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After killing nearly 10,000 innocent people in Afghanistan, Detaining thousands in America, trampling over civil right and human right of American citizens and Bullshit PR torture excercises like Camp Xray.. this is what the US officials have to say for themselves Sept 11 plotters at large: weekly By Our Correspondent NEW YORK, Sept 2: American investigators, who have spent months trying to unravel the plot that resulted in the attacks on New York City and Washington, are worried about key figures in the Sept 11 conspiracy who got way, and are planning more attacks against the United States. CIA officials told Newsweek magazine that they include Khaled Shaikh Mohammed and others who are on a mission to destroy America, and at least three other men whom investigators have identified as the planners and financiers of the attacks. "They are believed to be in hiding, where they may be planning future strikes," the magazine says. "Sept 11 demonstrated to us that you don't need a large number of people or a huge infrastructure to do a lot of damage. There are still a lot of people out there who can do some real harm." The magazine said that the investigators have reason to believe that Mohammed is not only alive, but hard at work. US officials said they have evidence linking Mohammed to the April bombing of a synagogue in Tunisia, which killed 21 people. The suicide bomber phoned Mohammed just three hours before blowing himself up. A senior official told Newsweek that US intelligence believes Mohammed had a powerful collaborator in planning the strike: Saad bin Laden, a son of Osama bin Laden. Agents didn't realize just how important Mohammed was in planning the Sept 11 attacks until April this year, when they captured Abu Zubaydah. Inside Zubaydah's safe house, they discovered a large cache of information about the plot, and sources said Zubaydah himself confirmed to investigators that Mohammed was one of the key Sept 11 conspirators |
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can anyone else smell the fumes of bullshit rising?? |
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"Muthafucka Uncle Sam!! Step back!! I know who i am." Soopid Amerikans... |
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america started a fight against terorism after last september but imo they made a huge step back, and nothing against preventing same thing to happen again i guess they just don't want to realize that |
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Any idiot can kill a lot of people, it takes intelligence to really solve problems that cause the terrorism. |
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Where I live on a college campus, I haven't heard much besides 'give us peace', and generally 'let it be - let's settle this without revenge', but traveling tells me the spirit of 'kill them! kill them all!' is still alive and well. I keep thinking it's dying down, but really I don't know when it's going to end. Soon, I hope. It never looked like fighting terrorism to me, just starting wars. |
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I know the dissenting public opinion in US is getting smothered..luckily..people like me regularly visit sites like the Paper Tiger..and hear and see thatthe anti war sentiment of exists quite widely in the US... |
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blind blind blind blind blind blind blind blind blind blind blind blnid blind blind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Novus Ordo Seclorum is latin for New WORLD order read it on the back of the American dollar! The elite don't like the middle east, now the U.S. is going to take over iraq, they're going to say these new "leaders" of the Al Qaeda live there adn we're going to bomb the shit out of thier country and then the rest of the MidEast while Israel sits there and gets mangled by all the countries around it, WATCH. The buildings were destroyed by rich WHITE men. not Arabs, they did it to start ww3. so that they can eventually run the world. and if you don't believe me now, you will in three years. I hate being Cassandra, no one ever believes me. A k k a d |
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is worth reading if you're interested in US foreign policy. 9/11 didn't emerge from a vacuum. To paraphrase Kids in the Hall, what you are about to read may TERRIFY you. |
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my post is much more frightening. just cause I don't have a bunch of links. read Beold a Pale Horse or Rule by Secrecy, they've got all the backing of any good web site with bibliographies to support everything they say. A k k a d |
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It would be great if the media was allowed to print that story in the US newspapers... |
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atop/akkad: I will look into those books... I was just checking out Pale Horse at Barnes and Noble. Please tell me he doesn't go off about UFOs and subterranean reptoids though... |
