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ross on 2001-08-17 03:16 [#00022521] | |||||||||
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how long are your cd's usually? i have the problem of making short cds..the longest one ive made is 35 minutes..recent is about 21 minutes..i mean, the cds have good material, but i cant make long tracks.. |
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hevquip from a hawks colon on 2001-08-17 03:22 [#00022524] | |||||||||
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cylob puts out short stuff. it's not really about how long the song is anyway, it's about the song itself. if it's good, it doesn't matter how long it is really. i kind of like short songs more. |
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Geonime from here on 2001-08-17 03:31 [#00022529] | |||||||||
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Length is an issue. I don't mind how short an album is, I wouldn't mind if it was 10 minutes long just as long as the songs themselves are good. People SHOULDN'T purposely increase the length/quantity of their songs just to make the album longer, as it may result in the songs being worse, or the album full of bad songs. Most of the songs I've done are about 2:00 or less, but I have done longer ones. |
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hevquip from a hawks colon on 2001-08-17 03:49 [#00022530] | |||||||||
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the only problem with short albums is that people feel ripped off when they pay alot for them. |
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Aron? from Canada on 2001-08-17 04:12 [#00022539] | |||||||||
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My Nuphics EP is only about 20 minutes in length, but it's just an EP, not a full album... |
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Aron? from Canada on 2001-08-17 04:13 [#00022540] | |||||||||
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Whoops: It's called the nuphobics ep, not the nuphics ep. |
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Aron? from Canada on 2001-08-17 04:14 [#00022541] | |||||||||
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FUCK ME! It is Nuphonics ep, not huphobics or nuphics! |
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ross on 2001-08-17 08:36 [#00022566] | |||||||||
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im thinking of putting my newest on those mini-cds..so it would coincide well i think..the songs are all of good quality, so you guys are right when you say it shouldnt matter how long..longest song on my new cd is 2:35..shortest 1:10 |
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ross on 2001-08-17 08:36 [#00022567] | |||||||||
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Aron, im hesitant to call my newest an ep too, though my last was an ep as well..my new cd has 13 tracks though |
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rob fragilenine from tafe on 2001-08-17 08:43 [#00022568] | |||||||||
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negative alpha index - experiments in electronica: 10 tracks, ~55 minutes. fragilenine - multi-timbral: 14 tracks, ~58 minutes. test signal - ts e.p.: 6 tracks, ~68 minutes. (yes, the average track length is 12 minutes...) |
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Geonime from here on 2001-08-17 13:21 [#00022682] | |||||||||
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Why do you make EPs and stuff? Do you release them, or is it just for yourselves? If it's the latter, why not just make a CD and don't label it as an EP or and LP? |
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Mescaline on 2001-08-17 13:26 [#00022684] | |||||||||
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This is my problem - my shortest track is 11 min. |
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Geonime from here on 2001-08-17 13:38 [#00022687] | |||||||||
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Mescaline..what kind of music do you make? |
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al>< from dublin on 2001-08-17 15:31 [#00022706] | |||||||||
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just made a 13 track, variable song-length cd for meself. Now that i've spent the week listening to it and absorbing the songs in cd format (on the bus, walking around etc) i know i've to change about 3 to bring it where it should go. Then i reckon i'll make 10 copies, pass 'em to freinds and see how it goes down. What then people?...what then? Best case-scenario> Rephlex thinks i'm hot, take me on. Worst case scenario> Nobody thinks i'm hot except me. I CAN'T LOSE REALLY, CAN I..cos i love 'em tracks. |
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rob fragilenine from a warm place on 2001-08-17 15:42 [#00022707] | |||||||||
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I guess all that matters is that you like your own tracks. I'm only starting to really get into my stuff, after 5 years of making electronic music and 11 years of playing guitar. I don't care what other people think about my music, if they like it, good, if they don't, they can go listen to britney spears or something, i don't care. Obviously when I play my MP3J sets, I play bouncy stuff (to keep people moving), but when I do my live sets, I'm gonna play braindance/drill/ambient stuff... As for the length of cds, it doesn't matter how long the cd goes for, it only depends on the quality of the tracks. Take '2 remixes by afx' for example. This only has 2 tracks (plus bonus track), but heaps of people have bought it.. Same with Windowlicker/Windowlicker Video, etc... |
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ross on 2001-08-17 21:08 [#00022815] | |||||||||
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geonime- i label them as eps because they are so short, but i dont really give them out too much (thats my problem, no access to getting multiple burns..im working on that though) so maybe ill just give this one a name without a type of classification...rob, yeah i started to like my tracks earlier this year, when i look back at my old ones they're pretty terrible (but a start) it's just now it's more about making everything from scratch, which also makes me a lot happier (creating samples, etc) |
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pauwl from here at the moment on 2001-08-17 21:19 [#00022819] | |||||||||
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rob, are you an MP3J?, and if so, what is that exactly, do you take your computer to the disco? |
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Garry Shandling from Sherman Oaks on 2001-08-17 21:36 [#00022825] | |||||||||
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Yes, and at the "disco" they "jive" to his "funk". |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m on 2001-08-18 00:23 [#00022874] | |||||||||
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I like short songs and short cd's best. I have about 6 seperate cd's of my music with only like 3 short songs on each (plus bad versions), because every time I get finish a few, I want to see what they sound like on cd (since the sound quality on my computer sucks so much. I don't mean to imply that anyone gives a fuck about anything having to do with me, but you asked plus I had nothing more interesting do to other than to attempt to answer you question. I am aware that I switched do and to. |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m on 2001-08-18 00:25 [#00022876] | |||||||||
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But there WERE a couple mistakes I only became aware of after posting too. |
