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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-08-31 02:34 [#00373336]
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'was just wondering whether any of you knew of the works or steve reich. some list him as one of the fore-fathers of the electronic music movement. I dunno 'bout that but his compositions sure are enchanting...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-31 02:35 [#00373338]
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they are.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-31 02:35 [#00373339]
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i have reich remixed album don't like it that much tho
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Intheorial Wile
from what (Suriname) on 2002-08-31 02:35 [#00373340]
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yea he studied drumming when he was 14 with the New York Philharmonic Orchestra timpanist; later he took a degree in philosophy at Cornell (1953-7) and studied composition at the Juilliard School (1958-61) and at Mills College (1962-3) with Milhaud and Berio, also becoming interested in Balinese and African music. In 1966 he began performing with his own ensemble, chiefly of percussionists, developing a music of gradually changing ostinato pattems that move out of phase, creating an effect of shimmering surfaces; this culminated in Drumming (1971), a 90-minute elaboration of a single rhythmic cell. From circa 1972 he added harmonic change to his music, and later (Tehillim, 1981) melody.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-31 02:38 [#00373343]
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what does that tell us?
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Intheorial Wile
from what (Suriname) on 2002-08-31 02:39 [#00373347]
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what it says
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-08-31 02:40 [#00373348]
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Wow a Copy-Paste-Post summary ! I didn't like the remix album either. He keeps cropping up in the orb's work and others. I just bought the Nonsuch box set so I have a lot of listening to do.
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Intheorial Wile
from what (Suriname) on 2002-08-31 02:43 [#00373351]
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yes
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-31 02:44 [#00373352]
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i prefer arne nordheim out of pre electronic musicians
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sikcerug
on 2002-08-31 06:58 [#00373483]
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im a huge miniamlist fan---reich included
the best example of reich's style is his masterpiece 'music for 18 musicians'
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sikcerug
on 2002-08-31 07:00 [#00373486]
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i think all minimalism is the fore father of electronic music
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-31 11:11 [#00373606]
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i'm gonna get 'music for 18 musicians' when i see it somewhere. 'Drumming' is ace, god knows how he got live musicians to play that stuff. 'Early works' is a nice introductory thing to his tapeloop stuff.
"It's gonna rain... It's gonna rain... It's gonna rain..."
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-08-31 11:40 [#00373616]
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"It's Been A Honeymoon ... Can't take no mo'"
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sikcerug
on 2002-08-31 17:56 [#00373786]
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i just did a new track---sort of in steve reich's style
listen here
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-31 18:43 [#00373835]
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tonyfish....
if you wanna read an excellent paper about steve reich AND aphex check this out.
http://howisya.tripod.com/saw2vsreich.html
it's NOT my paper, buti know you'll enjoy it! =0)
welcome to the aphex MB =0)
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-08-31 23:07 [#00374034]
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Thanks LeCoeur I'll read it tonight. And thanks for the warm welcome !
Sikcerug I'm impressed ! Ok that doesn't take much when it comes to making music. My last attempt with Reason was fairly disasterous ! Nice track. Got any more ?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-08-31 23:14 [#00374041]
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1 - its gonna rain 2 - come out (to show them)
crazy mashed loops, well worth a listen
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-08-31 23:22 [#00374054]
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yeah "come out to show them" is nice. the guy has a nice soft black voice whereas "it's gonna rain" is harsh ! Great stuff
I'm currently hooked on 4 Pianos and New York Counterpoint
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-31 23:50 [#00374079]
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thats an ace link, as i said, must pick up 'music for 18' sometime.
played 'open the bruise up and let some of the bruise blood out to show them' at a party once - carnage ensued.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-01 00:25 [#00374111]
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thanks steve :)
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-09-01 00:52 [#00374135]
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"Nagoya Marimbas" is wwwicked.
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MistahKurtz
from Paris (France) on 2002-09-01 11:27 [#00374365]
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My personal favourite is "Music for a Large Ensemble" on the ECM. The problem with Reich is that often new recordings of his work are botched (compare the NoneSuch recording of Music for 18 musicians to the original ECM recording, the former is clearer but lacks the emotional intensity and precision of the latter).
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-09-01 15:15 [#00374503]
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you're welcome!
what did you think of the essay?
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-01 15:24 [#00374516]
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Very interesting. I'm going to put some time aside some time this week and listen to them both (Music for 18 Musicians and Selected Ambient Works Volume II) back-to-back.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-09-01 15:48 [#00374541]
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i'm glad you enjoyed it. and yes listening to the both after reading that is a FANTASTIC idea.
thanks for taking the time to read!!
