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offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2021-09-06 21:56 [#02611586]
Points: 4691 Status: Regular



Heh, I remember Germany being pretty liberal when it came to
sex-- when I was a kid just regular German magazines
(non-pornographic) usually had a nude woman or two. I
thought that was the shit when I visited Germany before age
13, a great cultural feature ;p Basically, I still think
that way.

I disagree that policing what children can see should be
left to the state. It should be up to the parents, that's my
view. I'd like to limit the states power in all such
matters. With specific regard to violence, it's been studied
time and time again and there is no correlation between
viewing violence and acting out violence in a healthy mind.
Psychology was my college major, and I was obviously
interested in the subject so I've studied it a bit. There's
a link between violence and very short term aggression in
boys, but it's more an immediate primer than a long term
desensitization.

It doesn't matter to me if it's necessary to show it or not.
Creators should be able to create what art they feel like
creating, even if it's some dumb high testosterone bullshit.
They should be able to do this without authoritarian
impediment. There's nothing you could really say to get me
to back down on that, as it's been core to my beliefs all my
life and surely is reflected in my 20 years of post history
here.

Anecdotally, for myself- I like all kinds of games,
including violent ones. Right now I'm jamming out the steam
release of Cookie Clicker and my favorite game of all time
is Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge, an adventure game
from the early 90s. I don't have any taste for real world
violence. I don't own any firearms, and I turn away from
gory scenes in horror movies if they seem too realistic and
ask my girlfriend to tell me when they're over. I'd rather
be punched in the fucking face than watch a video of someone
being actually killed. That shit stays with me in a way a
video game or movie never could.

So yeah, I simply disagree that any art should be censored,
pretty much for any reason. By the st


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2021-09-06 21:57 [#02611587]
Points: 4691 Status: Regular



Heh, I remember Germany being pretty liberal when it came to
sex-- when I was a kid just regular German magazines
(non-pornographic) usually had a nude woman or two. I
thought that was the shit when I visited Germany before age
13, a great cultural feature ;p Basically, I still think
that way.

I disagree that policing what children can see should be
left to the state. It should be up to the parents, that's my
view. I'd like to limit the states power in all such
matters. With specific regard to violence, it's been studied
time and time again and there is no correlation between
viewing violence and acting out violence in a healthy mind.
Psychology was my college major, and I was obviously
interested in the subject so I've studied it a bit. There's
a link between violence and very short term aggression in
boys, but it's more an immediate primer than a long term
desensitization.

It doesn't matter to me if it's necessary to show it or not.
Creators should be able to create what art they feel like
creating, even if it's some dumb high testosterone bullshit.
They should be able to do this without authoritarian
impediment. There's nothing you could really say to get me
to back down on that, as it's been core to my beliefs all my
life and surely is reflected in my 20 years of post history
here.

Anecdotally, for myself- I like all kinds of games,
including violent ones. Right now I'm jamming out the steam
release of Cookie Clicker and my favorite game of all time
is Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge, an adventure game
from the early 90s. I don't have any taste for real world
violence. I don't own any firearms, and I turn away from
gory scenes in horror movies if they seem too realistic and
ask my girlfriend to tell me when they're over. I'd rather
be punched in the fucking face than watch a video of someone
being actually killed. That shit stays with me in a way a
video game or movie never could.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2021-09-06 21:58 [#02611588]
Points: 4691 Status: Regular



meh i forgot how xltronic works ;p aight well much love
ijonspeches I gotta run to work myself.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2021-09-07 00:42 [#02611590]
Points: 4691 Status: Regular



I have one more thing to say about the linkage between art
and government. Especially since I said "marxist cunts,"
which triggered Marlowe and a couple others probably. One of
the reasons I strongly dislike Marxism- or what it ALWAYS
amounts in actual practice- is because it doesn't create a
viable infrastructure for creativity.

Aside from maybe couple of state sanctioned, inoffensive
neo-classical pieces in East Germany, and a few bits of
interesting abstract expressionist stuff coming out of
mainland China, there's jack shit of interest. And I have
*zero* doubt there's some talented motherfuckers making
interesting things, they just don't have an outlet to
deliver that to the populace because powers that be
determine it's of no worth to the commune. Fuck em.

The best example of utopian Marxism, for me, is Star Trek (a
product of capitalism, of course). It shows how well it
works when there are unlimited "energy crystals," matter
replication, faster than light drive, and group of humans
that have "moved beyond petty greed and grievances." I'd
love to live in that society. But none of that is ever going
to happen, not for human beings on this planet anyway.

In the meantime if you want good art, you always turn to the
most free developed societies that exist, because that's
where it's coming from.



 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2021-09-07 18:02 [#02611601]
Points: 3420 Status: Regular



that reminds me, I miss AMPI MAX

where is my cuddle bunny

where is my "little spoon"


 

offline mermaidman on 2021-09-07 19:18 [#02611603]
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ooohhhh!


