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1. I looked up this guy. was absolutely no surprise that he's a terminally online redditor that constantly posts about white privilege. I mean who else would be enough of a moron to think such a "protest" would make a difference? You don't even live in Isreal or Gaza, clown. Who ARE you talking to? You think nettin yahoo gives a fuck about a woketard setting himself on fire in the US? 2. With this in mind, I thought it would be OK to watch the video of him setting himself aflame. Cause hes a fucking moron, right. Boy, what a serious mistake. I watched it and the color drained out of my vision, I felt sick to my stomach. Dizzy. 2 days layer and I sorta can't get the image out of my mind. I don't care who you are, It's very bad to watch someone die like that. I don't think we're really equipped for it. If I could take it back I'd probably rather suffer a minor burn (picking up a too hot pan) than watch that or anything like it ever again. And that's today's Aphex Twin newz |
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Well, it's the Internet isn't it? |
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Yeah I learned the lesson ages ago that I personally don't wanna click stuff like that. I guess I needed a refresher, but it was a very unpleasant one. |
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Also it didn't make me respect his position even one ioata more. Rather I just wish he died in vain with his camera critcally malfunctioning. |
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First thought was he was severely depressed and mentally ill Did you see the cop pointing a gun at him saying "get on the ground" and the guy is completely consumed by flames screaming |
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Yeah, no training for that situation. Honestly he was so badly fucked up so fast the cop with the gun SHOULD have just shot him to put him out any potential misery. There was no coming back from that. |
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dont watch the video bros im not memeing. it's bad. |
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It sounds horrible and no, I can't take that sort of thing. At the end of it all it's just a sad story. He's no martyr, if anything it'll reinforce people's opinion that the Pro-Palestine, anti-White/Colonialism lot are whack jobs. |
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Yeah thinking about it the Cop must have been in shock. He should have done a mercy clipping but your mind doesn't work in situations like that, total mindfuck |
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Yeah I get the distinct feeling this was the last in a long line of things that pushed that guy over the edge. You don't self immolate unless you're mentally unstable I think for the simple reason that its an extremely unpleasant way to die. |
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And yes I know there have been principled martyrs throughout history but I think perhaps most of they were suicidal to begin with or had no way out of the situation they found themselves in. I think this is just indicative of the mental health crisis they have in the armed forces |
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I know its mental illness because I used to spend all my time listening to ideologues on social media myself |
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you watched it without the blur? |
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Rage Against the Machine cover |
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also the album cover |
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merm: yeah I did. I made a mistake and googled the full video. Like it would be funny or something. It wasn't at all. |
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if you want an odd one to watch without the blur, try the new zealand mosque shooter guy. he's all cheery and chipper throughout and sounds exactly like the EEVBlog guy narrating as he shoots people in the street [sort of like a croc hunter voice, you know] |
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the worst bit was after the camera panned away and he was screaming in torment, that's why I'm of the opinion its not worth burning yourself to death even over a pile of bombed dead babies |
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hype-flakes: It'd be hard to call him a martyr under any conditions cuz I feel martyrs have to already be an icon, already directly connected to this situation. A father who lost all his children in a war, a political dissident etc. This guy lived across the damn globe and had no involvement in anything relevant. Reddit 24/7 It was just a misguided play for attention, imo-- clearly he wanted to be SEEN as a martyr but he didn't understand the logistics. He may well have been mentally ill, but I read a bunch of his reddit posts (powers that be locked up his account now), up to and including the day he pulled his stunt. He had all sorts of interests related to racial and economic inequalities. Relatively few recent things to say specifically on Isreal and Palestine, though they were mentioned. His posts were cogent and full of the regular extreme progressive talking points; that is to say he was an easily identifiable reddit archetype. He was even talking about the Elden Ring DLC which is coming out, and it genuinely makes me sad that he won't get to play it. What could have made him snap in the course of a few hours? |
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Just waiting till someone does a slow motion grey scale edit with that "Sad World" acoustic cover over the top |
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I definitely skipped that mosque shooting bullshit. Did that video fuck you up in anyway? I'm being really honest here, this video fucked me up a bit. |
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Oh yeah i mean people who can do this can seem completely lucid, and rational on the run up to actions like this, but I don't think the act itself is capable from someone of a sound mind, i think you have to be on the way out mentally to even attempt it. |