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On second thought, which confirms exactly what I suspected: it's full of UFO and numerological nutcase gibberish. Read the review titled "laughable". Is that crap really in there? Don't waste my time. The world is scary enough without paranoid dickhead fantasies. |
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Thanks fleetmouse these links are always appreciated keep spreading the truth my friend |
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I've read in different newspapers high brow and tabloid, that the CIA are trying to make sure there won't be another 9/11, well I checked my calendar this morning and there's another one coming pretty soon.....when will they ever learn? |
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Hey Fleetmouse did you even read any of the other reviews? Plenty of people have seen UFO's, what makes them so unbelievable for you? I know several people that have seen them, I my self haven't but have had some experiences as a child that I won't go into right now. He talks about numbers because there are people who believe in the extreme importance of them as a universal language(BoC, Pythagoras, Secret Societites) and the main reason most of us don't believe in these is cause of movies like ET, Close Encounters, and shows like the X-Files. People are using reverse psychology to make everything "paranormal" seem false through fictionalization of the subjects. There are wierd cases that police departments and the FBI deal with all the time, they are not made public because of the implications it would have if they were well-known, the distruction of religions is the most important one that leaders want to keep intact. Why don't you read the book anyways and make up your own mind. There aren't any reptiles mentioned in it. A k k a d |
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at least most of you are lucky you won't be living here next wednesday... EVERYBODY CRY FOR THESE PEOPLE! AMERICA WILL NEVER FORGET! GEORGE W. BUSH IS AN ALRIGHT GUY, REALLY, HE IS! LET'S CONGRATULATE HIM FOR NOT FINDING A GUY WHO'S BEEN HIDING IN A FUCKING CAVE FOR HALF A YEAR! HURRAH! LORD OF THE RINGS 2 BAD! i hate america |
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me too man. and all governments for that matter! Akkad |
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Jivver >:D place your bets on when the first bomb lands on Baghdad Sept 10th (Bush : "Today we all pray that evil dosn't come for us again tomorrow" Sept 11th (Blair : "I speak for everyone, everywhere when I say that we all feel American, we feel their pain, their sadness, their thirst for blood" Sept 12th (a day to "Move on with our lives" ie. despatch our missiles to the Gulf) Sept 13th (a day for Blair to announce that he is going to do "Whats right for everyone, everywhere" depite 99% of people begging him not to.... Sept 14th (a day for a red-glowing eyed Bush to grasp his tiny greasy oil-tower & declare "I just can't wait any longer mmmUuuuUUhhhh!") |
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Akkad: In the 80s christian groups started promoting the notion that cults of satanic child molesters were everywhere, on the basis of flimsy, nonexistent or laughable "evidence". Actually the lack of evidence has been touted as the most damning evidence of all--it just shows how well the conspiracy is organized! I don't believe their baloney and I don't believe yours. But it does make me wonder where they fit into your conspiracy chart and where you fit into theirs. :-) One thing would interest me and that is compelling evidence. "lots of people have seen ufos" and "I've experienced things I won't go into" are not compelling evidence. Lots of people have seen Jesus in a taco shell or the Virgin Mary loafing about various grottoes, and I don't believe them whether they will talk about it or not. Personally I have to wonder whether or not people like Cooper are put in place to discredit conspiracy theorists who DO have plausible, well supported cases. I'm sure the boards of directors of major corporations would rather have you mooning after aliens than going over their balance sheets, or investigating which branches of government they're paying off to have friendly dictators installed and maintained in countries where they have sweatshops or oil fields... |
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when will people start waking up? america's government killed everyone on september 11. |