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-08 22:52 [#02611635]
Points: 6148 Status: Addict



just go on reddit and see how people group every single
'vaccine' related protest in with 'nutters' - they've have a
job done on their heads.
there is no point talking to them about it... they think
what they think.
Actually i would like to dis those cunts for second because
they are the absolutely lowest grade lickspittle jobsworths
you would NOT want to come across on earth.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-08 22:59 [#02611638]
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I don't like the ones equating not wanting vaccine passports
as being against vaccines, its a totally different argument


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-08 22:59 [#02611639]
Points: 30707 Status: Regular



In america they are telling cops to ask for your social
media details now when they stop you


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-08 23:03 [#02611642]
Points: 30707 Status: Regular



Reddit is another echo chamber like facebook, they don't do
nuance, either your 100% in on the pervasive opinion or
you're a troll to them


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-08 23:08 [#02611644]
Points: 30707 Status: Regular



Although I think everyone should be vaccinated I'm not for
Vaccine mandates amongst Adults, everyone should have
freedom to do what they want to their own body. Its too much
of a personal imposition. If you don't have choice over your
own body what do you, but I think people who are too
paranoid about the vaccine are taking a massive health
risk.

Read how people die with Covid sounds fucking hellish


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-08 23:11 [#02611645]
Points: 30707 Status: Regular



7 stages of Covid

They stick a Tube up your arse as well as down your throat


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-09-09 08:20 [#02611676]
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i thought about the art (or whatever kind of) censorship for
a few days again and i agree that it should not happen. i
dont know if there can be (philosophically arguing)
exceptions to the rule, but the main point for me is that no
topic ought to be taboo. whatever people create is obviously
something that we as a community or individuals on this
planet havent finished dealing with yet. suppressing those
topics is not right and in practice may backfire.



 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-09-09 08:22 [#02611677]
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i dont know what to say to this madness


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-09 14:26 [#02611680]
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paper please!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-09 14:27 [#02611681]
Points: 30707 Status: Regular



also


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2021-09-09 14:50 [#02611682]
Points: 4691 Status: Regular



Papers, Please

thoroughly enjoyed my playthrough of that on steam when it
came out


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-09 15:06 [#02611683]
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ive seen that game around, never played it!


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-09-09 15:42 [#02611685]
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"The copies of the cards obtained by the Brennan Center also
revealed that police are instructed to ask civilians for
their social security numbers and are advised to tell
interviewees that “it must be provided” under federal
law."

on what basis?!?!

i really wonder who brought this up and why.
it appears like pure harrassment to me.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-09 15:48 [#02611686]
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aren't they opening themselves up to lots of lawsuits?


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-09-09 15:51 [#02611687]
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i dont know if they could actually pull it off by any law.
they are definitely furthering the hate towards their
institution
and i dont understand why.



 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-09-09 15:56 [#02611688]
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sometimes this world just feel like it is run into the
ground deliberately. people just cannot be so stupid as to
constantly fuck up and piss people off.

i mean they have all the police brutality riots and debates
right now, does this make it any better?


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-09-09 15:59 [#02611689]
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the bandito death squad deputies may be a symptom of this
split society. makes me think about the corruption and
organized crime though too.

if they just didnt ban alcohol in the 1920s...


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-09 16:13 [#02611690]
Points: 30707 Status: Regular | Followup to ijonspeches: #02611689



LAZY_TITLE

check the tattoos they get


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-09 16:15 [#02611691]
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its particularly worrisome in America, the line between what
you would categorise as a police man and some sort of
paramilitary death squad seems very blurred, they get all
this surplus military equipment from failed wars


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-09 16:16 [#02611692]
Points: 30707 Status: Regular



LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-09 18:08 [#02611694]
Points: 30707 Status: Regular



haha the peacemaker


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-09-09 19:03 [#02611695]
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the first thing i thought, when i saw the tanks was,
war on drugs, late 80s early 90s.

the escalation of this violent spiral is just limitless,
as is the profit being made by it

how much exactly of the u.s. economy is based on milititary,
crime defense and prisons?

and how much would that be in $ per citizen a month?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-09 19:19 [#02611696]
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As you said it feels like they don't want to sort crime out,
they want to escalate and escalate


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-09-09 19:37 [#02611697]
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yes it really feels like it and i believe its part of the
probelm, but also it fits the mentality or automatism of
authority seeming incapable of stepping down under pressure
and looking for other ways to solve the problem.

arte showed a very insightful documentary on police
brutality in germany and france. it showed the views of
victims and offenders from both sides. a big topic of course
was how colleagues made sure they cover each other if one
stepped over the line and how rare it is that one speaks out
when someone fucked up and why that is. also how the police
is a military structure that on order is supposed to beat
down demonstrations. france is definitely closer to the
situation in the u.s.. police officers have the highest
suicide rate of all professions in there being paid badly,
hardly seeing their families and are often confronted with
bad policy and decision making. many times they cant live
with what they carried out. i never hear this from the u.s.
but im sure there are similarities and ex officers spoke
up.



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-09-09 20:14 [#02611698]
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Yeah they have this code of complicity, like Omerta mafia
code of silence. Its weird how much they parallel the
criminals they pursue.

LAZY_TITLE

this guy spoke out and got threatened


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2021-09-11 06:52 [#02611743]
Points: 4691 Status: Regular



stasi?


 


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