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Elon Musk vs Jeff Bezos
 

offline RussellDust on 2023-03-31 16:55 [#02626355]
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Who’s the creepiest?
Who’s the one we need to worry most about?
Who would have the evilest way of sacking someone or
bankrupting a small family company?
What is your favourite colour?
Do you like chillies, in Ohio?


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-03-31 17:15 [#02626356]
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My favorite colour is green.
I didn’t eat chilies the one time I went to Ohio.



 

offline Mr_mathers from The Cave (France) on 2023-03-31 19:25 [#02626357]
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Jeff Bezos is scarier than Elon Musk but Mark Zuckerberg is
more horrifying than both of them


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-03-31 21:56 [#02626360]
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only billionaire i really like is Gabe Newell who runs Valve
(makers of Steam). mainly cuz he hasn't taken the company
public and has a pretty laissez faire attitude

elon's a bitch but I most definitely like twitter more under
him than parag agrawal and vijaya gadde.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-03-31 21:57 [#02626361]
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have never been to ohio i'm sure it's cool.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-03-31 21:58 [#02626362]
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amazon already had free shipping 15 years ago, which is the
only feature I ever cared for.

all the changes since than have been for the shareholders.

all the shows that come to prime have been infested with
identity politics. all the games from amazon studios have
had sketchy monetization. Bezos is wack


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-04-06 21:32 [#02626468]
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elon musk playground mecha suit milking machine


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-07 20:29 [#02626507]
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musk. by far. for every question


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-07 20:36 [#02626508]
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on bezos, i'll just post my earlier post, post-post. you are
reading thist post post-post

>=4 times now, i've seen people in completely
unrelated bubbles spontaneously refer to bezos as a
"soul-less robot." but i've also read about "puppy-like
energy" and how he would run up and down the stairwell, fast
as he could, and never take the elevator, and

sorry, that's actually sort of like me. stuck in meetings
all day? run up seven floors and feel better; amped when you
get to the next one. have little patience for the weird
looks. if they're too dumb to get it, fuck 'em -- but i
can't fire people

so it's this sort of engineering enthusiasm, almost, like,
optimize my life. down to: fuck elevators; stairs are
religion. the problem is -- he can fire people. and that not
how everyone do. scale that up to a company that is about to
launch thousands of satellites this year to build their own
personal global comms network


LAZY_TITLE

...that bezos is sort of what we used to fear from google:
turning reality into this obnoxious technocracy where you're
penalized for spending 0.2 minutes too long on the toilet.
it's cute and makes amazon money selling books, then selling
computer parts, but then they lost the plot and they're just
trying to optimize their optimization of optimization and...
work their magic on america's health care system, and... the
global comms network? yeah mentioned that

elon musk, however, has hundreds of satellites, spaceships,
flamethrowers, and the maturity of a 14yo hormonal boy. i'm
not sure how to calculate the point at which he is a de
facto nuclear power

if he runs mars it'll be worse than kanye's school. it will
be a slave camp


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-07 20:42 [#02626509]
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you can see bezos timing himself on the toilet with a
stopwatch -- that, no, that won't do at all; we can do
better. because if you multiply the time savings over a
year...

...then amazon jobs are supposed to be a path out of the
gutter, actually. i'm not sure if it's still true, but you
can work your way up from delivery to... service, then
eventually coding, at which point you actually have
something going. their delivery pay rates aren't terrible
either -- again, not sure if that's still true

so, if it makes any sense -- if you put bezos himself in an
amazon truck he'd work himself up through the ranks right
fast, because he'll be timing himself on the toilet with a
stop watch. ...and you guys want to move up in the world,
right? well this is how you do it? what's the problem?

...problem is, that's not how everyone do


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-07 20:45 [#02626510]
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sort of like james cameron, really. asks the actors to do
brutal things without a thought simply because he, himself,
would do them without a thought. the legend goes someone
made t-shirts saying, "you don't scare me, i work for james
cameron" and i figure "your timetable isn't hard, i worked
for amazon"


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-07 22:06 [#02626512]
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it's also worth noting that bezos != amazon now

he's still on the board. i'm sure he has input. but he's off
doing his charity thing and arguably not responsible for the
direction of amazon anymore

that is the baliwick of one "Andy Jassy"

[tldr ~ free business consulting ~ jassy seems... very much
a man of the times. jassy after bezos is like tim cook after
steve jobs. or sundar pichai after larry 'n' sergey. and,
hell... even ballmer was better than nadella. i could go on

bezos sharply jumped ship while the grocery wing of amazon's
empire still showed some arguable promise; got out while the
numbers were good.

jassy's off trying to grow the portfolio when people are
starting to dump amazon because the search results are 95%
spam/scam. sort of like how jony ive got out before the full
blandness of cook's vision manifested]


 

offline Mr_mathers from The Cave (France) on 2023-04-08 19:53 [#02626527]
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nobody read all that btw


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-04-08 20:12 [#02626529]
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nobody read all that btw


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-08 21:44 [#02626537]
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I read it all, but mainly because I've been trying to figure
out specifically why epic has such a hard on for billionaire
posts

and imagining what these posts cost him in time vs. time he
can be spending elsewhere

but his foot is broken and he can't do as much, so instead
of a F-tier waste of time, it's only C-tier today


