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is capitalized because the mix is LOUD (and the fees are financed as part of the loan). i'll leave the gear on and maybe try for another version tomorrow |
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the verizon are cunts well done. I’d buy the 12” |
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I stand by what I said in the middle of the night; that’s a good ep/full release and I’d buy a physical format, even if it’s not on rephlex, skam or warp. |
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I stand by what I said in the middle of the night; that’s a good ep/full release and I’d buy a physical format, even if it’s not on rephlex, skam or warp. it would be something if i could afford tape, because then... the whole process, down to vinyl, could be completely free of being run through a computer at any point. but i can't, and it goes from stereo out to computer, and a physical release, why? i don't even have a working turntable anymore buy the bandcramp, perhaps, because then you can get it in lossless and the difference between that and 128k matters much more than physicality and then, oh, should i stop there? because this is just... remember i said, "ohh, i'm just going to upload stuff to bandcramp as i record it to an undefined album; every now and then hide the crap ones as bonus tracks [still there if you buy it] and push out album" ?? that's what the purple bandcamp cover means thanks, tho. i've not been feeling aphex's recent release of analord 37; i want something with more action an explosions. nevenen has you covered |
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You’re welcome. I already have Analord 38 thru 43 But never saw 37 wtf? |
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oh, well, i liked syro. there were some chunky breaks on there. the track -- is it called barcelona or was it just played in barcelona -- like, yes, absolutely, this is good. but you wouldn't blink if he said "oh yes that was an analord track i lost behind the ottoman, i was vacuuming one day and the DAT clogged it" ok [searchy] rfc pt8 RFC, that stands for Request For Comment, ok: absolutely the only thing i'm motivated to lift from this is the echoing on the kick drum at the start. deplorable |
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the joke there is i've already stolen the rest, or at least what is to my tastes i'm really not sure of the right tone to discuss this. sometimes i'm just amusing myself being a dick, but when i'm like "yeah i'm on soulseek every other day trawling japanese speedcore" i was dead serious -- it's not something i planned or did to be ironic or some shit, it really was: "I FUCKING LOVE THIS" and oh well i'm used to being a bit odd. i did love syro |
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so -- big -- where were we? i was talking about a ravewavedonk before i tempbanned myself for everyones' sake. i promptly went back to the wavestation and went off on a tangent making other stuff and i still haven't gotten around to it, but it's a solid idea for whenever the strange fickle machine at the back of my brain decides to vomit the patch into the EX meanwhile -- check out my wavestation ohh-oh patch in here; beefy. a little T99 in that |
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~ i used to get in a mood and rearrange everything every four months. but about all that's changed since this is the digitakt went up onto the shelf right behind it and the 303 is where it was now. and the wavestation is behind me and the casio is off to my right. and that's it, that's everything, no edits; i'm too lazy. if anyone cares. i've been so into the 303 that i've not been playing live keys much. hmmmm |
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that i was just sitting in the corner by the fan and stretching my back out, and oh, i have BOOTY HAVEN stuck in my hea- oh, no, wait, that's the version with the different notes i've been working on today. and i can hear it in my hed. and, oh, what if i opened with the 303 and the wavestation? that sounds good when i try it (in my head, stretching my back) and then i'm listening to it (in my hed) and yeah, actually, i should try moving the 303 up an octave so it's more like in sharks and it does kind of piss me off that i'm barely making it on a consulting gig and now i should probably find another salary thing, not have much time for music again. and i still won't be able to afford a tape machine i have a shorter answer, recycle: i am not going to press up vinyl, because no one would buy it, because i'm not aphex. when he puts out a good album, i have the decency to just say, "wow, that's a good album" and be quiet about being pissed off. but |
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i still need to listen to the album. is it out? did i listen to collapse? i'm actually not sure. again, this was not a planned thing, i just lost track of it anyways, i'll give it a chance and listen to it if when it is/was/will be/has been out. but i heard rfc pt8 and just. get a job you ginger landlord |
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if you didn't like the latest aphex release there is always nevenen. but no physical release sorry. why? because he doesn't have a turntable that's why |
