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let the wokie win |
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I thot you had to treat all people and living life forms the same. None better, none worse |
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please answer my question |
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EfffffNo. Wookie lyves matter more |
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you're on it this morning i "let the wokie win" from the same part of my brain that cool band names. then i thot: wait, crap... does that come across as a slur against black people? and this is not simple, if you think on it 1) is black person / wookie actually a slur? 2) this doesn't specifically mention black people? 3) so if you're offended by this, i guess you think black people own the woke movement? because then you're treating woke and black as fungible. on top of assuming wookie is a slur¹. this means what you've done here, th4dDd30uS, is to leap a few neurons over and imply that black lives matter and woke are fungible. except black lives matter is clearly black anyways i was just curious how peopled parsed it and that is actually a solid response, for, i dunno, kind of taking the pH reading of it ¹ i don't feel like it is? chewbacca was tall as a baller and brown so i think everyone simply makes the mental association naturally. but wookie is a silly word, everyone loves chewbacca. slurs are supposed to be mean and this is somewhat charming and cuddly |
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I thot you had to treat all people and living life forms the same. None better, none worse ha! yesterday, i thot: "you know what? i've not used the AI stuff to do absolutely anything mean or sketchy at all."² then i'm thinking: my cool band names, that stuff, they're really not mean or racist or anything. it's because when one that's genuinely terrible came out, i thot, "oh, no, that's dreadful, i can't use that one" and eventually it learned that these would typically be sent back to the kitchen and i began to get far less of them. that i'm down to edge cases like this, really. that i am not a chatbot, but i have trained a weasel that genuinely loves sitting in his workshop generating cool band names and feels that mean ones detract from the purity of the silly ² i should try asking it how to make meth or a bomb, or a meth bomb, actually, to ensure there aren't still some built-in limits i've not noticed since i'm nice |
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that there's another layer. it sounds like the sort of thing that could be a meme phrase meaning "eyeroll; it's not worth arguing with the woke -- let them have it and move on" 1. you simulate the person writing "let the wokie win" as you parse it -- all of you did; think back on it B. since it sounds like some q-anon polar opposite of, er, the woke, and these people very well might think woke-ology is the same thing as BLM and, thus, before even perceiving a conscious impression, you've made a judgement about who's saying this and glued it into a dictionary of how these sorts think and talk. and these are all stereotypes, in a sense -- be careful what you put down there dear geoffrey hinton: once a chatbot can explain why "let the wokie win" might be considered offensive, then we have something. your joke thing has thoroughly been shot down in recent weeks; give me a crack |
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anyways i'd appreciate big's thoughts. if only to the first post in the thred [i dislike assigning homework] |
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i think this thread has been a very striking example of the maxim "if you have to ask then yes" |
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i gather you're used to having things you say make sense to other people. i've said very offensive things that offended no one, because no one understood. if you look through the mental gymnastics of what you have to get through to find the phrase of discussion offensive, i think it's genuinely interesting as a case study w/rt how much active processing one does when reading without even noticing. |
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you also have to get the reference to the original star wars meme. adding -ie for "wokie" is a diminutive thing like -chen in german and thus it has a belittling tone to start with. then you're on xltronic reading an epicmegatrax thred, and that's been factored in as well. i'm used to looking at it as part of asking, "will people get that?" ...or is it too many leaps, as i'm listing out. recycle's kneejerk reaction was more what i wanted. like i set off a little grenade in that area of his brain and he landed at "wookie lyves" and i nod, like, alright, it's offensive because he posted in a very free and direct way, no thot whatsover, and he landed there. a sort of pH reading, like i said. and it answered my question |
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WEAVE SYNDICATE [...is that in the cool band names thread? i think it's just something i texted someone around five years ago] how about that? there's this thing in the south where black ladies wear fancy fake wigs called "weaves" and i replied WEAVE SYNDICATE in response to being texted about a WEAVE HEIST -- seriously, they stole thousands of dollars worth of weaves. those things are no joke but i don't think it's offensive because a) it's so flagrantly absurd to be funny even if you don't get that b) weaves are a thing in the south welcome to my life. |
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...if i opened with WEAVE HEIST and [reader] knows how genuinely expensive weaves can be, [reader] will know that this could be a real event: "that happened over there a few years back, yeah" i then go from WEAVE HEIST to WEAVE SYNDICATE, [reader] would be like "lol wtf that's wacky" and not even realize this stemmed from two very silly gentlemen texting back and forth and trying to one-up each other with absurdity: the WEAVE SYNDICATE fomented the WEAVE HEIST. oh. there is logic to this no? alright |
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...WEAVELORD i'm going to text him that right now |
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now i can't stop. i'm changing to go out for a bit and: well, the WEAVELORD may run the WEAVE SYNDICATE but he's not as big as the WEAVE CARTELS and then we have the bond villian level, W.E.A.V.E. of course you need a matching arc of law enforcement agencies to counteract this hierarchy, with Intergalactic Weave Command at the top of the pyramid. see if you can work your way back down to the street from there |