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Why the hell are you stupid motherfuckers blaming America for 9/11. It doesn't look like America started the bombing does it? Sure some of you incredibly biased cuntcaskets with your heads shoved up your ass will say that 'America had it coming.' But what the hell, look at fucking Israel, the extremist Arabs hate us and will do anything to kill us and break our society down. So now I see people post shit about we shouldn't be going to war. What the fuck are you thinking, sit on our big fat asses and let us get hit again. No, we need to go hit them, and you might kill civilians in the fucking process. Yeah, too many civilians have been killed in this shit and something should be done about it, but you can't drop a bomb and say 'Hey this guy sucks kill him but not the other people.' It's gonna kill everyone around it. So if you want to kill the retards you're gonna have to bring some innocents down too unfortunately. And as for the Iraq case, you think Saddam should love? Do any of you retards have any idea what he would do if he got nuclear weaponry. He knows how to build them, all he needs to do is get the stuff to build it and we would be the Amalgamate Council of Iraq for Christ's sake. And the final issue, you stupid European asshats saying America sucks, down with America. What is your problem? America has helped countless other countries, and America has fucked up too. Not like your stupid country is squeaky clean (Except for Switzerland, do they ever do anything). So shut the fuck up until you can get your facts straight. There's probably a reason America has immigration problems (and not just from Mexico). |
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hey guys..I am currently reading the John Pilger book "The New Rulers of the World"..I have scanned in the first few pages of the chapter on Iraq..this is about the Depleted Uranium and it's cancer spreading effects..on the children still being born.. PAYING THE PRICE We do not seek the destruction of Iraq. Nor do we seek to punish the Iraqi people for the decisions and policies of their leaders. President George Bush Senior We think the price is worth it... US Ambassador Madeleine Albright, when asked if the deaths of half a million Iraqi children were a price worth paying for sanctions They know we own their country ... we dictate the way they live and talk. And that's what's great about America right now. It's a good thing, especially when there's a lot of oil out there we need. Brigadier-General William Loonev, US air force, director of the bombing of Iraq Wherever you go in Iraq's southern city of Basra, there is dust. It rolls down the long roads that are the desert's fingers. It gets in your eyes and nose and throat; it swirls in markets and school playgrounds, consuming children kicking a plastic ball; and it carries, according to Dr Jawad Al-Ali, 'the seeds of our death*. Dr Al-Ali is a cancer specialist at the city hospital and a member of Britain's Royal College of Physicians. He has a neat moustache and a kindly, furrowed face. His starched white coat, like the collar of his shirt, is frayed. 'Before the Gulf War, we had only three or four deaths in a month from cancer,' he said. 'Now it's thirty to thirty-five patients dying every month, and that's just in my department. That is twelve times the increase in the cancer mortality. Our studies indicate that 40 to 48 per cent of the population in this area will get cancer: in five years' time to begin with, then long afterwards. That's almost half the population. Most of my own family now have cancer, and we have no history of the disease. It has spread to the medical staff of this hospital; yesterday, the son of the medica |
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. Most of my own family now have cancer, and we have no history of the disease. It has spread to the medical staff of this hospital; yesterday, the son of the medical director died. We don't know the precise source of the contamination, because we are not allowed to get the equipment to conduct a proper survey, or even test the excess level of radiation in our bodies. We strongly suspect depleted uranium, which was used by the Americans and British in the Gulf War right across the southern battlefields. Whatever the cause, it is like Chernobyl here; the genetic effects are new to us. The mushrooms grow huge, and the fish in what was once a beautiful river are inedible. Even the grapes in my garden have mutated and can't be eaten." Along the corridor, I met Dr Ginan Ghalib Hassen, a paediatrician. At another time, she might have been described as an effervescent personality; now she, too, has a melancholy expression that does not change; it is the face of Iraq. 'This is Ali Raffa Asswadi,' she said, stopping to take the hand of a wasted boy I guessed to be about four years old. 'He is nine years,' she said. 'He has leukaemia. Now we can't treat him. Only some of the drugs are available. We get drugs for two or three weeks, and then they stop when the shipments stop. Unless you continue a course, the treatment is useless. We can't even give blood transfusions, because there are not enough blood bags . . .' In the next bed, a child lay in his shrouded mother's arms. One side of his head was severely swollen. 'This is neuroplastoma,' said Dr Hassen. 'It is a very unusual tumour. Before 1991, we saw only one case of this tumour in two years. Now we have many cases.' Another child had his eyes fixed on me and I asked what would happen to him. She said, 'He has an abdominal mass. We have operated on him, but unless the tumour receives treatment, it will recur. We have only some drugs. We are waiting for the full course. He has renal failure now, so his future is bad. All the futures here are bad.' D |
