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What is Gabba?
 

rF : rob fragilenine from here on 2001-07-04 16:49 [#00012280]



What type of music is it? What does it most closely
resemble? I've heard it used so much but I don't know what
everyone's talking about! Could somebody explain?



 

João Evangelista from Portugal on 2001-07-04 17:37 [#00012288]



never heard of it


 

Joe on 2001-07-04 17:58 [#00012291]



Gabba is four/four techno, running at 200bpm plus (very
verryy fast), often horribly distorted, sometimes with crazy
dutch people swearing over the top. It\\\'s basically punk
techno. More often than not it\\\'s abysmal, but when it
occaisonally shines it can be f*cking brilliant fun. Get
\\\'Constant Mutation\\\' by Hellfish and Producer on Planet
U records for a demonstration of the correct use of gabba
beats. oh and its pronounced Hubba, cuz its Dutch.


 

Chilled from up in yo ass with the resurrection! on 2001-07-04 18:02 [#00012293]



who the fuck really knows what it is nowadays....didnt
someone classify Kid spatula's Hard Love as Gabba?


 

Miro from Cold Rush City on 2001-07-04 20:07 [#00012304]



Yoyoyo, here in Holland is it called "gabber", in english
they say "gabba", (pronounce: gebbah)

The guy in here that said gabba is 200bpm and more and
sounds very dostorted is wrong!

Gabba is most of the time around 160 to 180 bmp.
Gabba is the more normal type of hardcore. With nice
melody's and a hard kick. Check www.mastersofhardcore.com
and then check the Top-40. Here you will find lots of
realaudio files.

There are different types of hardcore.
For instance, Speedcore, which most of the time is distorted
hardcore around 210 bpm.

Then there is Terror or Terrorcore. This is the most crazy
type, 'cause of it's high bpm and distorted sounds. This is
weird shit. I don't like it.
It can take up to 300bpm.

Next there is Darkcore, this one is really great.
This is mostly slowtempo hardcore with dark sounds.
Sometimes experimental or industrial.
In the top-40 on the Mastersofhardcore website you will also
find some darkcore tracks.
But beware, also a lot of crappy gabba.

Good website to check is from the label from DJ Promo.
www.thirdmovement.nl
Listen to the realaudio samples from Catscan.
This will give you a little impression about Darkcore.

Hope you now know a little what "gabba" is.
If not, feel free to ask. :)



 

|REFLEX| from Western Canada on 2001-07-04 21:43 [#00012315]



Yeah who the hell knows anymore!?. Gabber has been around
for a long time, I never once called it Gabba!? Where did
that come from? Gabber is alright stuff.... not too bad
sometimes.


 

::praxis:: from beeeeep on 2001-07-05 07:20 [#00012356]



[arounf these parts ive only ever heard gabber.....these
parts being from new york down to florida. but its
irrelevant i suppose. gabber to me is the worst ever. if
anyone read my one post somwhere dissing the 4/4 beat in
electronic music, well, this takes the annoyance level of
that stuff to a new level. hearing that same beat so fast
and with such terrible kick sounds makes my head want to
die. and its not because i dont like loud or heavy or fast
music; im a gigantic fan of good industrial as well as alot
of hardcore. basically its a cheap excuse for dumb ravers to
think theyre being punk while still listening to shite. if
you want hardcore/punk/electro, pick up an atari teenage
riot album, or better yet, alec empire, who falls between
that kind of stuff and idm in my eyes....]


 

dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breathing fire on 2001-07-05 07:57 [#00012358]



not being rude mate but the punk scene kinda died out in the
late 80s and sortah only happened in the uk.
the stuff we here today (pumped out like cheese to the
hormonal pre pubescent teeny boppers) sounds like studioised
shit and doesnt realy stand for any real anarchistic cause.
as for electronic music such as gabba and other forms of
experimental music sounding shit? i suppose everything has
its own time and place but the concept of gabba is a whole
lot more original than some twat in a union jack t-shirt
wanking on about "takeing the power back"????