 

offline Mr_mathers from The Cave (France) on 2023-04-08 22:00 [#02626539]
Points: 142 Status: Lurker | Followup to Wolfslice: #02626537



ok you're the exception sry.
nobody read all that btw (except wolfslice)*


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-08 23:56 [#02626545]
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I read it all, but mainly because I've been trying to
figure out specifically why epic has such a hard on for
billionaire posts


billionaires; whatever. tech billionaires, and we are
very thoroughly in my wheelhouse. my first proper job was
for a first-gen dot com; the thing where you show up one day
and the doors are literally just mysteriously locked. i
watched amazon survive this. i used ebay before it all blew
up -- my ebay account is old enough to vote. i saw why
amazon survived while pets.com went down in flames. with the
chatbots, they're fucked, this is going to be worse than
napster; mp3.com -- they built their bots by scraping the
internet and you're using everyone else's shit and
claiming (C) large corp and oh my god, i've seen this
before, but not since the early 00's

i know a few tech millionaires i can just call up on the
phone. 1-2 i was arguably instrumental in helping them
become millionaires. if i had some grand idea, i actually
probably could get funding, but nothing's felt like... i
want to blow my one chance with this guy or that guy on this
idea

i talk out of my behind all over -- psychology, music, etc
-- but i know what i'm talking about here; stfu


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-09 01:14 [#02626555]
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do rather wish i had the machinery and the bankroll to short
stocks. the classic route is to spread your money out and
carefully pick a few winners, but after 20 years... it's
much easier to be all... "mmm, yep, that one's going down in
flames because ____"

but i'm wrong sometimes. if you'd told me megaupload would
still be about and useful in 2023, back in 2012, i'd have
laughed you off the block


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-09 01:20 [#02626557]
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No need for the stfu,

I will accept you as a resident expert on *tech
billionaires.

You will still be dead in 50 years, and what elon musk's car
drive home at night

doesn't mean shit to your life epic, sorry to say. I'm
wasting my life playing video games I guess

but at least it's not tidbits of thought about tech
billionaires


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-09 01:36 [#02626558]
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i try to picture us as roomates.

I'm pretty neat, and considerate of making too much noise,
wouldn't eat your food.

one night you come home late and I've got a buddy over.

"yo epic, wanna play smash wit us?"

"sorry. I have to go to my room to listen to the NPR
podcast."

I'd pass the friend a smile at your expensive, then smash
him in the dick (but still lose cuz I actually suck at
smash)


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-09 01:38 [#02626559]
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50 years? that's a bit harsh. or... truth is, i suspect how
long i'll live will become a function of my net worth, or
lack thereof. medical stuff very expensive, if you're rich
you get better care, soon generically engineered life
extension etc. and another 50 years would not even see me to
90. that, no, i've fucked around a bit, but aside from
broken foot, i'm an exercise addicted and a compulsive
strategist. the only way i'll be dead in 50 years is if i
can't afford what it costs to live

or i could get hit by a luxury SUV one day. the classic turn
of phrase is "a bus" but people that drive the bus typically
aren't entitled psychos.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-09 01:40 [#02626560]
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I'll up it to 70 years. I think you'll outlive elon
regardless, so fuck him anyway.

Also I should have said "Super Smash Brothers," my last post
just made it sound like I was fuckin the other dude in the
butt


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-09 01:46 [#02626561]
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on shorting: there's still a long game in shorting amazon,
but that could be 1-2 years. the chatbots; you can't
disentangle that from the rest of microsoft's stock price,
so no help there

hmm, what's a better one

nvidia ~ egotistical prick of a CPU got up on the mic and
said "moore's law is over, prices will just keep going up"
right as the demand for mining GPUs is crashing; pandemic
over and no one wants a new PC anymore, they don't even want
the new one they just bought 'cos they're outside now ~
they're next after samsung's profit collapse. along with
other hardware companies that aren't as flagrantly obvs ~
even if i'm wrong about the overall market intel and amd are
stepping in to fill the void of nvidia's piggish pricing and
that will still hammer their bottom line soon enough



 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-09 01:49 [#02626562]
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gfx cards will last for awhile tho. I have an RTX 2060 (now
only worth about $250-$300), but it should last for 3-5 more
years before gaming feels sluggish. Most worried about the
V-Ram on the vidja card.



 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-09 01:57 [#02626563]
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[then obviously once AI gets sued into the ground for the
beyond-napster level IP theft it is -- sorry, admit it --
nvidia's going to sell a lot less of those A100's as well]


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-09 01:57 [#02626564]
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nvidia currently like "yeah our low-end card will set you
back $1k"


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-09 01:59 [#02626565]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-04-09 02:00 [#02626566]
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they're ripping you off for sure

but all I can really say is that I feel PC parts (all of
them), are kinda built to last. Last few top end cards I've
got have lasted 6-7 years and still going in some other PC
as a hand-me down.

My comp is on 24/7, lot of gaming and other stuff and have
very few failures.

Comparing that to my THIRD Vornado brand desk fan that has
started to squeal after a year cuz the bearings are wearing
out.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-09 07:53 [#02626578]
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hey, did zilty get the memo on AI generated video of will
smith eating spaghetti?

LAZY_TITLE

ars can be a bit of a nob at times, but they have it right,
here: this AI thing is going to implode somehow, but this is
great, let's just enjoy it for a moment

then they get into "you can see how the getty images
watermark is kind of ghosted into the videos" and this is
because -- to train an AI, you need training data. getty
images has a massive library of _tagged_ images, meaning
they've spent countless hours sitting there and adding
keywords to all their images. and shit like this is how an
AI knows what images to put to your text prompt

but getty did not give permission for this shit. they're
actively suing now, along with many other parties. i simply
mention them because they have a fucking obvious case.

that, really, this is tough to sue over. but lawyers are a
clever lot, and they'll figure it eventually. once they have
a template, this is going down like... pick your colorful
analogy


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-09 07:54 [#02626579]
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or, no, it's shutterstock watermark
getty is the one suing 'em though
same difference.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-04-09 08:57 [#02626581]
Points: 24431 Status: Lurker



LAZY_TITLE


 


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