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           jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-20 09:43 [#00226328]
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 Did anyone hear about his comments regarding the  Independent's Middle East correspondent and the Labour MP  and critic of Israel George Galloway? Apparently he doesn't  like their support for the Palestinians and their criticism  of Israel and would like to shoot them. 
 
  I won't be watching anymore of his films, the prick. He  part-owns a hotel in my native Cardiff where I shall be  returning next month. Maybe I should piss in the lobby when  I get back. 
 
  
         
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           jand
             from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-20 09:48 [#00226329]
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after all that bollocks with the mis-quoting of StockHausen  after 911, I find it really hard to trust any "quotes"...
 
  Tell us more/give us some links....
 
  
         
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           Taxidermist
             from Black Grass on 2002-05-20 09:50 [#00226331]
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I don't trust anything the news tells me nowadays.  Reguardless of how left or right wing they appear to be, and  how small the news source is. 
 
  
         
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           jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-20 10:00 [#00226332]
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I read it in the Editor that comes with Saturday's Guardian.  While it said "allegedly" George Gallowy is speaking to his  lawyer so I guess its true. I'll try and find something on  the web. And the correspondent is Robert Fisk by the way. 
 
  
         
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           jand
             from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-20 10:12 [#00226333]
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Cheers...I'll have a look, think I've got it sitting  somewhere at home...
 
  Any idea where the original story is from?..The Editor is  like a cutnpaste version of the weeks news culled from  various newspapers/mags so even though it's The Guardian  (possibly the only decent paper in the UK), it could still  be bollocks...
 
  Ever since 911 I get a real stinky feeling from most news  media, even more so than before...it was so shocking to see  how the merest mention of war made everyone  ultra-conservative & there were/was way too few dissenting  voices heard...
 
  I felt let down basically...
 
  
         
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           Meho Krljic
             from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-20 10:26 [#00226334]
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Aw, jonesy, ever watchful, eh?
 
  
         
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           jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-20 10:33 [#00226336]
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Someone told me that Fisk wrote a defence in Friday's  Independent. 
 
  Yes, the voices of dissent have been too few. I see Dick (by  name & nature) Cheney said that the US is likely to be  attacked again. I love the way they cynically massage the  population's fear so that they can carry on murdering around  the world. I mean Cuba, as part of the axis of evil? Fuck  right off. 
 
  
         
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           Meho Krljic
             from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-20 10:35 [#00226337]
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Much as i hate US imperialism, i have to say that Israel/  Palestina thing is not all that simple, mate. 
 
  
         
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           jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-20 10:42 [#00226343]
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I know its complex but the way I see it; since 1948  Palestinians have been expelled from their land through  violence and mass murder. The state of Israel is intent on  using these measures to continually push the Palestinians  out. All this has been sponsored by the US who give them  massive military and financial aid in return for being their  watchdog in the region. The Palestinians who have only  stones to throw at Israeli western manufactured tanks and  helicopters have those who see suicide bombings as their  only line of defence.
 
  I know this is the standard view of events for those like me  but I don't see it any other way (but that's Jonesy the  dogmatic Marxist all over ha, ha). 
 
  
         
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           Meho Krljic
             from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-20 10:46 [#00226352]
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Yeah, yeah, we've been through this, actually, i was just  posting hoping to get some new sort of reaction... Have you  got my email? 
 
  
         
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           jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-20 10:51 [#00226363]
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You're such a tease Meho. I shall spank you to within an  inch of your life should you be such a brute again.
 
  Yes I've got your email. Thanks eternally for a very  comprehensive and cliche-free list. I appreciate the effort  and will act in faith upon your recommendations. I will  reply after a cigarette break; I need my fix until lunch. 
 
  
         
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           Meho Krljic
             from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-20 10:54 [#00226366]
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junkie. So young and already wasting your life away...
  Ahh, what do you mean my list was cliche-free? I used every  music-journalism clichee regarding free jazz I could think  of. And about that spanking, I'm looking forward to every  single spank of it... 
 
  
         
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           B3n
             from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-20 11:02 [#00226379]
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I read that same article jonesy..
 
  
         
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           jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-20 11:27 [#00226415]
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I'm ignorant of free jazz so your cliches went undetected.  You should have kept quiet and I would have elevated your  status in my mind. 
 
  
         
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           Meho Krljic
             from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-20 11:31 [#00226421]
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ah, shit, I thought you were just testing me..
 
  
         
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           Peter File
             from the future!!!  Ooooh chase me! on 2002-05-20 11:55 [#00226439]
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Yeah, I read that too.  It was at a CAmbridge Union debate.   He was asked who he'd most like to fight to the death; he  named Galloway and Fisk and said that he'd rather just shoot  them. 
 
  
         
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           jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-20 11:56 [#00226440]
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Was he just having a laugh? If i see him in Cardiff I'll  whoop his ass. 
 
  Erm, not really. I wouldn't even have the courage to call  him naughty names. 
 
  
         
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           Peter File
             from the future!!!  Ooooh chase me! on 2002-05-20 12:04 [#00226442]
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Here's the article where I first read about it.   There's a brilliantly hilarious quote from Galloway about  Malkovich:
 
  "Who can get inside the head of John Malkovich, a very  strange man offering a dangerous liaison - indeed, offering  a killing field?"  
 
  
         
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           jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-20 12:08 [#00226445]
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Cheers mate. What a tosser.
 
  
         
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