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Saw both this week; Minority Report first, which is pretty slick early on , before sliding downhill to a Hollywood ending . Overall worth watching though. AI on the other hand had me despising all the characters early on, there were NO twists and turns, I had NO interest in what happened to the kid, and none of it was at all amusing. Or scary. In the end it turned to COMPLETE bollocks, which actually caused me and my sister to cave in to HYsTerical Laughter as we watched the last of it on fast forward. It is THAT lame. AI seriously is the crappiest film I've seen for years. Spielberg is a CUNT. Jaws was good , but then it was great material from a great book. BAH !!! should have hired Man Bites Dog again.. |
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Minority Report was great and immensly better than AI imo |
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I liked AI/Pinoccio |
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Jaws was bollocks.. AI I liked because it's like Spielberg battling the spectre of Kubrick..no matter how he tried to Sugarcoat and honey dewed and soft focus the material,,the stuff in the first half is downright perverse...the boys obsession with his mother is the most explicit Oedeipal fixation ever shown in a Hollywood film..him springing up on her everywhere not to mention in the toilet...is that lovable sleazy ole bastard (Kubrick's) last laugh beyond the grave... |
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Spielberg should be told "No more shooting Stevie " and should be shot himself. AI is unadulterated wank; the Oedeipal thing probably way over Spielbergs head |
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yes it is way over his head..it's embedded so well into the original script/ short story he cant help but show it..that's where the fun lies |
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Spielberg must be choking on his millions. |
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Spielberg is better than Lucas |
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Is this going to turn into a playground fight? |
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Howard the Duck vs AI AI wins |
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Spielberg beats Lucas ? wow. Jurassic park v star wars Its like a vote over whether you'd rather watch your own shit decompose or be hung up by one ankle for two hours. .....Except those two things were never really feted by the sycophantic film industry.. (not publicly anyhows :) |
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ET Vs Star Wars ET wins |
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I thought that Minority Report was great, but I agree that the ending is a bit shitty. Artificial Intelligence isn't as bad as people say it is, but it's good for a Speilberg film. It has all the usual Spielberg trademarks, flashy visuals, happy ending. Pretty good family film. |
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Howard the Duck was indeed truly dire ;) whats the worst RECENT hollywood big seller ? AI ? or Saving Private Ryan ? Or anything starring Sandra Bullock ... hmmm... |
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Hook vs THX-1138 THX-1138 wins |
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Saving private Ryan was so bad I actually felt like I WANTED to be there getting shot at myself. If I was ; I would have pistol-whipped Hanks in a unique form of "friendly fire" |
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WHAT??!?!?! Saving Private Ryan BAD??!??! I think not! *kicks Smokehammer's bad taste ass |
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heh |
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Hanks is a fuck face The film bored the shit out of me No political or social message No deeper nuances No twists and turns No imagination Most 'factual' accounts turned into Hollywood blockbusters leave me wishing they'd just made a damn good documentary about it instead . But yes, I've always presumed my ass probably tasted bad . |
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i agree. how the hell could anyone call that bad? anyway, minority report was much better, despite the bad ending. atleast it didn't have three like AI |
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Did you miss the big social message at the beginning? |
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It appears I missed a meeting somewhere.. :D Spielberg "messages" end up having a counter-productive effect on me. I always want the hero in his films to die ; Except for Jaws, who does die. And then once he's dead you want him to stay dead. But no; he comes back ! What message in SPR ? "War is bad" ? I missed it, pray tell..... |
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I am with smokehammer... Spielberg on principle is a schmuck.. most war movies are utter bollocks Hollywood filmakers are masters at reinventing histroy and taking credit for a lot of the things that they did accomplish |
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I would say the message was a little deeper than that. And I'm not a big Spielberg fan, so I'm not saying it just to kiss his bum... |
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bravo to flea ; I'm sure you'd agree that there are a few great war films ; mainly ones where the main angle is parallel to consensus ; eg combat drug testing in 'Jacobs ladder' or the institutionalised military de-humanising techniques in "full metal jacket". But yeah , SPR, and most other war garbage (pearl harbour , and so on) does re-invent history in a grotesquely devisive way that pumps audiences full of false sentiments. Navy Seals anyone ? ;D |
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please ninja dude ... what was the message in SPR ? can you sum it up for me ? I've genuinely forgotten it , I would appreciate a quick summary of the beginning you descibe which I may have missed |
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a great war movie is "no mans land" it seems to be pretty damn realistic to me |
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No need to be sarcastic. I agree with you about the rest of the film - it's junk. Watch the beginning again and see if you see any philosophy coming through. |
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Saving Private Ryan may be soaked in a bit of Spielbergian sap and whatnot, but damn, that movie looks and sounds so much better than anything else... in a shallow way, that ALONE makes it great, FUCK it looks good. You feel like you're there with them, so brilliantly filmed, and the washed out color is sublime, yummy gummy! And where's the rewritten history in that movie? What exactly did Mr. Bearded Jew Director do to fuck it up ever so horridly? |
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ninja dude> I'm not being sarcastic. I genuinely remember the opening scene being the troops on a landing craft... bieng sick etc... but I may have missed a whole chunk before then, and if so, I'm sure you could be right that it was a good message . But I'm not watching it again to find out. |
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+eg combat drug testing in 'Jacobs ladder'+ wow that's one of my all time favourite movies..isnt it uncannily like the Afghan (heh)veterans out massacaring and killing their families in Texas right now + or the institutionalised military de-humanising techniques in "full metal jacket". + yep and i will add Apocalypse Now to the list..that's all the War Movies that ever mattered..to me atleast |
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flea> "Afghan (heh)veterans out massacaring and killing their families in Texas right now" WTF this is a story I wanna see , any links bro' ? Yeah Apocalypse is great, I'm off to see the real Vietnam in the New Year... |
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''And where's the rewritten history in that movie? What exactly did Mr. Bearded Jew Director do to fuck it up ever so horridly?'' Bah, I KNEW nobody was going to tackle that question. War veterans THEMSELVES lauded the action sequences for their accuracy and realism. And those fuckers were THERE, I think they'd know. The movie doesn't try to be too too deep... just savage killfests, depicts them perfectly. |
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damn man it's all over the news lemme see what I can dig up re: vietnam..wow..are you gonna check out the cong tunnel networks..that looked awesome...on a Lonely Planet..frighteningly awesome... |
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I will see what I can lookup on that too..but mainly..the British had a lot bigger hand A LOT in the rescue than was portrayed... |
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Holy Fuck ! Must have been so pleased to see their wives again; they celebrated Afghani style (guns in the air) only for a series of unfortunately placed ceilings and walls to deflect the bullets into their wives' chests. I guess thats the official 'tragic accident' line , and I believe it :D |
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AI what a bomb... spielburg trying to hard to be kubrick. gives stanley a bad name. should have left it alone. Minority Report on the other hand took me by surprise... alot of adult themes for a spielburg film. good to see him taking a new route with film. ai - * minority - **** |
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