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Clic
on 2002-08-15 18:17 [#00351067]
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Well, it's definitely different, but I don't think it's as bad as everyone is making it out to be.
There are some very beautiful things on this release and I didn't know Gaz could sing that well.
Still, I guess I'm a little saddened by the fact that they'll most likely never do something that sounds similar to the pre-Isness material. It's a shame because that was also some amazing music.
I guess every artist (or artsists in this case) needs to move forward. It's healthy.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-08-15 18:27 [#00351078]
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a small point of interest...
The album managed to get to no. 68 in this weeks album charts
i still can't get into it but maybe i'll give in another listen
looking forward to the humanoid re-release on rephlex more than anything else
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-15 18:55 [#00351108]
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isness topic
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Clic
on 2002-08-15 20:01 [#00351175]
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Too late.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-15 20:01 [#00351177]
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yep
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Clic
on 2002-08-15 20:04 [#00351179]
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So you like it then?
That makes two... heh.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-15 20:05 [#00351183]
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heheh
i like it...
not as a FSOL release... but as a different thing all together
i rather they didnt release it as FSOL... cause its just so different
but besides that, im really diggin it
=)
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Clic
on 2002-08-15 20:07 [#00351187]
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Ah yes. I have to look at it that way too -- not as an FSOL release.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-25 08:48 [#00363952]
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you know, if this were the 70s and pink floyd had released this album everyone would say it's brilliant.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-25 08:50 [#00363955]
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yeah
the only problem with that... is that this album has had time to be inspired by all of the stuff that was released in the 70s
but i agree
its fucking amazing
the perfect step for them
they truely show how great of producers they are on here, as well as musicians and song writers
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-25 08:54 [#00363962]
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i think they were exclusively going after that 60s and 70s psychedelic and middle-eastern sound but some of the production techniques are cutting edge - stuff the beatles only hinted at with songs like "tomorrow never knows" and "a day in the life".
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-25 08:54 [#00363963]
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of course... but its obviously inspried by a previous style... not creating it
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-25 08:55 [#00363966]
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i think if the members of FSOL were alive and making music in the 60s and 70s they'd be in history books. gaz isn't an amazing singer but his voice is a lot like john and paul's. with a few more years of training it could be on their level of singing. (IMO the brilliance of john and paul were their lyric and music writing abilities, not so much their voices.)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-25 08:56 [#00363968]
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"galaxial pharmaceutical" really hits the spot for me, that could well be one of my favorite songs since the blackalicious album came out in may.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-25 08:58 [#00363969]
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(about the beatles... i agree... although paul has a great voice... a HUGE range!)
but alls im saying, is that if they were alive in the 70s, they wouldnt have made this album, beucase its inspired...
no doubt they would had made great ground breasking stuff though...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-25 08:59 [#00363971]
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while the isness is definitely a psychedelic album it doesn't sound exactly like a psychedelic rock album or a psychedelic electronic album. it's a perfect mix of the two balanced with traditional indian influences. plus pop. plus folk ("the isness", "meadows", "mello hippo disco show"), and soul ("the lovers").
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-25 09:00 [#00363973]
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agreed
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-25 09:00 [#00363974]
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they wouldn't have made this exact album in the 70s of course, but they'd make something as good or even better. tho this album may not be fans' favorite, like nin's 'the fragile', serious fans have to admit it's musically the most superior.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-25 09:01 [#00363976]
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again, agreed
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-25 09:03 [#00363978]
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i think they are very underrated
sure everyone knows about PNG, but for most people, they have kind of faded away imo.
kind looked at like a early 90s band...
i think they are timeless
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-25 09:07 [#00363983]
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bah
now i gotta go listen to the whole album again :)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-25 09:08 [#00363985]
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i think electronica fans are being closeminded about this album. i hope they keep it cos when they turn 30 or so and have listened to different types of music and matured they'll realize how amazing it is.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-25 19:31 [#00364492]
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man, i got dissconnected last night... couldnt log back on till now :S
i typed this long thing... heres a shorter version:
To me, The Isness reminds me of the end of Final Fantasy VII (i think?). FF7 takes place in the future, and is very mechanized... anyways, at the end, there is a great explosion that basically destroys the world.
You think bummer right? Well, if you watch all the way through the end credits, then there is a cgi movie, and it shows some years later, that nature has lived on. The ruins of the cities are covered with plants and forests, and the animals now roam the earth again. Its very uplifting.
This is what The Isness makes me think of every time i think of this album.
This album was the most logical step for FSOL.
They made all this futuristic electronic music (the futuristic cities). Then the dude almost died (the explosion), and came back with a more natural sound (the nature covering the old ruins of the city)
I dunno... thats how I think the future will be...
we will continue to develop and develop, but at some point, we are going to all die.
The nature will just live on after us, and rebuild over the ruins of our civilization.
so yeah, The Isness has a profound effect on me :)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-25 19:48 [#00364515]
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good explanation :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-25 19:49 [#00364517]
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:D
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-09-06 20:59 [#00382385]
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well I just got and inspite of all the short comings and dissapointment at then not expanding on the amazing creation Dead Cities..I actually like what I have heard:)..I think people are a bit hasty making the leap directly back to 70's to find it's precedents etc..true..that's where this style was originated..but more recently some fantastic neo psychedelia has been produced by Legendary Pink Dots, Tear Garden, Hilt etc..which seems like a better frame of reference here...yes it's brighter, more cheerful and optimisitc than that stuff...but those are the associations I a making and am enjoying it....
plus that flute..maan Jethro Tull is a one of my favourite bands from that era...it's evoking that quite successfully...
Plus the production is so vast rich and deep those strings make the hair on my arms go errect...lovely..
I think my only complaint is the Sitar sounds..now that is a cliched sound..and if you come from where I come from hearing it played by virtuosos..the rock adaptation is just annoying...
other than that.....I like it more than I want to:)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-09-06 21:07 [#00382390]
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vinyl comes out on monday (at fuggen last)
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-09-06 22:07 [#00382444]
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titsworth: i think electronica fans are being closeminded about this
album.
You could say that about every major release this year. Braindance fans are being extraordinarily fickle...
Yet they're still buying anyway, so...
No problem ;.)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-06 22:28 [#00382481]
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are they buying? really? hasn't been my experience...
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