has any idea what I'm like, the only way they could describe me is ''er... quiet''... no fucking clue. I don't even understand myself... I love it and I'm deliberately difficult, but I hate it and it drives me insane. Ah well. *jerks off
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 18:51 [#00402765]
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i know what you mean, but do you have any idea why you "get off" (so to speak) on being hard for others to understand?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-13 19:02 [#00402781]
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Not a clue... I've just always seemed to be ''odd'', and now I'm so used to it that I just expect it, so I just go with it. I dislike 99.999% of the population, and I kind of go out of my way to seperate myself from them... I kind of ''get off'' on being out of the ordinary.
Of course I get a lot of shit for this, but it's gotten easier over the years because everyone knows that I want nothing to do with them... like I used to be nagged by my mom to go out and do shit, but not anymore...
Overall, it can't be pleasant, cuz I'm not Mr. Happy.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-10-13 19:20 [#00402791]
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No one gets my jokes they think I'm weird and I'm the bloke at work who always gets told to "lay off the crack".
Well actually no they laugh at my jokes most of the time what am I talking about.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 19:36 [#00402794]
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i know what you mean about ppl not getting jokes.. seems like all the ones i tell are over people's heads, either cos of the concept or cos of the references.. and it sucks cos i don't do that on purpose. i always tell jokes hoping and assuming ppl will get them and i usually have to explain them... really takes the humor out of it.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-10-13 20:13 [#00402807]
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people seem to think i'm funnier when i don't mean to be funny
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-10-13 21:58 [#00402847]
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i agree it's NOT satisfying to be misunderstood.....but i wonder if we ever really are understood completely by anyone?
to those who are important to us, friends, families, lovers.....it is perhaps a need and desire to be understood....to know that someone knows what it's like to be in our shoes......
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-13 22:16 [#00402858]
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true...I'd be kinda worried if I was understoof completely...people just ain't that simple, thankfully....
I always think Michael Franti of DHH put it nicely with these lyrics...
"And I'd tell you that I'm suffering from the worst tyoe of loneliness The loneliness of being misunderstood or more poignantly the loneliness of being afraid to allow myself to be understood"
damn, that guy rocks my world...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-13 22:17 [#00402859]
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understoof?...hehe...
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-10-13 22:42 [#00402886]
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ehhehe
we are all complex, wonderful creatures.....aren't we!
sometimes what we want people to understand about us.....is something that we want to believe about ourselves that may or maynot be true. but we're too close to it to see the difference......interesting thought to ponder......
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Asche XL
on 2002-10-13 22:51 [#00402888]
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Ditto
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-13 22:54 [#00402890]
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aww shut up
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 00:39 [#00402968]
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w M w: wait....... i don't understand you. ??????????????? ;)
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-10-14 00:45 [#00402974]
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tits:
as LeC pointed out "if we ever really are understood completely by
anyone? "
I don't think we can, so its just a matter of degree i guess .. there is no way to "KNOW" - its the implications/ramifications to me that are unpleasant ..
although i probably don't understand "THEM" .. ?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 00:47 [#00402976]
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basically i'm just wondering if the people here who claim they don't mind or like it when "normal people" can't/don't understand them TRULY feel unsatisfied with not being understood. i mean, isn't it just human nature to want to be understood? and as i asked earlier, why say or do anything if your intentions aren't going to be understood?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 00:48 [#00402977]
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i don't mean art being understood by everybody (eg: a film should have universal appeal), but in individual interactions
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-10-14 00:49 [#00402978]
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agree !, but i gernerally dislike the world population so i wouldn't have it any other way
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 00:51 [#00402979]
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perhaps you only dislike them cos they don't understand you? bit of an awful cycle there.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-10-14 00:53 [#00402981]
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well true .. but from a pragmatic point of view, you don't have to be fully understood to satisfy your intensions or something.
i mean, i see what you're getting, at. i used to get quite pissed/unsatisfied at people who didn't/couldn't and didn't want to understand me .. especially the latter.
but there will always be things that people misunderstand/don't understand -
perhaps i've more been desensetised than anything else? mmm..
So- what brings about this question? something buggin ya? :)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-10-14 01:49 [#00402995]
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I hate being misunderstood. My boss always seems to misunderstand me. Here's an example: last week he came into my office. I asked him to pass my pen and he proceeded to sodomise me while shouting out his mother's name. This was not the first occasion he has done such a thing. Why does he always misundertand me this way?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-14 09:10 [#00403199]
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''basically i'm just wondering if the people here who claim they don't mind or like it when "normal people" can't/don't understand them TRULY feel unsatisfied with not being understood. i mean, isn't it just human nature to want to be understood? and as i asked earlier, why say or do anything if your intentions aren't going to be understood? ''
I DO mind it, but then again I tend to hate the entire population and they're going to misunderstand me anyway... even if I WANTED to, I couldn't fit in... and I don't want to... I'm doomed to be misunderstood. It has its advantages (I really do enjoy only my OWN company) and its disadvantages... because society isn't built for loners like me, it FORCES you to go and be with people.
One thing I don't understand is people that always seem to need other people around them... I don't get it. And always complain to be bored or something... I get bored around people, but in my own company, I NEVER get bored, ever. Too much music/books/movies/sites/games/etc to stimulate my brain, and nobody around to fuck up and annoy me.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-10-14 09:13 [#00403204]
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'If we really understood eachother, there'd be no need to talk.'
-Robyn Hitchcock
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-10-14 13:30 [#00403402]
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^ ahh.. nice quote .. why couldn't i find those words :)
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-10-14 13:43 [#00403418]
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"Nobody really understands anybody."
-Aaron Funk :)
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-10-14 13:44 [#00403421]
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understanding can be found in the strangest places.
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