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dj bladdered from shitty office UK on 2001-08-22 13:34 [#00024109] | |||||||||
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Im new here, have been coming and going thru AFXs crazy career since the first Bubblebath, but the new singles cool so I looked him up! That 'thing' he does with music now (cut ups within the rythmn, so everything sounds real trippy and you never know whats coming next)....would anyone out there compare him with Zappa? And to follow the comparison, where Zappas fucking about with time signatures etc led to his music often being analysed as 'cold and unemotive', is this happening with AFXs music too? |
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Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-22 13:43 [#00024113] | |||||||||
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Zappa is god!! His music was never 'cold and unemotive', in my humble opinion anyway! They both have a dark humor about them! And yes they do both have odd time sigs etc... Afx and Zappa are both genius's!! Have fun |
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Beef Suit from Butchers on 2001-08-22 13:57 [#00024116] | |||||||||
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I think AFX has lost some of his emotion a bit . . . I don't think he'll ever do anything as beautiful as some of ICBYD was. I think electronic music might be getting a bit too clever for it's own good, too much nerdy mouse-clicking and not enough lushness. That's why BOC cleaned up, cuz their stuff's quite simple but emotional, whereas stuff like Funkstorung etc is very impressive but somehow totally un-engaging. Or maybe I am just getting old and pining for the 'good ol days' like a saggy fuckin granpa. |
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Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-22 14:02 [#00024117] | |||||||||
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I think Afx has always provided a good mix of songs, some more emotional than others, some more technical..... My anticipation of Druqks is getting ridiculous!!!! Have fun |
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dj bladdered from shitty office UK on 2001-08-22 14:41 [#00024122] | |||||||||
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Sound Assassin, no way am I in with the 'cold and unemotive' critique of Zappa, but for many critics the fact that he didnt let his tunes meander on their standard verse-chorus-middle eight way kind of made them think he was just playing math with the music....a bit like AFX does sometimes....dont want the music getting too twitchy.....In is disjointedness, there should also be a flow heres to the new LP then (AFX that is) |
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Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-22 14:47 [#00024123] | |||||||||
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Respect. |
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phiz from Amsterdam on 2001-08-22 15:34 [#00024134] | |||||||||
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i think the difference with Mr Frank Zappa and Aphex is that at least Zappa released a huge amount of his work to the public, whereas Aphex has a huge amount of work just sitting in a dusty vault somewhere never to be released. Zappa was bothered about getting his music out into the world to be listened to, but Aphex couldn't give a shite. Zappa is King!!!! no doubting it. |
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Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-22 15:37 [#00024135] | |||||||||
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Here, here!! Ain't that the truth!! |
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dj bladdered from shitty office UK on 2001-08-22 16:16 [#00024153] | |||||||||
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thats a very interesting point....being new to the forum, I didnt know that AFX was meant to have zillions of tunes tucked away somewhere....however, this rumour once applied to Prince, and upon release the material was widely regarded as drivel (ie same as practically all of his post 'Black Album' output - drivel, that is) Maybe AFX has a stronger quality control drive than Zappa or Prince? Does the world need any more 'You Cant Do That's'....??Could the AFX stuff now sound dated eg what if say Selected Ambient 1 was the unreleased stuff, and it got released now, how would it bear up to say 'Windowlicker'? Just thoughts..... |
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phiz from Amsterdam on 2001-08-22 16:30 [#00024160] | |||||||||
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i'd like the chance to at least hear the stuff he's got tucked away, it might be shit to him, but you know, one mans shit is anothers gold and all that, and now with mp3 and stuff, why not just wack the whole lot out there for free, if he doesnt think it,s worth releasing just give it away. |
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phiz from Amsterdam on 2001-08-22 16:34 [#00024161] | |||||||||
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also, the years leading up to Zappas death he said he had made more music than he has done before on his SynClavier??(anyone know anything about this, i beleive it,s a cuebase type sequencer) he said he has stored huge amounts ready to be released after his death, so even when he is dead, his fans can still listen to new Zappa material. |
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dj bladdered from shitty office UK on 2001-08-22 16:44 [#00024164] | |||||||||
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No idea on the technical aspects of the Synclavier, but it was one of the first samplers I believe - He released an album 'Jazz from Hell' which, with the exception of two tracks, is solely Synclavier based music. IMHO it sucks, so if he's got tons of that stuff, its best left in the vaults (find Jazz From Hell and form your own opinion, but its NOT the Zappa you'd expect - what a contradiction in terms that phrase is!!) I agree, whack it all out on MP3, but if you were shelling out for it, maybe things would be different Rgds to the 'Dam - what a top city |
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Bulworth on 2001-08-22 16:54 [#00024167] | |||||||||
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I've been meaning to buy a Zappa album for quite some time now, but have always been daunted by the size of his moustache (back catalogue). Where to start? Cheap Thrills? |
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dj bladdered from shitty office UK on 2001-08-22 17:13 [#00024177] | |||||||||
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Whoo! Some question! I wouldnt go with 'Cheap Thrills' cos its his 'humorous' side that is showcased here, and his music is far richer than whats on offer on this showcase. Suggestions; You Are What You Is, or Sheik Yerbhouti Give you a feel for Zappa's 1976-1980 period (maybe his best band) One Size Fits All Overnite Sensation Show his 1973 -75 band off to good effect; If you take the plunge with the later stuff, and like it, my advice is WORK BACKWARDS CHRONOLOGICALLY from here Try a Zappa website then if you get hooked...hope you dont hit the dross first and get put off..... |
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Sound Assassin from The studio on 2001-08-22 19:00 [#00024199] | |||||||||
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Hot rats is quite a good album to start on aswell as the above! Peaches Enregalia is a superb track off Hot Rats. It's almost like Aphex Twin but played with real instruments! Have fun. |
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