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offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-12 23:59 [#00307689]
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With this rapid downturn of the US market being the
headlining news allover the world..does anybody else feel
like they are in the climactic scene of Fight Club..Sitting
back and taking in the panoramic view of the financial
district up in flames..


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-13 00:00 [#00307691]
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yes


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-13 00:00 [#00307693]
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wait, no


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-13 00:01 [#00307694]
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hunh? which is it?


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-13 00:21 [#00307713]
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no it's a predicable part of the human condition under
capitalsim not a scene in a second rate film


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-13 00:23 [#00307714]
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um..second rate? where have you been mate!!


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-13 00:25 [#00307718]
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watching alot of films - this one didn't grab me - i
prefered seven - sorry :)


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-13 00:28 [#00307723]
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+shrugs+


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-13 00:45 [#00307739]
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my point is that films have got such a hold of our culture,
the discerning reality without resorting to silver screen
metaphors, is becoming a bit difficult, because everything
we perceive as reality is filtered and accesssed through the
media, and the media insists on dipping in to visual
vocabulary of the film industry to convey"reality* to
us......on the other hand film has taken to tricks of
reportage"shaky grainy handheld cams" to diminish the gap
between fact and fiction and heighten "realism"...

the most frequently heard bystander reaction on 9/11 was..

"it was just like the movies..."

it's hard to digest real events without it triggering it's
fictitous counterpart...infact politicians are actively
using the film to access the receptive parts of the
constituents psyche..
one of the politicians here in NZ has launched his campaign
with the Theme from Mission Impossible..on the eve of the
big thearatical release of Mnority Report..

Another renacted "The Seige" and blocked off the entirely
central City with commando troops hopping in Unision month
after the movie was released for an economic conference
starring Bill Clinton..
many of the newsreporter starting the coverage of the event
by say..
"Like a scene out of the movie "The Seige"..


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-13 00:52 [#00307746]
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flea you are a very smart man :)
i think - isaid it last night that people need commercial
points of reference before they can fully digest the fine
detail of a situation say like 9/11 - it seems so unreal and
the only medias they have to view it are the same ones that
bring you mars attacks or something like that ..
also people are only given the news they are expected to
take - ie cnn in the us tells a completely different story
to channel 4 in the uk ..


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-13 00:58 [#00307750]
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The media blackout going on in the US since 9/11..is quite
incredible...and this is the nation that boasts..of freedom
of speech and cultural "enlightenment"...to a degree that
they can assume to dictate morality and freedom to other
nations!!!


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-13 01:06 [#00307761]
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i don't live in america so i can't talk but from the
experiences i've hsd with looking at the us media it's a
little one sided - but this is a country where you have to
say the first ammendment in school every day..


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-13 01:13 [#00307770]
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I have actually been in America...infact it was during the
first gulf war..I feel really sorry for the people..they are
helpless pawns in the machinations of the
govt/corporations/media..the kind of textbook propaganda
they have to put up with is beyond beleif..a classic example
was that yellow ribbon campaign during the first gulf
war..they hrboured support for the war by saying that if you
wear/buy a yellow ribbon you support our troops..and if you
dont then you wish them illwill...I mean what kind of a
conundrum is that..many people I knew were terrified of not
wearing the yellow ribbons because they would get
taunted..oh so you want our troops to die do you?


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-13 01:15 [#00307771]
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and the media kept showing the yellow ribbons..claiming that
the people of America whole heartedly support the War
effort..and sending of troops...


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-13 01:20 [#00307772]
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wellthe idea of participiation for the greater good is part
of the media - they need to appeal to the fears and ideals
of the average man to sell copy - in war it's more intense -
and corporate sponsorship that plays on the #2common good "
just enhances these feelings - tv has no room for those who
don't conform..


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-13 01:21 [#00307773]
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smokehammer feel free to jump in anytime.. :)


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-13 01:23 [#00307775]
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well put *nods*


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-13 01:24 [#00307776]
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bad spelling tho - right i'm tired and going to bed -
cheers..


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-13 01:26 [#00307779]
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cheer mate:)


 


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