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map from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 09:27 [#00021443]



does anybody know how i can perfect multisample some
tunes....for every octave ? how should i begin ?


 

Wizards Teeth from Parsnip Land on 2001-08-13 09:53 [#00021446]



what does multi sample mean ?


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 09:57 [#00021447]



so.....if you got a beat, and play it 2 octave higher than
the original, the beat is faster, the pitch ,
too....multisampling means, you have a sample for every
octave, so you can make a beat, but if you play it 2 octaves
, the beat will be faster, but the pitchvalue is the same
like the original


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 10:39 [#00021456]



c'mon guys i need some infos. got urls ?
i know there are some good musicans out here....


 

Gl;itch from New Zealand on 2001-08-13 11:09 [#00021461]



Sorry Map, I guess your after something really definate, but
the only thing I can think of in this case is something like
cubase and other music softwares stretch function, where it
takes the piece and stretches it to a length youd like to
use, supposedly without changing the pitch or losing
quality, but I cant say Ive done much with that particular
function.


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:26 [#00021464]



so what d'you do if you have got a piano looped tune, and
you want play on every octave?


 

Gl;itch from New Zealand on 2001-08-13 11:31 [#00021465]



umm, well, I dont know what id do until I got it into the
programs I use, Do you really need to have the same thing
played on different octaves, cant you chop it up a bit and
sequence the notes of the original ?


 

Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 11:32 [#00021466]



A decent harmonizer would be able to play a piano tune on
every octave. Maybe coupled with a digital delay to stagger
the hamonies. A midi transposer could do it. Playing each
octave individually and overlaying on top of each other or
mix together separate tracks in Cubase.

Is this the right ball park?


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:36 [#00021467]



nah the problem is, i want play it normal like a piano, but
if you have one sample for the whole key-range, the pitch is
okay, but the stretch....so if you've got chorus on the
sample, you'll hear the chorus on the low octaves slower
(wwwwuuuuuuaaaaaaaaauuuuuuwwwww) than the upper octaves
(wuawuawuawuawuawuawuawuawua)

that's the problem

so you need to edit a sample for each octave.....but how ?
open wavelabg and mark the whole sample and change the pitch
value -/+ but how much for each octave? 1, 2 ? i dunno....


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:39 [#00021468]



i need it only for my AKAI s2000m the piano thing is only an
example, i need it for everything....efx etc..


 

Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 11:40 [#00021469]



I'm not entirely sure what your wanting here bud, but a
harmonizer is not chorus.
With a harmonizer if you play a note it will harmonise it at
the octaves you want it, with no delay i.e. instant
harmonization.



 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:43 [#00021470]



i never talked about a harmonizer.....i talk about
samples....multisampling, sample with the same length on
every octave, but exactly the pitch like the octave i play
them

bad english i know


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:49 [#00021471]





Multisampling is an essential technique, as it allows
memory to be conserved whilst not compromising excessively
on the fidelity of the sound. One sample is assigned to all
the notes within a certain range (e.g. an octave), and is
then sped up or slowed down slightly to provide the sound of
that sample at that pitch. The number of notes that a sample
can provide depends upon how much its speed can be altered,
as it will eventually reach a point at which it is no longer
recognisable as the original sound.


http://www.themusicland.co.uk/technology/keen4.htm


 

Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 11:52 [#00021472]



If you have soundforge, you can adjust the pitch and length
of sample, so although increasing/decreasing the pitch will
increase/decrease the sample time, you can then stretch it
in soundforge (without further altering the pitch).

on the right trax yet!?!?!?


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:57 [#00021473]



yeah ok i've got soundforge and look what i can do, it think
that's the solution....just test around with them...
thx @ soundassasin
i've got only a track yet...
ftp://lupo.besonic.com/audio_016/0347/036/68903my_caphe.mp3

So Listen the whole track.. ;)>


 

Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 12:12 [#00021475]



Map - If your feeling rich you could always buy the Roland
VP-9000 VariPhrase capable of realtime manipulation of
sampled phrases' pitch, time, and formant via MIDI while
maintaining superb sound quality. Thanks to VariPhrase
technology, the VP-9000 can instantly match loops from
different sources to the same key and tempo, bend notes in
realtime without changing the phrase length, modify the
duration of notes held within a phrase, play a sample
chordally in perfect synchronization, or add swing to a
straight drum loop, all in a highly musical, non-destructive
environment.

Nice!


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 12:16 [#00021476]



yes, i rode many abot the VP9000, but it's to expensive for
me, i've got enough stuff to make the shit i need. what's
about you ?


 

Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 12:21 [#00021478]



map - Same here bud, I don't get paid enough to afford
things like that! I have a decent rack, couple os synths,
drum machines, guitars, the rest is on the PC.

Ah well.


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 12:24 [#00021479]



so what's the problem? are you unhappy with equip. ? isn't
it that what you need. i^ve got the boss dr770
drummachine....so i have another question, d'you know how i
transfer midi dumps to machine, i want to edit a rhythm on
cubase then transfer it to the d.machine, but how ? how can
i transfer/receive files ?


 

Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 12:32 [#00021480]



Map - Not at all! Though In my opinion "you can never have
enough gear!!"

I'm not too familiar with that drum machine, presumably it
will take midi dumps?

I haven't got Cubase in front of me either, there is an
option for transferring midi data out of the PC into an
external machine. I've certainly been able to do a dump from
synth to cubase!!



 

CUN8eR LASIT from LASiT on 2001-08-13 12:37 [#00021481]



You'd need a sampler or so to trigger it (if you want to
play the samples from the keyboard) .. but you should
download Protools Free .. its free .. and has all the time
stretch stuff (and pitch bend without it being all fast and
stuff) but it would be quite laborious to so without one of
them samplers, be it software or hardware. Also has some
echo effects I'm sure Aphex has used .. like on the Ventolin
ep and stuff


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 12:42 [#00021482]



yeah that's right....i think, gear comes and goes, like
yourself and your friends. so it will be shit, if i can only
transfer from the drummachine. so what i should do on live
session, it would be shit!! i can't trigger the sample from
the drummachine, don't use own made (from cubase)
patterns....mh..


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 12:48 [#00021483]



CUN8er, got an URL ?


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 13:20 [#00021484]



huh? *echo echo echo echo echo*


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 13:22 [#00021485]



http://members.tripodasia.com.my/swking/800600/midi04.htm


 


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