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offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-25 08:45 [#02610148]
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it's time to run a software firmware update on your
hardware.


 

offline glaase from Harrisburg (United States) on 2021-07-25 14:24 [#02610149]
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You have to perform a sysex bulk dump from the SD card.
Move the SD card to the root directory of the compaq flash
card.


 

offline glaase from Harrisburg (United States) on 2021-07-25 14:25 [#02610150]
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There, now we’re back


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2021-07-25 14:27 [#02610151]
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Right account now? We might have bricked it.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-25 14:48 [#02610153]
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my wavestation ex can't acquire an ip address


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-25 14:49 [#02610154]
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i can't find anything in the manual about its wifi setup


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2021-07-25 14:55 [#02610156]
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Just get AUM and Drambo on iOS and leave all that behind


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2021-07-25 14:57 [#02610157]
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And Sugar Bytes Drum Computer. Then export your slices onto
your sampler and just make them think you’re dawless


 

offline mermaidman on 2021-07-25 15:11 [#02610158]
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bunch of drambois in here


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-25 19:40 [#02610162]
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im afraid my reality does not support iOS


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-25 19:47 [#02610163]
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i'm told the wavestation A/D originated when some engineer
at sequential got annoyed no one was getting, like, it'll be
like, you know? oh goddamn it

so he spies an old prototype prophet 2000 or something on
the shelf, gathering dust... hmm, that... this... and he
promptly takes a hacksaw to the prophet 2000 prototype, just
need the A2D section fuck the rest

and before i knew any of this i was looking at the thing,
and thinking "i wonder if there's any way to wire an audio
input into... nah, you'd have to redesign it"

then later, just kinda like... ... well, shit, i really
thought that was a stupid idea, but i guess it was better
than i realized.

anyways, my question is: what's the best hacksaw?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-25 20:08 [#02610164]
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Then export your slices onto your sampler and just make
them think you’re dawless


to what end? does it sell records? t-shirts? does it keep
people up at night, wondering how you're dawless? and you
simply get a kick out of it?

i think it's really past the expiration date for that kind
of thot anyways. the arturia keygigger (aka keystep pro),
you can't even change some settings without plugging it into
the computer. so it's dependent on the computer, a little,
but it's not really a computer itself. inside, i figure, is
the world's most stressed-out arduino hobby kit. they've
been iterating this platform for like ten years and it's
showing its age. sixteen projects? just sixteen? but that's
all they can get out of 2mb flash memory or some shit

but, i digress. often

i don't sequence on the computer (for now, my mood may shift
eventually) but i sequence on a demented computer that is
dependent on the computer and then i record everything to
the computer but the computer is just a stereo tape deck but
then i use the computer to normalize, eq, x-comp

i've made things difficult enough for myself with my current
setup that i could certainly claim dawless. just a stereo
recording, from hardware, then some light mastering. but the
computer has bled into the works; stains worse than tomato
sauce. you'll never get it out. we all have at least some
computer now

so i don't have Apple Universe Membership. but would not
frown on anyone tossing an iPad next to an sh101 and some
guitar pedals. i think now it's more about clever ways of
combining what's available. new clever hybrids of old and
new


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2021-07-26 01:16 [#02610171]
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“to what end? does it sell records? t-shirts? does it keep

people up at night, wondering how you're dawless? and you
simply get a kick out of it?”

No it’s more that software is unreliable (as is midi) but
a sampler like an Octatrack is more stable. There’s no
effect that didn’t load right, or an app that crashed. It
doesn’t matter if you have tracks on different machines
with different routings. You can write or sequence on
whatever you want without caring about how would I do this
live or on a stream, just collect the samples.

You can, also however post your jam in all your groups, even
the dawless one without the comments devolving into, well
what is a DAW?

