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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 17:11 [#00378640]
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Ezy... sorry if I'm trampling old ground here... but doesn't all this talk of 911, global conspiracies, war, and general nastiness make you wanna get out of your brain in an attempt to fathom some truth about your own existenz?
I've got a massive bag of Salvia at home, that hasn't been touched for a few weeks.... anyone want some?!
I tried it for the first time at Glastonbury this year. N.B. Glastonbury (although the greatest festival on earth) is NOT the place to be doing vast quanities of Salvia. Having said that... it was wicked... VERY scary... but wicked!
During my most intense trip I believed that I had become part of a huge zip that ran the length of the field that I was sat in...and that the zipper was being slowly pulled down, over my face and then the rest of my body... I could see, hear, and feel all of this as if it were totally real. It was one of the most bizarre experiences I have ever had.
The key to getting the full effect of The Diviner is to do it through a bong with a turbo lighter (the higher the temp the better)... and HOLD IT IN for as long as possible... at least 20seconds. You need to get the full dose into your blood within 90 secs otherwise it starts to metabolise.
Everyone should see the world from a different perspective at least twice.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-09-04 17:13 [#00378642]
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What's salvia? I thought you had mis-spelt "saliva" until the second time it appeared :)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 17:13 [#00378643]
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Salvia always failed to work on me. I'll try what you say dude.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-04 17:13 [#00378644]
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wow that's some first post !
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 17:16 [#00378647]
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Salvia divinorum is a plant from mexico that has been called 'the most powerful hallucenogen on the planet'
Its legal everywhere except Australia... and its widely available...
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2002-09-04 17:17 [#00378648]
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this herb will make an atheist eat his lunch.
Not to say that it will prove the existence of God but it does prove the existence of other dimensions.
Akkad
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-09-04 17:19 [#00378649]
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I thought DMT was the most potent (and probably least harmful) of the hallucinogens?
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 17:19 [#00378650]
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It proves that our perception of reality isn't necessarily the way things truely are, but I'm not sure that it proves the existence of other dimensions... what is another dimension?!
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 17:23 [#00378654]
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I dunno much about DMT (or anything), but I know that I've done a fair amount of hallucenogenic drugs and NEVER come close... not even slightly close, to what I experienced with Salvia.
And as for harmful effects... All the research I have read and performed on myself, leads me to believe that it is harmless. The hardcore part of the trip is over in about 4 mins. and it has totally passed in about an hour. The following few days I felt VERY good about everything. It was weird!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-09-04 17:29 [#00378660]
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Sounds cool. And it's legal :)
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2002-09-04 18:07 [#00378698]
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Other dimensions are experienced with hightened states of awareness. i.e.
seeing things that are so real yet surreal that you can't believe what you just saw.
A k k a d
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 10:16 [#00379955]
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I really don't think that 'hightened states of awareness' constitute other dimensions. Caffine causes hightened states of awareness and I doubt most coffee drinkers would say that they had just visited another dimension every time they finished a cuppuchino!
Surely experiencing things that 'are so real yet surreal' could simply mean that your brain is tricked into thinking/feeling something that isn't there?
e.g. People that have had limbs removed often experience 'phantom limbs' where there (perfectly normal) brain believes (and hence forces them to believe) that the missing limb is still there. And they often attempt to use it as normal... this can happen years after the amputation.
Just because we can see and feel things that others can't, does NOT mean that we have glimpsed another dimension.
Another dimension, for me, would be a place unlike any that we know, that is complete in itself, and that many indepentant observers can experience. Not a trick played on your senses by a chemical.
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j bennion
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 10:28 [#00379962]
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salvia is one of my favourate drugs... i only tuned into it recently myself, you do need to do alot of it though- i farted about doing small ammounts -- you should stoke the bong up nice and fat and then blaze up until you think your heads a cabbage- believe me thats what its like, v v strange.......
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