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offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 17:11 [#00378640]
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Ezy... sorry if I'm trampling old ground here... but
doesn't all this talk of 911, global conspiracies, war, and
general nastiness make you wanna get out of your brain in an
attempt to fathom some truth about your own existenz?

I've got a massive bag of Salvia at home, that hasn't been
touched for a few weeks.... anyone want some?!

I tried it for the first time at Glastonbury this year. N.B.
Glastonbury (although the greatest festival on earth) is NOT
the place to be doing vast quanities of Salvia. Having said
that... it was wicked... VERY scary... but wicked!

During my most intense trip I believed that I had become
part of a huge zip that ran the length of the field that I
was sat in...and that the zipper was being slowly pulled
down, over my face and then the rest of my body... I could
see, hear, and feel all of this as if it were totally real.
It was one of the most bizarre experiences I have ever had.


The key to getting the full effect of The Diviner is to do
it through a bong with a turbo lighter (the higher the temp
the better)... and HOLD IT IN for as long as possible... at
least 20seconds. You need to get the full dose into your
blood within 90 secs otherwise it starts to metabolise.

Everyone should see the world from a different perspective
at least twice.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-09-04 17:13 [#00378642]
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What's salvia?
I thought you had mis-spelt "saliva" until the second time
it appeared :)


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 17:13 [#00378643]
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Salvia always failed to work on me. I'll try what you say
dude.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-04 17:13 [#00378644]
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wow that's some first post !


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 17:16 [#00378647]
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Salvia divinorum is a plant from mexico that has been called
'the most powerful hallucenogen on the planet'

Its legal everywhere except Australia... and its widely
available...


 

offline Atop from Texas (United States) on 2002-09-04 17:17 [#00378648]
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this herb will make an atheist eat his lunch.

Not to say that it will prove the existence of God but it
does prove the existence of other dimensions.

Akkad


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-09-04 17:19 [#00378649]
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I thought DMT was the most potent (and probably least
harmful) of the hallucinogens?


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 17:19 [#00378650]
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It proves that our perception of reality isn't necessarily
the way things truely are, but I'm not sure that it proves
the existence of other dimensions... what is another
dimension?!


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 17:23 [#00378654]
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I dunno much about DMT (or anything), but I know that I've
done a fair amount of hallucenogenic drugs and NEVER come
close... not even slightly close, to what I experienced with
Salvia.

And as for harmful effects...
All the research I have read and performed on myself, leads
me to believe that it is harmless. The hardcore part of the
trip is over in about 4 mins. and it has totally passed in
about an hour. The following few days I felt VERY good about
everything. It was weird!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-09-04 17:29 [#00378660]
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Sounds cool. And it's legal :)


 

offline Atop from Texas (United States) on 2002-09-04 18:07 [#00378698]
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Other dimensions are experienced with hightened states of
awareness. i.e.
seeing things that are so real yet surreal that you can't
believe what you just saw.

A k k a d


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 10:16 [#00379955]
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I really don't think that 'hightened states of awareness'
constitute other dimensions. Caffine causes hightened states
of awareness and I doubt most coffee drinkers would say that
they had just visited another dimension every time they
finished a cuppuchino!

Surely experiencing things that 'are so real yet surreal'
could simply mean that your brain is tricked into
thinking/feeling something that isn't there?

e.g. People that have had limbs removed often experience
'phantom limbs' where there (perfectly normal) brain
believes (and hence forces them to believe) that the missing
limb is still there. And they often attempt to use it as
normal... this can happen years after the amputation.

Just because we can see and feel things that others can't,
does NOT mean that we have glimpsed another dimension.

Another dimension, for me, would be a place unlike any that
we know, that is complete in itself, and that many
indepentant observers can experience. Not a trick played on
your senses by a chemical.


 

offline j bennion from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 10:28 [#00379962]
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salvia is one of my favourate drugs... i only tuned into it
recently myself, you do need to do alot of it though- i
farted about doing small ammounts -- you should stoke the
bong up nice and fat and then blaze up until you think your
heads a cabbage- believe me thats what its like, v v
strange.......


 


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