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Dr Hassen keeps a photo album of the children she is trying to save and has been unable to save. 'This is Talum Saleh,' she said, turning to a photograph of a boy in a blue pullover and with sparkling eyes. 'He is five-and-a-half years old. This is a case of Hodgkin's Disease. Normally, with Hodgkin's, a patient can expect to live and the cure can be 95 per cent. But if the drugs are not available, complications set in, and death follows. This boy had a beautiful nature. He died.' I said, 'As we were walking, I noticed you stop and put your face to the wall.' 'Yes, I was emotional ... I am a doctor; I am not supposed to cry, but I cry every day, because this is torture. These children could live; they could live and grow up; and when you see your son and daughter in front of you, dying, what happens to you I said, 'What do you say to those in the West who deny the connection between depleted uranium and the deformities of these children?' 'That is not true. How much proof do they want? There is every relation between congenital malformation and depleted uranium. Before 1991, we saw nothing like this at all. If there is no connection, why have these things not happened before? Most of these children have no family history of cancer. I have studied what happened in Hiroshima. It is almost exactly the same here; we have an increased percentage of congenital malformation, an increase of malignancy, leukaemia, brain tumours: the same.'2 Under the economic embargo imposed by the United Nations Security Council in 1990 and upgraded the following year, Iraq is denied equipment and expertise to decontaminate its battlefields, in contrast to how Kuwait was cleaned up after the Gulf War. The US army physicist responsible for cleaning up Kuwait was Professor Doug Rokke, whom I met in London. Today, he himself is a victim. 'I am like many people in southern Iraq,' he said. 'I have 5,000 times the recommended level of radiation in my body. The contamination was right throughout Iraq and Kuwait. With the mun |
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The contamination was right throughout Iraq and Kuwait. With the munitions testing and preparation in Saudi Arabia, uranium contamination covers the entire region. The effect depends on whether a person inhaled it or ingested it by eating and drinking, or if they got it in an open wound. What we're seeing now, respiratory problems, kidney problems, cancers, are the direct result of the use of this highly toxic material. The controversy over whether or not it's the cause is a manufactured one; my own ill-health is testament to that.' Professor Rokke says there are two urgent issues to be confronted by people in the West, 'those with a sense of right and wrong': first, the decision by the United States and Britain to use a 'weapon of mass destruction', such as depleted uranium. He said 'In the Gulf War, well over 300 tons were fired. An A-10 Warthog attack aircraft fired over 900,000 rounds. Each individual round was 300 grams of solid uranium 238. When a tank fired its shells, each round carried over 4,500 grams of solid uranium. These rounds are not coated, they're not tipped; they're solid uranium. Moreover, we have evidence to suggest that they were mixed with plutonium. What happened in the Gulf was a form of nuclear warfare. 'The second issue is the denial of medical care to American and British and other allied soldiers, and the tens of thousands of Iraqis contaminated. At international symposiums, I have watched Iraqi officials approach their counterparts from the Department of Defence and the Ministry of Defence and ask, plead, for help with decontamination. The Iraqis didn't use depleted uranium; it was not their weapon. They simply don't know how to get rid of it from their environment. I watched them put their case, describing the deaths and the horrific deformities that are showing up; and I watched them rebuffed. It was pathetic.'3 The United Nations Sanctions Committee in New York, dominated by the Americans and British, has vetoed or delayed a range of vital medical equipment, chemo |
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oopsss I have stuffed that up sorry |
