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Laqeuro
from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-10 21:39 [#00304794]
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how many idm fans are there out there do you recken? i'd prolly say 5,000
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-10 21:41 [#00304796]
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there be more than 5'000!!!! come on, you arent that underground. dont kid urself.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-07-10 21:42 [#00304800]
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count me.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-10 21:58 [#00304838]
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I would say about half a mill
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Laqeuro
from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-10 21:59 [#00304842]
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half a mill i dunno
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Laqeuro
from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-10 22:00 [#00304843]
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hmm
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2002-07-10 22:00 [#00304844]
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uuuu 25000
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-07-10 22:02 [#00304849]
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twelvety
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melack
from barcielwave on 2002-07-10 22:03 [#00304851]
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theres a lot of people hearing afx sp boc... that arent really idm (pure) fans.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-10 22:04 [#00304852]
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heheh
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-07-10 22:06 [#00304856]
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How's it going flea? I got Flatspin, it's nice! I'm just making a new mix thing for the car..thanks again..
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-07-10 22:08 [#00304862]
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More than you think, tho, I havent met one in real life yet, except for a few Raver's......
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Laqeuro
from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-10 22:09 [#00304865]
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i have about 3 friends that enjoy it and they're the only ones i've met in person.
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-10 22:13 [#00304875]
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Worldwide? Is that the figure we're looking for? Think of the thousands of IDM records out there? Are there more records than fans? 5000 are you joking?
If Jega sold 7000 then how much do you think RDJ and BoC sell?
Gotta be 2 million.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-07-10 22:13 [#00304876]
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Depends what you call a fan...
Someone that downloads loads of free music and pretends to be superior.
Someone who wears a scarf and sweat bands of the music they like and would do anything to kiss and lick them
or it could be simply
One of the many millions who have heard aphex or Ae BOC etc on an advirtisement and thought 'OOooo, I like that'
I don't know!
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melack
from barcielwave on 2002-07-10 22:16 [#00304882]
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i only know one feeling idm.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-10 22:16 [#00304883]
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cool..cool..yeah that's the word for Ken Ishii's stuff..Nice!!
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-07-10 22:18 [#00304885]
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yap it's a hard question, i mean the most people who know and love aphex, they also "like" BoC, Ae, Squarepusher, u-ziq, bogdan etc. so i think it's hard to say how much peoples are "IDM Fans", and like JivverDicker said, it depends what you call a fan..., a great collector of this sort of music is a IDM fan, my opinion.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-07-10 22:18 [#00304886]
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I'm doing a mix as we speak....
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-10 22:20 [#00304887]
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Niicee...I love Ken Ishii's melodies..they are so..umm..Japanese..you know what I mean?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-07-10 22:22 [#00304891]
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-12345555 fans
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-07-10 22:25 [#00304897]
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He still uses a JD800 the roland synth that has a really specific 'plasticy' digital sound. His melodies are japanese cute but not cutesy.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-10 22:30 [#00304910]
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hmm..I didnt know about the synth..hmm..yeah his melodies are pretty elegent
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-10 22:49 [#00304963]
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40,000
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-07-10 23:26 [#00305037]
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Wow, isn't it sad that the number of true IDM fans is so small that we would actually dare estimate how many there are in the world?
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OK
on 2002-07-11 06:10 [#00305311]
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"0"
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-07-11 06:13 [#00305314]
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eleventy billion
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-07-11 06:15 [#00305316]
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3,14 fans
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-07-11 09:29 [#00305475]
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think about it....aphex was a nominee on the brit awards...idm has reached every country in the world, apparantly....there has to be loads out there.....
yep id say half a million too
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-07-11 10:47 [#00305549]
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wtf! idm could include orbital, the orb, underworld, fsol, its not all rephlex and warp u no!
millions of us out there!
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-07-11 10:50 [#00305552]
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and i hate the term idm..its just electronica, expermintal avant-garde electronica...and atleast a couple of million ppl r into that i'd say
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Bob Mcbob
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no, it couldnt. :P
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-07-11 10:52 [#00305556]
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Worldwide, 250,000 - 500,000
There are out there!!!
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-07-11 10:54 [#00305557]
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"There are out there!!!"
oops! George Bush made me do it!
... They are out there ...
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-07-11 11:04 [#00305561]
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yes it could...
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-11 11:12 [#00305574]
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I hate the term IDM, I also hate the term electronica...it all sounds so elitest and shit, like modern art critics who are so far up their own arse they think shit on a stick is the most visionary concept they have ever witnessed.
Music is music, if you like it you like it, if you don't you don't. The very fact that some people who like Aphex don't like Ae shows how you can't classify them as the same thing. And to say it is all electronic music is bullshit as well. You wouldn't class folk music in the same group as metal now would you? So why, just because the computer is used as an instrument, do people lump all electronic music together?
The whole thing that attracted me to the Warp label artists was the fact that they were all doing their thing in a way that made a joke out of genre's that the media invented.
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-07-11 11:21 [#00305582]
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electronic music just describes that all this music was made using electronic means...we all know its got many totally different aspects to it..but its just a general term..as opposed to other stuff
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-11 11:24 [#00305584]
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You gonna class n*sync as electronic?
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-07-11 11:28 [#00305588]
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youve got good points there ecnadniarb...but whats the alternative? u cant have a different genre for each artist....and u cant be without genres, how would u describe the music? how will u find it in the shop?
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-07-11 11:29 [#00305589]
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no i class nsync as complete and utter bullshit
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-07-11 11:32 [#00305590]
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i also agree ecnadniarb is right in someway..i dn't really care wot the genres are ..its just good music..and who says electronic music can't have acoustic instruments..it does...
but also we do need genres to describe different styles even if its not exactly accurate , which it can never be
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-11 11:34 [#00305591]
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I don't think there is a problem with having some genre's. I just think it is fucking stupid classing Global Goon, Autechre, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Prefuse73 etc. etc. as belonging to the same genre. Their musical styles are too varied.
btw, I think Squarepusher deserves his own genre, you never know what the lad is gonna do next :o)
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-07-11 11:42 [#00305593]
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they might have different style, but they also have a common similarity which is why ppl call them "electronic" and idm and ambient etc...
PS again: i hate the term IDM!
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-11 11:45 [#00305594]
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Global Goon sounds NOTHING like Ae.
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-07-11 11:58 [#00305597]
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i never heard global goon sorry...wot r they like?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-07-11 12:08 [#00305602]
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This is all pointless. Genres are here for convenience (and marketing purposes) so, from that perspective, GG and Ae are in the same bag. That does not deny any of them their uniqueness. Genress are just a handy shortcut in a conversation, not firm categories. Argue about something more intelligent, for chrissake
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-07-11 12:14 [#00305604]
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Meho, ur my hero....
but i still hate IDM...its completely unacceptable bullshit...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-07-11 12:18 [#00305606]
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Salma: I feel sarcasm. I am hurt.
I hate IDM tag as well, being utterly unintelligent myself...
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-11 12:20 [#00305609]
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To be honest, it is only that I hate the term IDM and the word electronica. When someone asks me the type of music I listen to I would never reply with either of those terms.
Try Braindance
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-11 12:21 [#00305611]
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Actually I wouldn't say braindance either...I just say "here listen, and throw them a CD"
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