 

|REFLEX| from Western Canada on 2001-07-05 09:35 [#00012388]



Argh... the punk scene here is dead. They go around.. [these
are the "true" punks, that are hardcore and are "crust".
anyway..] and talk shit, and its lame cause they are such
hipacrites about it all. Nieve, and don't know. You know why
im critizing these groups of punks in my city?. Cause I used
to chill with tons of them. I was in hardcore/punk band, and
we put on and hosted many shows, and gigs over the while. We
were well known in my city of 890'000 people.

And yeah... so I got out of that whole scene, and some of
them are cool, about that and just in general. But the
majority of them are all.... like hes a sellout. They want
to be individuals, except they got all the same patches, all
the same style clothes, all the same style music, all the
same attitudes, even the beer! So.... there you go. The
punks I know [and this ofcourse could be different for any
of you elsewhere].. the punk scene,, yes died in the mid
80's. It became a unpopular fad.. if there is such a thing..
well in this case yes. So there you have it.


 

streamer on 2001-07-05 12:16 [#00012443]



What is Gabba?
Shit.
Music for mentalist skinheads with no soul or groove.


 

Scary Bear on 2001-07-05 14:34 [#00012472]



In Peter Symonds College (Winchester, Hampshire) punk is
still very much alive beleive me, but it's shite
nevertheless.


 

Mark from London on 2001-07-05 14:40 [#00012475]



Fuck you Punk Kicks ass to say bands like rancid is shit ,
is like saying your mums a bitch, you just don't fucking say
it. Punk fucking started the ball rolling for alternative
music such as the Sex Pistols if it wasn't for them we
wouldn't have Aphex Twin.


 

Frey Bentos from Chimp City on 2001-07-05 15:00 [#00012480]



No mate, if it wasn't for Kraftwerk and Dub we wouldn't have
the Aphex Twin. If it wasn't for the Sex Pistols we wouldn't
have turgid Camden guitar boys.


 

Scary Bear on 2001-07-05 15:20 [#00012481]



Why the fuck is that like calling my mum a bitch? Fuck that,
I am Portuguese and we are much more respectful towards our
parents than any of the English people I've met. If you want
to talk then fine, if you want to diss people for whatever
music they do and don't like then fuck off. This is an aphex
twin site in case you hadn't noticed and a wide variety of
tastes in music is to be expected.


 

Mark from London on 2001-07-05 15:40 [#00012483]



"Kraftwerk I would agree on but in dance terms the orbital
have great affects on the industry aswell, and scary bear
fuck you, I wasn't dissing your bloody parents or culture
you wanker I was mearly making a statement and to slam the
alternative scene is a fairly stupid thing to do and
pointing out that Im on an aphex twin site is another
mistake considering it is heavily alternative. also you seem
to have a go at me for slamming other peoples taste in music
but excuse me is that not what i have just picked you up on
"But its shite never the less" Wanker !!


 

|REFLEX| from Western Canada on 2001-07-05 17:01 [#00012515]



Punk has nothing to do with Aphex Twin, nothing. If your
coming here yes, youd better expect many different styles of
music to be liked/shared here. Scary Bear chill out, don't
get kicked.


 

Chilled from up in yo ass with the resurrection! on 2001-07-05 19:13 [#00012537]



wow,much punk hate i sense in this room..anyway rancid isnt
that bad...i sorta prefer ska now,punk has gone
downhill(pennywise=crap)

Remember when the Clash and Ramones were around?


 

Wizard MaC from Grijpskerke on 2001-07-05 21:14 [#00012552]



some years ago I was a gabber, listening to that boring BAM
BAM BAM 170 bpm+ music.


 

Scary Bear on 2001-07-05 22:34 [#00012563]



I'm back, far more chilled out.

Reflex: Cheers mate I'm cool


 

Scary Bear on 2001-07-05 22:36 [#00012564]



If any of you guys go to Lab4.com there you can check out
some truly decent tunes at high speeds.

Quite trippy, what dance tunes should be like in clubs.


 

Miro from Cold Rush City on 2001-07-05 23:40 [#00012587]



What are we talking about in here, punk or gabba?
Please stick a little bit to the topic. Thanx.
:-)

Yo Streamer. What you said there that gabba is for
skinheads.
You don't understand what you are saying man.

