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safe ways to earn cash?
 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-12 07:15 [#02631930]
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cash only!!
need money, cant use banks or paypal.
grapeful for any suggestions.
ty


 

offline RussellDust on 2024-01-12 12:26 [#02631932]
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You know where this is going don’t you?


 

offline RussellDust on 2024-01-12 12:27 [#02631933]
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I guess make sure they wear a condom.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-01-12 12:39 [#02631937]
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learn to count cards and play blackjack?


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-01-12 12:41 [#02631938]
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maybe less safe but slip on some stairs and collect the
disability


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-12 15:21 [#02631947]
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then id only have to watch out for cops, robbers and the
organized crime. but id take any suggestions really.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-12 15:22 [#02631948]
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im already sort of disabled, dont want to make it any worse.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-12 15:23 [#02631949]
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only with a brain uprade and faster legs.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-12 15:27 [#02631950]
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it would have to be something i can do or sell in the
limited free time i have. since i already have a job.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-12 15:29 [#02631951]
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now there is a lot of frost these days and many people dont
secure their pedestrian walks with salt and gravel. but
nooo.


 

offline obara from Aalsmeer on 2024-01-12 20:35 [#02631952]
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get another job ? dunno how disabled you are :) and how many
another jobs German work system allows. Good luck:]


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-13 09:22 [#02631963]
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thats the tricky part.
im not capable of working full time.
that would be 38,5 min. per week.
in reality more like 42+ per week in germany.
by international standards thats low.
but im not entirely disabled and im capable of working
20 hrs. per week all year and be good.
i do work every week day, 10-20 hours a week.
which earns 520€ tax free, so i get additional welfare.
about the same amount and that works great.
as long as i dont get into debt.
however if i earned any more,
id only be able to keep 20 ct per any additional euro,
and 10 ct every euro exceeding 600 total income.
that may include selling stuff on the internet,
like bandcamp, e-bay if you resell stuff
and basically any bank transfers.
so, once in debt there is hardly any way
to get out of it.
it gets even worse when you live with a
partially disabled partner aswell.
because if one of us would earn a minimum wage part time
job around 1300, the state would deduct any welfare for the
partner.
so, lets say i earned too much in one month and would lose
welfare,
then id have to pay back parts of health insurance, pay
taxes and my partner would receive less welfare. meaning
that instead of having a combined income of 2000+ euros
(incl. welf.) wed end up only having about half of that.
after cost of living we usually have about 100€ each for
saving and fun.
so savings arent there. unless you find other ways.
im grateful for our system, it has a few flaws though.



 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-13 09:27 [#02631964]
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tldr:
-cannot keep any additional income.
-cant work enough to have more than combined
job and welfare.
-LAZY_TITLE


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-01-13 12:09 [#02631965]
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it's hard. many fall outside what the system the demands.
the system could be worse, as you say, but also it should be
way better (imo, i'm for socialism)

myself, i barely keep up with the demands, but do make
enough money. i'm privileged, i can say, though i do try to
give back to society

i don't know good ways to make some extra money. legal ways
pay very little (and there's the risk that you lose
welfare). (am not knowledgeable on less legal ways)

best i can think of is finding mutual aid kind of things:
collectives that cook together and buy food in bulk for that


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-01-13 12:11 [#02631966]
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and those aid things could also possibly help with
overcoming difficulties stemming from disabilities

this sort of stuff i know more from theory than that i've
dabbled into them myself. thought i've been involved in
action work, that also values taking care of each other


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-14 17:30 [#02631971]
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thx for the heads up,
sharing and saving money would be helping.
just hope ill get the usual support. its highly unusual,
not having received any funds for 2,5 months and going.
not a good sign, but fingers crossed..


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-01-15 07:05 [#02631973]
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you're literally in a precarious situation

who knows, possibly there's also funds for specific things,
like for when you need a new washer or something (besides
not-funds, but orgs, that give free food)


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-15 07:31 [#02631974]
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you can get these funds, but one time only when you move
out.
never needed any of that, because my family hooked me up
with used stove, fridge and washing machine back when i
moved out.
after that you are supposed to build your own safety funds
to replace broken household equipment. but there is goodwill
places to get all those for 100€ each. usually really old
stuff but its functional and thats what matters. then there
is ads. we buy everything from ads, dirt cheap.
and we have everything, im more afraid, that something went
wrong and id have to pay back thousands, because of
bureaucracy and unfair stupid fines.