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-01 16:01 [#00374551]
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A friend of my brother's says that Wagner's Tristan et Isolde followed by Aphex Twin's Classics is a pretty mind-blowing combination. That's another one to try !
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sikcerug
on 2002-09-01 19:44 [#00374683]
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thanks, ive got tons here
they performed '4 pianos' at my school a couple years back....4 upright pianos....30mins
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-09-01 19:50 [#00374686]
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Reich , along with Jarre, Orbit, Glass, Tangerine Dream , Eno ...
All have an ability with sound which goes well as sound-track / background music to other forms of art , eg. visual art in films.
I find them not attention-grabbing enough to stand up on their own. I guess thats the point of ambient music though, you should be able to appreciate it without thinking about it being there
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-01 21:42 [#00374749]
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I'm not too keen on William Orbit. I bought 'Pieces in a Modern Style', listened to it about 3 times then gave it away. I was going to try and sell it but in the end I couldn't wait, it was too big a blemish in my cd collection.
On the other hand I don't see how anyone could listen to Reich as background music. I could never have any other sound happening in the room at the same time (apart from maybe the sound of my keyboard!). That's a perversion, a heresy! Reich stands up on his own. Heck Reich supports the fucking building he's played in!
Jarre is always the same. OK the guy's a pioneer but with his father's fortune it can't have been particularly hard for him.
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-09-01 22:00 [#00374777]
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steve reich rules
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-01 23:27 [#00374909]
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*Bump* (Because he rocks your world!)
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MistahKurtz
from Paris (France) on 2002-09-01 23:28 [#00374910]
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Bad trip bump. Conversation closed.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-01 23:29 [#00374912]
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooo oh all right then...
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-01 23:33 [#00374915]
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that essay used too many big words for me too fully get into - had to dust off my 'ab guide to music theory' :)
what's a bump btw?
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-01 23:35 [#00374918]
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Taking an old thread and "bumping" it up to the top of the list again by posting. Not that this thread is all that old mind you.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-09-01 23:36 [#00374920]
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a bump is a minor knock, shunt , mound or undulation.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-09-01 23:37 [#00374924]
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Now I totally choke on my last post :D
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-09-01 23:53 [#00374959]
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buy a dictionary and or use dictionary.com and READ the essay rascal.
it really opened my eyes when i read it. and besides it's by a fellow MB member! =0)
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-01 23:55 [#00374962]
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Is it ? Who ?
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-09-02 00:09 [#00374982]
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titsworth is the author!
i believe he posted on this thread saying thanks to someone who read his essay!
=0)
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-02 00:27 [#00375013]
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Say! If you're familiar with come out (to show them) Is it definately Bruised blood and not blues blood. I remember making up my mind (thinking it important) I think I went for Blues actually cos I thought Bruised just sounded wrong.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-02 00:29 [#00375016]
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Hmmm I prefer "blues blood". How the heck can blood be bruised ? Oh well that's official I take it ?
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-02 00:31 [#00375018]
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Hey man you're from the land of Charles Rennie Mackintosh! Familiar with his work ?
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-02 00:35 [#00375024]
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Steve Reich is good for you're health -unlike mssgbrds. That's official too :o
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-09-02 00:38 [#00375026]
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i am!!
he's one of my favourite arts&crafts architects and furniture designers.
for an architecture class i designed a high back chair in the style of good ole Mac!
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-02 00:51 [#00375045]
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Really? That's great!
I recently went on holiday in the highlands and then in Argyllshire so I visited loads of CRM related places. Visited the mock-up of his (demolished) house, the Glasgow school of art, the Tearoom, and the house he designed in Bellahouston Park.
Plus the guy spent loads of time at Port Vendres in a region (near Perpignan) that I have spent all my summer hols from birth to the age of 15/16 in.
What delightful coincidences!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-09-02 01:11 [#00375076]
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blues
i'll check tomorrow, remind me
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-09-02 04:44 [#00375200]
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OHHHHHH man i'd LOVE to see the School of Art in Glasgow!!! waaaaaah
*jealous*
i need to go to the UK fer shureeeee
i have a charm braclet with 4 of his chairs.....and some earings that are taken from one of his designs. he's just amazing.
when you have spare time do a word search on ARCHITECTURE and you'll find lots to read about. there have been some amazing threads about Art and Architecture!! =0)
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-09-02 05:48 [#00375280]
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I have heard Drumming and It's Gonna Rain and I can't stand either. I can't even sit through them, much less enjoy them; and enjoyment is essentially why I listen to music.
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sikcerug
on 2002-09-02 08:44 [#00375357]
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personally i like Glass better
he's gotten really good now...not just arpeggios anymore
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