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The contamination was right throughout Iraq and Kuwait. With the munitions testing and preparation in Saudi Arabia, uranium contamination covers the entire region. The effect depends on whether a person inhaled it or ingested it by eating and drinking, or if they got it in an open wound. What we're seeing now, respiratory problems, kidney problems, cancers, are the direct result of the use of this highly toxic material. The controversy over whether or not it's the cause is a manufactured one; my own ill-health is testament to that.' Professor Rokke says there are two urgent issues to be confronted by people in the West, 'those with a sense of right and wrong': first, the decision by the United States and Britain to use a 'weapon of mass destruction', such as depleted uranium. He said 'In the Gulf War, well over 300 tons were fired. An A-10 Warthog attack aircraft fired over 900,000 rounds. Each individual round was 300 grams of solid uranium 238. When a tank fired its shells, each round carried over 4,500 grams of solid uranium. These rounds are not coated, they're not tipped; they're solid uranium. Moreover, we have evidence to suggest that they were mixed with plutonium. What happened in the Gulf was a form of nuclear warfare. 'The second issue is the denial of medical care to American and British and other allied soldiers, and the tens of thousands of Iraqis contaminated. At international symposiums, I have watched Iraqi officials approach their counterparts from the Department of Defence and the Ministry of Defence and ask, plead, for help with decontamination. The Iraqis didn't use depleted uranium; it was not their weapon. They simply don't know how to get rid of it from their environment. I watched them put their case, describing the deaths and the horrific deformities that are showing up; and I watched them rebuffed. It was pathetic.'3 The United Nations Sanctions Committee in New York, dominated by the Americans and British, has vetoed or delayed a range of vital medical equipment, chemo |
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argh..I give up..but most of it is there..except for some repetitions.. mucho sorry everyone |
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time will tell. |
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the only reason why europeans are against war wiht Iraq is because their countires have been in business with Iraq while the US has had a trade embargo. saddam hussein has proven time and again he can care less about his people and will let them starve and murder them, so he has nothing to lose using his nukes and chemicalsm against what most of you say that he has no intent to use them. so america is not this evil empire against everyone , yes every govt has its faults but wait until america listens to all you liberal europeans and then you get attacked on your own soil then the first thing out of your mouths will be " where were the Americans" then who will have the last laugh. think twice before you guys just bash America. how can u even dismiss 9/11.. over 3000 people died, mothers, fathers , children all working hard to make a living and were murdered for living their lives. and you have the nerve to say we deserve it for killing civilians during war? how dare you ignore the lives of those dead. its ashame for any civilians to die in a war they have no part in, but for you to say some of the things you say is heartless and plain wrong. |
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you know, automatically and consistently believing the opposite of the 'mainstream' media, just because it is mainstream doesn't make you some independant thinker in fact instincitvely believeing the opposite, somtimes with very little evidence, only blind cynicism, makes you just as mindless as those who blindly follow CNN bending facts, twisting words, and putting a spin on news [in other words PROPOGANDA] and events to support a counter-culture, anti-american, or left-wing agenda is just as DISGUSTING and pisses me off just as much as the mainstream media's propoganda just because the United States has commited crimes and antrocities, and continues to do so, and is violent and war-like and obviously lies to their people and the world to accomplish corrupt hidden agendas..... (which i completely agree with) .....does NOT mean that Saddam Husien is some saint whos being taken advantage of true, he is being demonetized by the american (and western in general) media..... but that doesn't change the fact that he he has a long case-history of trying to make WMD, invading countries completely unprovoked, having people killed....... and oh yes, GASSING his own population.. etc... please dont respond with a bunch of "Oh, but the U.S. does bad stuff too" cus i know it does, and i know they have hidden motives for going after saddam unfortunately, that doesn't change the facts about saddam the facts that justify "removing him from power", even if the attacking countries motivations are unjust an oil company making a tonne of money is still better than saddam having fun with his weapons... ask people in israel, who actually have to worry about his obvious hiding shit from the U.N., and his obvious willingness to use it...... and im sure they dont care that the motivations behind taking him out may not be just |