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Garry Shandling from Sherman Oaks on 2001-08-18 00:30 [#00022880] | |||||||||
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You mis-spelt "separate" and forgot to close the second set of parentheses. (Sputid |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m on 2001-08-18 00:40 [#00022885] | |||||||||
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Thanks for ponting that out (I'm such a dumbass |
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Garry Shandling from Sherman Oaks on 2001-08-18 00:43 [#00022886] | |||||||||
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eye ame too pleas, |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m on 2001-08-18 00:46 [#00022889] | |||||||||
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mmm... no thanks, I guess not. I just HAD a bowl of mixed vegetables (no peas though)... peas are all shriveled and remind me of eating pill bugs *blech* |
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ross on 2001-08-18 01:07 [#00022895] | |||||||||
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i like listening to the music on cd as well, much better quality..especially with headphones |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m on 2001-08-18 02:41 [#00022902] | |||||||||
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I think all music sounds worse on speakers, probably because I don't currently have room in my room to correctly seperate them for the correct panning effects that are correct. SCORE room-2 correct-3 winner: correct! |
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The_Funkmaster from Canada on 2001-08-18 02:48 [#00022903] | |||||||||
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the length of song definately depends on the song... Lots of songs by Underworld exceed 15 minutes, but they go on way too long... whereas other songs by Orbital, or Aphex Twin go on for say 10 minutes and they seem too short... if you try to drag a song out, then it's gonna sound that way... it depends on the song... |
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ross on 2001-08-18 03:06 [#00022906] | |||||||||
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Funkmaster, i can relate to the 'dragging out' recently..i made a really good melody and thought i'd try to make it fresh and long, but i learned that i couldnt, so i completely revamped the last half of the song over a period of a few days (thinking i'd fixed it, but it still sounded bad to me) and i finally fixed it recently...i kept it shorter, but added quite a few new things |
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ross on 2001-08-18 03:07 [#00022907] | |||||||||
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Mm-bjork said she tried to make her newest cd for a desktop speaker system and for computers, so i dunno if itll sound better than most things do, but imo nothing beats surround sound and headphones (i mean, everyone agrees on headphones usually) |
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Geonime from here on 2001-08-18 03:16 [#00022908] | |||||||||
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Everything I did last year was in mono but now I utilise stereo technology so I'd have drums and guitar coming from the right speaker, bass and keyboards coming from left speaker. Of course, they would be about 80% on one speaker and 20% on the other so they mix nicely. Is this right? Also how can I make a sound pan between speakers? I use Cakewalk Pro Audio. |
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ross on 2001-08-18 03:20 [#00022909] | |||||||||
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i used to be obsessed with spacing, and i still am, but it's more stable now..i reckon you always gotta keep the listener on their toes..but it really depends what you're trying to convey too i suppose |
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Geonime from here on 2001-08-18 03:37 [#00022910] | |||||||||
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I'd feel a bit ripped off if I bought a 20 minute album for full price, but i'd feel far more ripped off if it was 60 minutes but full of the same songs stretched out so they become repetetive. |
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ross on 2001-08-18 03:42 [#00022911] | |||||||||
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geonime, if i were on a real label, i would do what i could to make the 20 minute cd quite cheap, so people werent aggrivated..thom yorke said that they make cds usually 45 mins. what would be a normal car ride to go somewhere..found that interesting |
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f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-08-18 03:46 [#00022913] | |||||||||
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I think I just stretched the limits of an EP at 39:59 :) |
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Geonime from here on 2001-08-18 03:53 [#00022915] | |||||||||
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Mogwai did an EP which lasted longer than 40 minutes. I think. |
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Aron? from Canada on 2001-08-18 03:58 [#00022916] | |||||||||
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Isn't Autechre's EP7 almost 50 minutes long? It's pretty long for an EP anyway... |
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Geonime from here on 2001-08-18 04:02 [#00022917] | |||||||||
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How can it be called an EP if it's 50 minutes long? Silly Autechre. Godspeed You Black Emperor! release albums with 3 or 4 tracks and don't call them EPs. Their latest album had 4 tracks and was a double album! |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m on 2001-08-18 04:42 [#00022923] | |||||||||
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geonime, for the panning effects, at least in my limited musical technology knowledge of modplug tracker, simply put in the correct code on the last lines of every row. thEre are 16 panning positions in modplug: S80, S81, S82, S83, S84, S85 ,S86 ,S87, S88, S89, S8A, S8B, S8C, S8D, S8E, S8F which range from left speaker to right respectively. I don't know how the complicated software technological gizmos actually work, but I just use the software interface someone else (who must be damn brilliant) made, and MAGICALLY it just works. Again, I recommend crunch's "1" for panning effects. Also some tri rep by autechre and the 2nd song from lp5. I think the title ep7 IS fitting, because they are the only group to be able to bend/stretch time itself. They fit a whole year into "acroyear2" it sounds like. The tracks are theoretically short, but just looked at with a microscope which takes awhile. I also have a lot of panning in this song I just finished that is probably far superior to anything else I've done, since I used a new technique. (you know, that song that nobody but cm wanted to listen to- possibly because they didn't want the accompanying imaginary virus. I can only make imaginary viruses because I lack the know-how to make real ones. I remember the hiv virus having a pretty wicked tactic, but don't remember exactly how it worked. My long term memory is fried from all the videogames. |
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f.l.e.a on 2001-08-18 07:47 [#00022941] | |||||||||
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what I meant was that, what started out as a project with an ep length CD kept stretching and stretching..I had a funny title for it that I wanted to keep so now even at LP length it is an EP because the title says so LOL |
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