Often people see hardcore/gabba freaks as skinheads/nazi's,
but this is wrong, entirely wrong.
Ofcourse there are some people who are skinhead and think
they are gabba's or something, but they're not!
We don't want em in our scene.
They just fuck up everything.
Nowadays, luckily a lot of organisators now have
door-policy's at parties to prevent that skinheads will
appear on hardcore/gabba parties. This is a big step in the
good direction.

Skinheads are just losers who don't have their own opinion
about something.
Ask any skinhead why he/she is so hatefull against foreign
people. Most of the time you get the answer like "well, my
friends are against them, so am i too".
Could you spell W.a.n.n.a.b.e.!!!!!!!!!!
Phuckin' losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But don't say gabba is skinhead music or anything.
We don't like skinheads as much as others do.



 

Naphex-Male from Vancouver, Canada on 2001-07-06 00:00 [#00012600]



Here in Vancouver, "Goths" listen to gabber...It's kinda
funny! There is/was a night here at a the Purple Onion club
called Sanctuary...went there a few times. It was funny to
watch "the creatures of the night" dance to the stuff! As
far as Hardcore stuff, I once owned a funny little cd called
Terror Trance From Hell vol. 1.....it had some cool hard
beats on it.....wish I knew what happened to it! It had some
really sexy comic art on the cover too! Damn!


 

|REFLEX| from Western Canada on 2001-07-06 06:45 [#00012634]



NAPHEX: they have a PO there too? [Purple Onion!].... crazy
we got us one right by whyte ave. Cops there all the fucking
time. Goths here.,, stick to their ":goth;" stuff mostly.
gabber is for like tekked out acid heads, and baseheads.
Either way.. Whateva.




 

dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breathing fire on 2001-07-06 08:54 [#00012668]



i shave my head bold every 3 days and i listen to everything
from ragga, jungle, dancehall, techno, hardcore, oldskool
house, reggae, us/uk garage,
ambient-wierdness, disco, classical minamalist stuff, funk,
hip-hop, soul, acid house, northern-soul & even a bit of
gabba am i a nazi "sieg heil not!"


 

Wizard MaC from Grijpskerke on 2001-07-06 10:23 [#00012687]



BTW you guys who like gabber/hardcore stuff, check out
Neophyte!



 

wizards teeth on 2001-07-06 11:11 [#00012694]



Hey Wizard,

I seen Neophyte in scotland once he was brilliant.

I wanna see some live acts.

In edinburgh next weekend Dr. Macabre are playing a live
set. This should be good.


 

Mum-Ra The Ever Living on 2001-07-06 11:13 [#00012696]



Wrroooooaaaaarrrrrrhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!


 

dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breathing fire on 2001-07-06 11:50 [#00012705]



whos DR MACABRE


 

wizards teeth on 2001-07-06 12:03 [#00012709]



I have been informed that he is a french man also known as:

FRENCH CONNECTION

There are other names associated with him including -

1. PCP

2. Dance Ecstacy

3. SS

4. Beast

5. Lunatic Asylum

I don't know if these are his altered egos or record
labels.

But I am sure PCP has something to do with aphex twin ?

The event is on at the venue in edinburgh next friday night




 

::praxis:: from beeeep on 2001-07-06 18:33 [#00012893]



[first of all....um, i wasnt defending the punk scene or any
such nonsense...in fact, i despise most punk music and often
disrespect it openly. i was merely commenting on the mindset
of alot of the youth involved in the gabber trend, from my
experience and point of view. everyone is so famn defensive
here...christ. and, on another note, um, i was also talking
about atari teenage riot, who DO have a very obvious punk
influence, and a hardcore [not hardcore electro, hardcore]
influence, which is based and has its roots in punk, you
wanks. and if any of you actually listen to or have heard
any gabber, i think the comparison is obvious, not only in
musical style, but also in the associated culture. before
you get defensive and start preaching about punk to me,
maybe read what i wrote in context.]