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" the extremist Arabs hate us and will do anything to kill us and break our society down" and why is that? "So if you want to kill the retards you're gonna have to bring some innocents down too unfortunately." this to me sounds like you've really been sucking up the propaganda. I would agree with you at least partly if the bombings had gotten 'the guy'- but they haven't. my point is, bombing won't work. you're just killing random groups of people, hoping your getting the right ones. "He knows how to build them, all he needs to do is get the stuff to build" oh come on! you don't think he hasn't already got nuclear weapons, do you? each year thousands of kilos of plutonium simply vanish - get sold on the black market. "There's probably a reason America has immigration problems (and not just from Mexico). " all the countries in Europe have large immigration problems. whats your point? |
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The only way any of us will get hard evidence of the existence of conspiracies, is if we do some investigation ourselves, and most of us are not willing to go that far. The govenmrents will never tell us the truth, they want us to believe in what they say which that all conspiracy is false and that Kennedy was killed by one man, the bullet did not come from the front. He fell back and to the left. if there is one conspiracy, then there are many, that is logic. Akkad |
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Clearly the American Govt is shady in many ways... but it's all too easy to come up with conspiracy therories that aren't based on fact. That's just lazy and kind of stupid? There's enough REAL stuff going on that is bad, without making up some big amegeddon bullshit. |
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USA is an imperialist nation {FACT} USA supports dictatorships who trade oil for arms {FACT} USA supplied chemical warfare agents to Iraq 6 years after Iraq started using it on the Kurds {FACT} USA used biological warfare on Iraq by deliberately bombing clean water supplies & pipelines. This (obviously) lead to 10,000's contracting cholera, typhoid & dysentery.... (I call that biological warfare.. it was deliberate) {FACT} USA killed 250,000 innocent kids in Iraq , and 1.4 million people overall through medical sanctions and bombings 1990-2002 {FACT} Tony Blair and George Bush ARE the antichrist {MERELY AN OPINION OF MINE} |
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Its sad that these American loyalists call everyone else "Retards" , and assume we must all be Saddams' golf buddies just cause we don't want a protracted globally de-stabilising war which will play on everyones worst instincts and murder 10,000's more REAL INNOCENT HUMAN LIVES. you've got to remember that USA & UK have been trying to "Get" Saddam for 12 years now, and all you have to show for it is 1.4 million dead civilians. Is it worth killing the other 20 million that stand between you & "Mr Evil" ? You "Collateral damage" apologists are an insult to humanity. The real war is much deeper and more complex than you gun-happy jerks allow your TV fed brains to fathom. Why does the arab world hate you ? Not because they are jealous of your freedom ; but because you deny them theirs . Quit killing and accept that you're governments are responsible for the mess you've wound up in... Deal with it responsibly. OK sorry, you'd rather live in denial ZZzzzz.... |
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AMinal..what you got there WAS from mainstream media..so I dont know where you are coming from..as is this Extracts - Bush To Deliver 9/11 Speech 04/09/2002 10:13 AM Reuters WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W Bush will give a prime-time speech on September 11 to honour those who died in the attacks and to discuss the "task that lies ahead" in the war on terrorism, the White House says. Bush will mark the anniversary by visiting the Pentagon, the World Trade Centre in New York, and the Shanksville, Pennsylvania, field - the sites where four hijacked aircraft crashed on September 11, killing about 3,000 people in a day of mayhem, death and grief in the United States. Bush launched the US war on terrorism by toppling the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, which harboured accused September 11 mastermind Saudi exile Osama bin Laden. There is growing debate in Washington on whether to take the war to Iraq, which Bush accuses of developing weapons of mass destruction The fourth hijacked jet, which some believe was intended for the White House or the Capitol, smashed into a Pennsylvania field after an uprising by the passengers. Relatives of some passengers on United Airlines flight 93, who took on the hijackers after learning of the other attacks in cellphone conversations, have complained that Bush has not visited the Pennsylvania crash site. "Those who were here at the White House that day feel strongly about honouring those who gave their lives that day on flight 93, particularly given the fact that most of us view that as saving the lives of those who were here at the White House that day," McClellan told reporters. |