 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-01-15 07:50 [#02631975]
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when my wife (then gf) had to apply for welfare she had to
go to two different institutions. jobcenter and welfare
center, which is mandatory if you lose your job. she got a
job second month of receiving a combination of welfare and
unemployment support (because unemployment support is only a
third of what your previous job was (around 960€)
immediately she gave notice of her new job and gave a copy
of her contract to the welfare center. now the 100€ from
unemployemnt benefits from jobcenter arent needed anymore.
the very next month one or both institutions notice she was
"overfunded" 100€ and it was deducted and paid back
immediately. she also gave a copy of her new contract to
jobcenter. the trainee at jobcenter refused to stamp her
contract as acknowledgement of reception, claiming it has a
name on the stamp and she doesnt want that or sth.

one full year later she received a letter accusing her of
fraud over that 100€. she was supposed to explain herself
on the matter and or pay a fine, which could be up to a few
thousand €.
we spent months explaining that and still ended up paying a
150€ fine almost 3 years later. in between we had applied
for a lawyer and took lots of paid support. huge waste of
tax money and we lived in fear and anger over sth, because
the two institutions dont work together and a delayed
document.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-02-06 21:47 [#02632333]
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Happy to say, it all turned out well and i can buy vine
eeels.


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-02-07 04:54 [#02632341]
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woop


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-02-07 04:56 [#02632342]
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this happens in the Netherlands as well. one such case, the
'Dutch childcare benefits scandal' hit thousands of people and so was able to
become a national scandal. but these systems will always
turn into this, when there isn't strong, more leftwing,
opposition (not just politically, but throughout society)


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-02-07 07:32 [#02632345]
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wow, havent heard about that
one.juzmkejhsdgjfdkrtgijrfjhrfcifufikfic
excuse me, wife was typing, lol


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-02-07 07:42 [#02632346]
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the idea to support only those in need is right,
but it usually is complicated.
some say its institutional that it is that complicated.
not sure about this one, but it makes sense for the
government to be measured in the money in and out. now,
beaurocracy and jobs behind welfare systems and everything
involved unemployment are way too overcumbed and expensive
aswell.
the success rate of putting people into work with it is more
than questionable. especially considering that huge parts of
beneficiants are chronically ill or disabled.



 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-02-07 08:02 [#02632348]
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there is the idea of having a free income of about a
1000€.
many people have been calculating this back and forth.
my bank and the ceo of a nationwide drugstore amongst other
skilled people estimate it would cost the state a billion to
support every german citizen with a 1000€, but effectively
that sum shrinks down to 250 million € on the household,
because it is taxable income for those who earn more than
minimum. then low income families and persons would benefit
greatly and would be free to choose what they want to do for
a living instead of being forced to do bullshit jobs. some
people argue, no one would work anymore, but thats bullshit,
you would definitely have to do something in addition,
because hardly anyone can live on a 1000€ here.
out of all persons i know no one would be happy with living
on a 1000€.
so you would save many many millions in beaurocracy, no one
would have to live in fear. people could be employed or
choose to do work they like. it would greatly increase the
umber of self employed people in startups and it would
greatly decrease the number of job related illness in the
country, which could effectively decrease health care cost.
i still consider this a radical approach with lots of hidden
variables, but i truly believe that its worth a shot. is
this discussed in your countries aswell?


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2024-02-12 20:43 [#02632544]
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whilst reading your post i had a strong synaesthetic
reminder of the crumble atop the blueberry crumble that i
ate last night


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2024-02-16 20:06 [#02632630]
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ok srs
everyone is doing this. like /everyone/.... what can you do
that will be different? sit down and have a good long hard
think about it, take your time.

otherwise it is pennies, or basically stupid hours for what
you could get at a basic job with constant cat'n'mouse type
optimisation required.... so do yourself a favour and use
your imagination.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2024-02-16 20:10 [#02632631]
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>>UBI
or you could just sign on, whatever


 


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