 

Miro from Cold Rush City on 2001-07-06 20:52 [#00012904]



Yeah, DrMacabre is very cool.
If you can, check his live-performance.
He made a very good hardcore record called "Ghost Stories
Chapter 1".
With the all time favorite "Poltergeist".

DrMacabre is really Guilaume Leroux.
He is also the man behind Lunatic Asylum.
(from the early big trance hit The Meltdown)
Other projectnames from him are Manga Corps, French
Connection, DrMacabre, Renegade Legion, Powdered Toastman,
Slut Burger and some others.

Back in the days he made some records with the guys from
PCP.
They released his big hit "Poltergeist".

Also on Lenny Dee's I.S.T. label he released a record under
the name Manga Corps which is called Wardancer EP. This is a
co-up with France hardest producer, Manu Le Malin. :-)

DrMacabre recently had his own label called Haunted House
Records, on whcih he released two records. For now the label
is dead. I sure may hope he will continue in the future, but
it doesn't look good.
For info check http://lunatic.france-techno.com/
This is his homepage.
Don't get fucked or anything by the weird pictures or things
he says. This is only to shock people. :-)
Listen to the realaudio files, this guy is amazing.
And yes, he is a frenchman, but now lives in Holland.

And for the guy who said that PCP has something to do with
Aphex Twin.
Well just one time as far as i know.
Aphex Twin did two remixes of We Have Arrived.
(from Mescalinum United. = PCP)

To make some things clear about PCP, here is some info about
them.
PCP started in 1989 in Frankfurt, Germany.
Two friends who made music didn't want the bullshit with
releasing on other labels, so they started their own label,
called PCP = Planet Core Productions.
The mainlabel was called PCP.
Later on they started more labels for different styles. At
one time they had a number of labels.
The following labels : PCP, Dance Ecstasy 2001, Cold Rush
(Lost), Super Special Corp., No Mercy, Kotzaak Unltd,
Interzone, 100% Acidiferous, Fucking Loud, Thai, Future
World, Pretty Asshole, Floorfiller, Countdown FFM,
Adrenacrome, Tranceform, Techno Tribe, White Breaks, Test,
Narcotic Network Recordings, Powerplant, F.O.G., Elastic and
Dope On Plastic.
They also had teir own distributioncentre called PCD (Planet
Core Distribution)

The main man who produced the most for PCP was the man who
had started it all, Marc Acardipane.
Also known as The Mover and a number of other aliases.

At the end of 1996, beginning of 1997 the guys split up.
This was the end of the famous PCP movement.
Marc left Frankfurt and has moved to Hamburg. He still makes
music though. On his own label called Acardipane Records.
(which he started in 1997)

Ok, this is the story in a few? words.
:-)



 

|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-07-06 21:18 [#00012910]



i don't think ATR [atari teenage riot is gabber] but.. they
are good. I have 3 of their albums. I like them, have for
about 4 years now. Good stuff. Gabber is alright, there is a
time when it crosses over to Hardcore, with guitars and
shit.


 

Naphex-Male from Vancouflex, Canada on 2001-07-07 00:23 [#00012926]



True true REFLEX....ATR are great! Do you like ec8or? They
are way louder and distorted.....another good noisey act is
Faxed Head...weird band!
I'll check out Neophyte.....thanx! Peace.


 

|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-07-07 00:47 [#00012930]



Yeah those guys are pretty sweet. I can't think of this
one.. right now. There was one that crossed my mind before,
but now I can't seem to remember.


 

Scary Bear on 2001-07-07 01:14 [#00012935]



PLEASE DESCRIBE ATARI TENNAGE RIOT. Someone told me they
were crap then I saw Thom Yorke with an Atari Tee on later
with jules holland and thought that they must be better if
one of the (in my opinion) best musicians on earth likes em.


 

|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-07-07 01:41 [#00012939]



Scary Bear: Atari Teenage Riot is many different things, if
iam correct it is 2 guys and 1 girl. Or maybe 3 guys and 1
girl. Anyway, they are a mix of gabber - hardcore and metal,
and even some drum and bass. Very agressive, but great
tunes. Digital Harcore. Check it out man.


 


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