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From all of the nuclear powers on this earth... who is the 'psycho'. 'madman', 'mentalist' that gas used this power? The UK can blow up the earth 20 times over, the french 12 times, the russians 5 times...... you can only neeed to do t once! I only now one nation that used the 'h' bomb....who is the psycho? I'd prefer old style battle where you fight physically for the the truth! who wants to figh't now! |
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so what do you think of a leader that is using the anniversersy of a mass tragic event to perpetuate further tragic events. how much does he actually care about the victims?? not much really. |
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uh just to let you know novus ordo seclorum means New Order of the Ages Not new world order |
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<---- latin scholar |
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damn i wanna enroll in that nudist University |
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bottom line is everybody felt for the 3000 people who died on 9/11 (at least I do). it was senseless and awful. but then saying that to catch one evil mastermind you can kill 2000 civilians, just after you've wept over the 3000 casualties of 9/11 seems completely insane to me.. |
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God, its sickening how much information is kept from the public. |
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well over 3000 died in the first month of bombing in my home country..Afghanistan...and the vengence for the 3000 on 9/11 has been reaped many folds right there in afghanistan...unofficial figures reaching..like I said 10,000... what did those people do to anyone in America???werent they people?? or more like unpeople as Pilger say..I am yet to see anyone anywhere in the world shed a tear for them..let alone in America... and well a million down and still dying in Iraq.. 9/11 was tragic but when is this blood lust gonna be sated???... |
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i suppose i should be posting either a long ass text that no one will read or a bunch of links that people will close once they've realized that there aren't any naked women on them... i agree with a lot of what's been said here... but the bottom line is what the fuck should we do? we can't sit here taking television and internet like cheap drugs until the u.s.a. owns the world... and at the same time i can't see any actual action anyone could take that wouldn't be considered an "act of terrorism" so you've all got all this fucking knowledge so would one of you fucking think up a reasonable solution? and if you could please keep it inside one post- 'cause if it isn't i won't read it i have "a.d.d." |
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summary of an article I read The Boeing 757 and 767 are the only two Boeings capable of fully automated flight - take off, flight, landing. They can be flown entirely without a pilot at the cockpit. There software limits them to roughly 1.5Gs - a cockpit pilot CANNOT override that AT ALL - it CAN be overridden when flown automatedly. The plane that hit the Pentagon (if it WAS a chartered plane as claimed) pulled between 5 and 7 Gs on its final turn... The 2nd plane that hit the WTC also pulled between 5 and 7 Gs. The only conclusion from this is: the planes were being flown via Remote Control... 2nd piece of evidence The flight recorders, with undamaged tape, came up blank. When the plane is flown via Remote Control, the microphone output is re-routed to the people doing the Remote Controlling, presumably so that the Recording is kept safe. However, the tape will keep going round on a half-hour loop, meaning that the tape will be blank. Conclusion: the planes were being flown by Remote Control. |
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and the room goes silent... i'm very dissapointed in all of you, it's suprisingly easy to be a well informed pecimist these days- but don't think that you're helping anyone by sharing the "truth"- you help people by HELPING THEM, don't get me wrong, i love this community and all- but you can't post some stupid shit about airplanes and salvia divinorum on here and think that you're making any sort of tangible difference... and now i'm gonna go off and be mad at myself for being a pessimist then i think i'll go to law school so i can learn how to properly fuck over poor third world countries run by oil tycoons good night |
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< IMHO -How about we try Bush and his counterparts like Dick Cheney and throw in Sanctions promoting UK Tony Blair in the Hauge by the World Court for crimes against humanity? Put them on show in a camp like Camp Xray. But then wouldnt the mighty USA invade Holland...and distort the course of real justice to free its political prisoners? Marlowe: excellent point (Red, wife of FLEA) |
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