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see if you can work your way back down to the street from there tried this myself on a walk, and it's not easy. it's actually quite a bumpy ride getting busted down all the way from INTERGALACTIC WEAVE COMMAND to a mere WEAVE CADET. like: WEAVE DETECTIVE? that's crap. it has no sauce. maybe if we go british? WEAVE INSPECTOR -- yes, money ...what were we talking about again? oh, right. is INTERGALACTIC WEAVE COMMAND offensive? ....because it completely excludes those who wair a hairpiece instead? |
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It's sometimes worthwhile to be offensive to broad groups/ people who identify foremost as group x. Not for their immutable traits mind you, but for their consistently self righteous and authoritarian attitudes. I don't respect your stupid lame ass group, whatever it is, whatever you "identify as". But it's almost always rude to be offensive directly to an individual, unless they really have it coming. |
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I think the most pathetic thing from the woke area is the notion of being in a "protected group because I identify as x." What a fucking beta bitch concept. |
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was originally gonna be a nicer one in SF (a short ferry ride from my buddy's house) but I opted for this closer one in the east bay that he vouches for. It's probably better for a beginner and less $$$ for something I might end up hating. We'll see how it goes. |
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^mispost. Sushi post. |
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extra points for me catchup up to thad's 40k |
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> I don't respect your stupid lame ass group, whatever it is, whatever you "identify as". how feel you about california's potential slavery reparations? |
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even the most hardline liberals around here think it's the stupidest thing ever. Newsome walked it back after how crazy the "reparations task force" suggestions got. it was like $5 million for any black resident that had a family member as a slave (we're talking what... 5-6 generations out?) elimination of child support debt for black residents people on the reparations panel were even saying shit like . It's just embarrassing man. How can I vote for any progressive when they're like this. I don't WANT chris christie either (I think you made a funny analogy that he's like a lead pipe wielding goon, agreed), but this shit is way more annoying to me. |
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i went on some long rant about it, so i was kind of curious. that, yes, it was just because i wrote forever. so i'll sum it up: - the danger of money has no skin color. if you write checks to people en masse for more than a few grand you're getting children drunk in a wood cabin and giving them matches. i think i said anything more than $5k is insane to send anyone because a drug hobby could become a habit and etc - the disconnection between the guilty, the recipients, and the crime. it was all a long time ago. some black people were... oreos? and profited off of slavery. like the danger of money, greed gets all races here and there. so how do you determine that these turncoats don't get the payout? but this is just an attempt at crystallizing how this is actually pretty random and probably mostly not going where it should - it will bring nothing but resentment from people paying taxes seeing their neighbor buying a new car just because they're black. that's just fucking unfair |
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as a california resident, can you please, for the love of synthesizers, get them to stop putting that fucking P52 warning tag on EVERYTHING, and just, ugh, this is a patch cable? you hippie shits? recently i went on a tear and went about the house removing all the warning labels from, like, everything. i've ignored them for too long |
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DO NOT REMOVE THIS WARNING LABEL why? in case i forget that slamming an electrical cable in a door is bad, and all the time i spend reading and re-reading these labels will help? at least that can be explained by lawyers and liability. the p52 tag is probably responsible for tons of environmental waste because of all those fucking warning tags on everything. take that. |
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what ACTUALLY offends you epic? It can't honestly be the p52 warning tags--- most people would just ignore those. I'm trying to think for my own case. One time someone here, probably in 2010 or so said "oh Wolfslice- that's the guy who likes ICP? no one should listen to anything he says, ever." I forget who said it. I found that offensive, or at least, my feelings were slightly hurt, at the time. But that's cause there wasn't even any humor in it. Just kind of a piece of shit thing to say. Marlowe says a good deal of humorless piece of shit sanctimonious stuff, which is why I single him out a bit. But it's gotta be a direct personal insult. To be offended though? Fucking glad your offended, fuck off. This where we're at right now in the US and I believe the wokest peeps in Western Europe as well. |
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you're. |
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you just see someone with that hairstyle in the photo and it's like a poisonous snake. do not approach for any reason |
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that hair used to mean like punk, anti authority etc. now it means maximum authoritarian borderline ccp shill, disagree and you're a nazi |
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what ACTUALLY offends you epic? It can't honestly be the p52 warning tags--- most people would just ignore those. yes. there is one reason that should be entirely understandable to people here: WARNING TAGS ON EVERY PATCH CABLE MEAN WARNING TAGS EVERYWHERE BECAUSE PATCH CABLES ARE EVERYWHERE that, exactly, i ignored them. then suddenly, there are just so many, and i saw the fnords, and FUCK these things are everywhere and they're just such useless crap? so, second reason, still understandable: this is simply putting more plastic trash in the ocean. because they're always these impossible, tenacious, superglued loops third reason: when you want to remove them, they're ^^ 3a) annoying as shit 3b) leave residue fourth reason, perhaps harder to grok: your mind is processing everything in your field of view at least somewhat, and, i dunno, if you had me come around and remove all the things i didn't approve of, stopping at minor changes like removing labels, your feeling would be, like "i feel relieved for some reason" ...and the ones on window fans and extension cables, that's because of idiots and lawyers and idiots with lawyers. but the p52 tag is like just like CALI LAW SEZ THIS MIGHT and, you know what? either get it banned or stfu. because the warning genuinely has no impact as anyone, and adds to the contents of landfills. and it's ugly, and when it's on every patch cable in a pack you're fucking batshit yo? |