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it's because no one buys records from anyone except aphex and maybe recycle is just trolling me to get me to blow a bunch of cash i'll never recover in sales. how the fuck do i do international shipping to belgium or some shit anyways? i'm happier not knowing beyond that, you can buy it in FLAC. i've been clear about my methods and, i dunno, can we get sean booth to buy it and say, "yes it actually does matter to get this in FLAC instead of the 128kb preview stream" ?? or any independent analysis from anyone that would be trusted by Real Heads |
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what format do you upload it in? |
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WAV |
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alright, i'll go... technical details well, i had a fireface 800 once? and it sounded, like, FFFFUUUcking good? then everything went to shit and i had to sell it to some guy in russia on ebay? now: coming out of a yamaha mixer's built-in USB, which sounds... decent, really! but having had a fireface... yeah. it ain't fucking that. 44100 because i don't want to fuck with sample rate conversion. it's probably 24bit but i should double check but then i'm going to the 128kb bandcramp generates and i'm like "so what'd it do to my music this time" like a crabby frank zappa. but about as best i can do is shake my head and say "no, no, that's not as nice." so. bearing in mind the limits of the equipment i have, yes, i feel it makes a difference. and i want tape because a) i like to record all the levels really hot and it will distort instead of brappa krak b) in a world where, like, vinyl is unflinchingly pressed from 128kb mp3s, what the fuck does vinyl mean anyways? that this was not the point, but the way i work, write, record... i just use the computer as a tape machine anyways? the only part that will kill me is keeping track of physical tapes. that is much easier on computer tlder: i can fucking hear a difference between the 128kb preview and lossless, and it's worth it. but having had to sell off a fireface 800, i should note it's not like, that good. because i can't afford shit like that. please buy my album so i can get a tape machine, because it's actually a better fit than the fireface |
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i really don't know shit about tape in a specifications sense. 1" -- that's the good tape, right? really, it's my understanding that you can get a 16 track machine, one inch tape or whatever, reel to reel, and everyone's always screaming at me to record stems instead of just a mix and if you really really want me to that, 16 track tape is the only way i will bother. because it's a natural extension of how i have things set up and never mind. i'm just dodging work now anyways. i should stop |
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where did you get the idea that vinyl is pressed from 128kb mp3 |
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an interview with mike paradinas about his juke music records. something like, "...well he lost the fruityloops project! it wouldn't have been out on vinyl otherwise!" it's really a "nice to have" not some urgent goal, but it's like... yes... it's all analog up to the computer anyways... with tape... lots of badgering people to not bounce it... entirely analog from the voltage in my faders to the mastering guy yelling my shit is too loud it's bouncing around |
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i mean, let's bury the whole arc with mike p calling my shit "last-century music" in, i dunno, 2010 or some shit? i've fixed that; it's less stilted now. i mean, it's funny, i think all the DDR japanese speedcore i've been talking about has some commonalities but then going up as president of IDM labels and saying "yeah we pressed this vinyl from a youtube rip" is like, stop hitting yourself. why are you hitting yourself that's an extreme example and i figure something planet mu only resorts to for footwork release. i hope. but 90% of people do it all on a laptop and the other 10% record their analog to computers like i do and it goes through sixteen more computers before vinyl and you've lost me what's the point it's probably bastardly annoying to actually try and... like i said, badger people DO NOT FUCKING BOUNCE IT YOU'RE RUINING IT because it's how everyone does everything now but that's if anyone even cared that far. it would just suit my workflow and the stuff on bandcramp would sound better, i'd start to get into multitrack and overdubs |
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that, oh. say, miraculously, i have a tape machine and enough free time to use it, and i manage to bludgeon it all the way to vinyl, while having not only prevented anyone from running it through a computer, but also taking care people don't wantonly bounce it, as mentioned, because generations of copies etc. and suddenly i'm not kicking a WAV file out the door, it's like i'm literally bushwhacking a direct trail to the recipient of the vinyl. this is on top of the excitement of... will i feel it? and i'm genuinely not sure there. perhaps i'll put it on and merely say "this sounds wonderful and that was a journey but it merely sounds wonderful and i was hoping for..." or maybe it'll be wonderful and direct. i'm curious how it'd pan out related -- kanye west is scary mental ill now, but that little puck he put an album out on -- i love that because it's a guaranteed experience. like, the sound system comes with the album and no one [my personal most hated thing] plays it on a terrible tinny phone with no bass right in front of me. i think it'd be very hip-hop if you shipped every album with a decent stereo to ensure it's heard properly |