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Its the act itself IMO that negates everything else, the rationalisations of the action, his personal beliefs |
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I could be wrong of course thats just how I feel about it. |
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I genuinely feel terrible for the guy, I know its a sick world and he must have felt it was an act of utter desperation cos he has no agency otherwise to do anything else that might help but it wasn't worth it |
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it's actually quite entertaining if you emotionally distance yourself from what's going on. which is not hard; it was just so utterly surreal didn't mess me up at all. it's like watching counterstrike vids on youtube. just pop and someone crumples there's no gore, really. watching someone burn will mess you up though, i don't watch that |
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Yeah i wonder how much it was like a snap decision to go though with that plan, someone might have said the wrong word to him that day, and that was the straw that broke the camel's back I think about these things quite a bit. If it passed his life would have just continued |
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I totally agree. I feel really bad too. Having read some of his posts, it's like--- if he JUST cared about this one thing thing, ok. I kinda get it. But motherfucker was talking about the price point value of the Elden Ring DLC (out june 20th) like he was gonna play it. Makes you wonder if at the last moment he realized what a catastrophic fuck up he made, and that is a very, very unpleasant thought. Even if he was a total idiot, I hope his conviction never wavered at the end. |
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these things are never a snap decision. people nurse these plans over weeks, months. the confusion arises from the fact that yes, there is something that pushes them over the edge to finally do it. there was some high-roller gambler that started shooting up a concert from comp'd a las vegas hotel room one day, no one could figure out a reason, and it's like "well we think he was basically out of money and someone said something to him in the lobby after he lost a lawsuit slipping on a drink" and so it's kind of YES to everything: YES he planned this for ages, YES it's because he ran out of money YES it's because he was mad over some lawsuit, and YES some random trivial shit finally triggered the actual event. where he shot 50 people at random the problem is no one cares about these people until they go over the edge. oh, you're not suicidal? then fuck off it can't be too bad and one day it is |
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Yeah I agree i suppose what I meant to say is snap to go into full action rather than putting it off again, he must have had the idea for a long time, but there can be instance where people are either committed to doing it for a long time or are still wavering and something my push them over the edge, i just wonder which one it was |
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Yeah if it came out a while sooner he might have just played that and tried to put Gaza/reddit to the back of his mind. I know there is the old adage where that say "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" but whoever wrote that quote didn't take into account the utter intractability of the middle east issue. |
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yeah "Idle hands do the Devil's work." Good expression. Take those idle hands and make a tune. Or play . (Directly recommend, Obra Dinn Fill-In-The-Blanks like) I have to put my idle hands to work taking my wife for her blood tests (routine, all is well aside from her bum knee and that's cuz were all just getting old). Always nice to have a chat w u hyperflake. |
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Thanks mate, yeah i think everyone is of the same mindset that its a tragic thing and wish it didn't occur it was quite harrowing to see the vid I must admit and I've seen loads of bad shit on the net. |
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the only one I laughed at was when the Chinese guy jumped into a crucifix of motel metal to commit suicide. Wife must have been nagging him and home. Anyway he instantaneously exploded into smithereens and it was so unexpected you couldn't help but laugh in a dark way. Life is utterly absurd half the time |
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i meant crucible of molten metal |
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oh yeah his name was Wang Long no joke and he lost money on the stock market |
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your error brings his family *great shame* |
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"To burn oneself by fire is to prove that what one is saying is of the utmost importance. There is nothing more painful than burning oneself. To say something while experiencing this kind of pain is to say it with utmost courage, frankness, determination, and sincerity." - Thich Nhat Hanh in a letter to MLK Jr. regarding the self-immolation of Vietnamese Buddhist monks |
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i thought he was just some mindfulness guy |
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Rest in power Aaron Bushnell from a source he probably read, because he send the link to his stream to them "If your heart is broken by the horrors in Gaza and you are prepared to bear significant consequences to try to stop them, we urge you to do everything in your power to find comrades and make plans collectively. Lay the foundations for a full life of resistance to colonialism and all forms of oppression. Prepare to take risks as your conscience demands, but don’t hurry towards self-destruction. We desperately need you alive, at our side, for all that is to come." |
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somewhat of a different kind of take, by Bad Empanada: |
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