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lol. well, I'll officially withdraw the claim that the p52 tags can't be an offending agent. |
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gotta look at it long term at some point in earth's history, humans will be completely extinct. the p52 tags will have been long degraded, the elements put back to use through natural processes. human made climate change will equalize and correct itself. the earth will warm (warmer than now) and cool many times over the sun will engulf the earth as a red giant, deleting our planet. the sun will die the universe will reach a heat death equilibrium. is it nilhilism or straight up facts? were too focused on right now and some little tag right infront of us. |
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and also if your view is that the spent p52 tags are going to make it worse for earth's life in say, 2 generations what about 2 generations previous? The people that haven't been born yet are the same as those who have already died. They don't exist. And why is 2 generations ahead more valuable to us than 20 generations ahead? It's a psychological trick. King's statistically more likely to kill off 2nd cousins than immediate family. We're designed to look to the near future, but it's just a innate, evolved preservation mechanism, it has no meaning beyond the subjective. |
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gotta look at it long term .... is it nilhilism or straight up facts? were too focused on right now and some little tag right infront of us. you've failed to consider another option: what if this is all a simulation? within a simulation? within a simulation? ...because, if you consider it possible we're all living in a simulation, then you're forced to conclude it's just as possible the simulation of the universe could contain other simulations of the universe and can we get something like the drake equation to determine approximately how many layers deep we are? you'd obviously need to use limits |
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and also if your view is that the spent p52 tags are going to make it worse for earth's life in say, 2 generations that part was really more, "...and i can think of another reason, that, while not particularly on my mind, should kick the cali hippies right in their... ego" |
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well, I'll officially withdraw the claim that the p52 tags can't be an offending agent. on every patch cable in a pack; this is a system run amok. that i was normal and ignored them. in fact, i literally did not consciously see them. they'd been there for a while and were tuned out p52 overdid it to such an extent that it blocked my view of what i was doing, and at that point it was all ruined and i just saw warning labels everywhere i looked. i removed them all, and mused, "it feels like the house just took a dump; it feels relieved." or it was smoother. i dunno. i'm just a cybernetics researcher |
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Q: P52? A: Weave better things to do |
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The hippies all became yuppies over 40 years. Went from freewheeling love and peace to shareholder meetings about p52 tag litigation. What happens to the woke progressives in 40 years tho? Nowhere to go but up, I'd say. |
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Hunter s Thompson pinpointed the exact turning point and turned it into a true work of art. Then he had the foresight to off himself before this terrible 2nd wave hit in full force. |
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yes, yes, see dennis hopper going from easy rider to pharmaceutical commercials. arguably the greatest generation is who got us into space; the children of the 60s just went and did loads of drugs on haight-ashbury and then turned into that do not have high hopes for the "the woke progressives in 40 years tho" |
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thompson killed himself because he was in constant physical pain, miserable, and his suicide note was something like, "i already gave you bastards ten more years than i wanted to stick around, i can't do anything anymore, stop being selfish and let me go" and it actually strikes me as one of calmest, orderly suicides on record. he called his wife to say goodbye, but didn't upset her. someone heard the gunshot but thought it was a book falling off the shelf. johnny depp spent millions giving him the funeral he wanted. i know it's strange to say this and mean it as a compliment, but i think he did a very good job. respectful, tidy, no loose ends |
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contrast that to gen x's kurt cobain, where people will be forever arguing and dreaming up conspiracy theories. my personal take: courtney love was bored of him and he might have lived if he'd found another solid girl. but meanwhile he fucking hated fame and people were trying to get him off heroin as he was increasingly on more. he did the math after escaping some facility and concluded he'd get chained up again, and that was it. but he never explained it, he was running from those around him at the time, and so it's this mess that's frustrating to everyone. thompson, though, you just sadly nod and say, "i understand, i understand" and "i've given you 17 years i didn't want, stop being selfish" is like: i know you love me, and i stuck around because i love you for as long as i could tolerate. that emotions of his family would still be what they would be but somehow that might have taken some of the sting out of it |
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prince is another one. i think his handlers cut him off from his usual supply of opiates in an attempt to get him sober, so he went over to dodgy fake oxy pills. someone were weak and did nothing, others a double dose. he knew what he was doing with opiates, but he was a little dude, and the inconsistent mix on his dodgy pills walked him right into an OD. if his minders had let him keep on the good shit he might still be around. is this a controversial opinion? totally serious about this |
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