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i feel there really is something to a physical circuit; a classic [EpicMegaTangent ~ "i am certain the brain incorporates at least some form of physical modelling" a plate reverb is an example of which..] then it's onto some stucco of magnetic substrate and [yes, right, i'm ignorant of the physics of tape beyond this] and the same value i feel those physical circuits bring could absolutely be transferred to this. is it lame like picking a different pixel blend algorithm? i'm ignorant of the physics of tape really that, however, yes, if we grant that tape captures something, and you keep it tape, limit xeroxing, then to physical record grooves, then you've kept when i appreciate about physical circuits over laptops [they're wonderful too tho] into a 3D physical object that can sit on someone's shelf. i suppose there would obviously have to be something of enough detail to make the test worth it. then you'd also ideally want to A/B, have a vinyl with all the normal computer stuff on a slow boat so it's ready about the time you finish the phil spector signal chain insanity and you can listen to both |
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ahaha, yes, you could have the pure analog signal chain mix on the A side and the FLACs sent around the world mix on the B side. thus making my philosophically sound but impractical idea even moreso stern warnings to only listen to the analog side using the included blaupunkt under threat of mice the tape machine is a better idea |
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vinyl, right. i have questions there too i know it is x/y, one channel wobbles, the other nods. do people mix for this for any reason? i.e. "can we nod a little wider than we can wobble without losing the needle?" -> "we can one channel be cut a bit louder" because... gravity, centrifugal force, i dunno? the boffins designing the system would fight hard to make the answer "no" i am sure, but things don't always go according to plan why does thad ask me for vinyl? i guess it does sound a bit more saturated no matter what you put on it. but it's absurd. i haven't even learned my tape machine yet |
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Cause I like physical format Over digital Anyday |
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just closing some sequencer loops that i was just sitting in the corner by the fan and stretching my back out, and oh, i have BOOTY HAVEN stuck in my hea- oh, no, wait, that's the version with the different notes i've been working on today. and i can hear it in my hed. and, oh, what if i opened with the 303 and the wavestation? that sounds good when i try it (in my head, stretching my back) and then i'm listening to it (in my hed) and yeah, actually, i should try moving the 303 up an octave so it's more like in sharks and that was thad's canoe (good in my hed) and you perhaps listened to it and i pulled it as meh and a bonus side because -- part of description you cannot read: as you can hear: yes, actually, this works out great. but then i've blown my whole melodic wad upfront and by the end of the track i'm just doing cheeky binary patterns faking you out about when the wavestation is finally done singing and showing off my simon pattern memory because i've nothing interesting left to deploy at that stage. and once belb said "you always have proper ending to your tracks" and i was pleased because i can't recall anyone ever actually noticing before |
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Cause I like physical format Over digital Anyday i don't have the cash to get stuff pressed up. i don't have the cash for anything now, really, and it's actually pretty dicey. but theoretically it'll smooth out and what are you asking me for, really, and why? is it about looking at some physical thing as you listen? is it about something you can have on the shelf like people who collect sneakers? on the other end, i am saying: ^^ financial situation, and: a CD is the same as the FLAC files; a vinyl pressed from FLAC would be industry standard, but then would you even follow through and buy it yourself. and then international shipping. do record labels still exist? i grumblingly accept this thing business sorts call "creating value." what value does my music create for someone? not much, sadly. and it's not because it's not good, it's because music isn't valued by society in a financial sense. taylor swift gets everyone's spotify money; why would i want to pad her bank account with my work? so then i said: stuff it, i think i can pull through on my own, i'm not expecting to sell a lot of records, but can someone send me a 16 track? because that would just kill it with what i do what i really want is, i dunno, almost like a salary job except just send us an album or two a month. but creating value and where's the money come, to send me, for that? not really sure. i could do nice ad jingles actually but a tape machine would be nice and, how much would it be worth to you if i did a one-off thad edition physical copy? like, it would be a burned CD-R, but i'd make the packaging and stuff myself. if someone else wanted one too i'd do something slightly different from the thad edition for them etc. is that worth $50? $100? [...plus shipping, cash upfront or escrow] |
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i can think of things, i suppose: a custom 3D printed canoe that's a USB stick and that's the album. but that's hundreds of hours of work and i won't see a return because i don't think people in bushwick would dig my shit. |
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i actually am not happy with the album cover of haptique, actually. i wanted it to basically be like the joy division album cover people have on black t-shirts, except the waveform is a canoe but AI spat that image out with sailboats and canoes and it followed the overall form of the joy division album cover i requested, and so, actually, that's quite good and quite good is a dangerous thing. it's actually annoying me a bunch because i can see it in my hed with crystal clarity, but... i kick myself off when i'm looking for equations to describe a canoe so i can feed them into a 3D graphing calc i'll do that later. |
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oh, hmm. interesting. when i said "i can see it clearly in my head" it's not, like, ulillillia pixels, but it is... i'm actually seeing the lines as . . . instead of solid lines. that i'm seeing the canoe from an isometric perspective; diagonal like in simcity 2k and i looked up the joy division... it's called ^H^H temporary pleasures and now that i think on it, i totally did remember it was all horizontal and not diagonal isometric, and dots instead of lines and when i say "i can see it clearly in my head" it's more like "i was so certain of the exact image i wanted that i just assumed the joy division album cover was like the image i wanted because it was not relevant to the image i wanted to give a shit about whether joy division went linear or isometric" isometric. and dots. that i tried getting an AI to do it first, and, no, dammit, this needs to be deliberately made. i don't have the skill to freehand it, not without driving myself mental for a week and a half. so a 3D graphing calculator, and dredging up math equations to model canoes. unless anyone can suggest a shorter path? if you suggest using some random mesh off the internet i will fucking stab u |
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ok. i see. it works if you use linear lines [for the signal bands?] like the joy division dying star pulsar, but you can still make the resulting canoe appear isometric, with the front of it pointing bottom left. flatline with the canoe being the only signal. and then it's dots and... shit, i want it to look like a vector field now. in 3D. i'm so fucked |
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my idea of a perfect life, actually, would be to blindly hurl myself into solving the shit out of this album cover issue -- impulsively, with no thought of disappearing for ~1 week and only having "well that's how long it took to get the canoe right" as my only excuse for myself afterwards. collapse into a sobbing heap two or three times because my eyes hurt and i don't understand this math and it's 3am and what am i doing? oh, right. these meltdowns happen but if i keep going i will fucking get my album cover instead, i have to pick my battles. i'm going to stick a pin in this one, as they say on the work chat apps -- i think it's a better use of my time to just record more music instead. an album, or an album cover... obvious decision, i guess. but dammit, we could have both |
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fun !! match the 3D vector field to the nevenen michael bay dub explosion need a hint? of thad's canoe |
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whoops. fun it's like an activity placemat at friendly's, yes? |
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i know i say a lot of shit. so, nevermind, just and maybe i'll kick myself off for a bit again since no one listens anyways |
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why does thad want a physical format? this was a real question, with some suggested common replies: "i like something to look at while i listen to it" or "i collect it like shoes" which i made sound a little shallow, but i didn't mean it; we all have our things. would you suspect i own, like, eight freestyle surf watches? i didn't see it happening either ...and just interested in your reasons |
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other notes -- n. no don't worry i'm not going to bang out and say "here is the album you ordered that will be $50" i'm just asking m. i now realize it is not simply x/y for channels but some clever vector thing so stereo and mono collapse kindly |
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