I think there’s a market yet for live streaming gear and
jams on YouTube and Twitch. Like RM1X jams or Electribes.
The Nick Batt Sonicstate crowd where it’s half jam, half
gear demo and then they monetize it with advertising or
whatever. People wanting to buy a Deluge or something.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-26 01:45 [#02610172]
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i think if you blended a breathy belch with an 808 cowbell
it would sound p. swank.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-26 01:56 [#02610173]
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i like the crappiness of midi. i used to have a yamaha dx200
-- wonderful fing, dat -- and if there was a lot of stuff
going thru the midi thru, it would get kind of constipated,
and lag out. got a feeling for how to just kind of push it
sliiightly too far after a while. then, great, the prophet
vs arp remembers like 140 notes or something, let's just
have it in what would be a freeze/paralyze instant
feedback loop but is instead the dx200 becoming self-aware
and deciding that it is funky. then, of course, using the
bent casio with that one shit power brick, so whenever the
sub hit a particularly bassy note, the casio feels
lightheaded and splats around delightfully, chasing the
dx200

i have a digitakt. it's wonderful. just, the little things
-- proper mechanical switches; no membrane key bullshit.
enough on-board storage to just work and not worry. but,
really, even the manual is freaking insane. it is a whole
24-dimensional universe of secret button combo moves. that,
i dunno, i have a feeling elektron doesn't push firmware
updates anywhere near as often as arturia, because if the
digitakt's manual is that tite i can only imagine how the
firmware code is.

so, that is kind of the hardware thing: it used to be, if
you shipped a nintendo cartridge with a bug, you had to
recall them destroy them, make new ones. so you got shit
fucking right the first time! then always-on internet
console and suddenly games all ship with bugs because ehhh
shit we'll just patch it later whatever

and even in a world of hardware that is just software on
DSPs with some nice converters and knobs and an OLED, i do
find "hardware" less likely to have bugs. but it used to
never have bugs


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-26 02:08 [#02610174]
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PARANOIDS ~ technical demonstration of ^^

* dx200 and prophet vs make a fractal baby
* casio carefully patched to react to the voltage drop loud
bass causes
* thinking of wind chimes in the dark, at night
* dub


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-26 02:12 [#02610175]
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really i hadn't thot about how i could do this with
software. maybe you could. stuff like, what happens when you
bounce a bunch of dubfx around an analog board, i guess,
maybe, somehow, it could feel the same. i've never gotten
the same feel out of a "DAW" however. but then we get to
"the dx200 reliably shits out in this aesthetically pleasing
way" and a power brick that's labelled "BROKEN / SPECIAL"
and does arturia have a plugin for that?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-26 02:15 [#02610176]
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but if you want to write on the laptop instead of having an
attic full of [often charmingly] temperamental treasures,
again, i will not frown on you. i believe in what gets the
job done, what fits into your life, and all that. the job
here is for me to enjoy myself making music and i find the
physical machines much more charismatic and visceral. if you
asked me to take this on tour i'd have a solid laugh before
saying: uhhhh, noooooo


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2021-07-26 15:34 [#02610189]
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So a few years ago I lost the gear I had in a fire, a
Waldorf q, asr-x pro, RY-30, and a bunch of volcas. I
replaced them with an RM1X, Octatrack and got a tx81z on the
cheap. RM1X is good enough to do a set with, no problem,
but you’re going to sound like Underworld circa 96. If
you want to sound like Download circa 95 with real drums and
textures, movie samples, and have those atmospheres change
quickly, like verse to chorus then you need to incorporate a
sampler, or a computer but I’m like you I don’t want to
just stare at a laptop.

But let me tell you about AUM and how amazing it is. Audio
Units Mixer, it’s not really a DAW like Cubase or Ableton,
it’s a mixer that syncs your real gear with apps and
let’s you route them in interesting ways. The interface
looks more like a platform for DJing with each app or
hardware channel running on a deck almost. Then you can
record the channel and bring back in the audio with your
real time performance on a new channel and go again.
There’s little sequencers and modules you can insert to do
anything from piano rolls to generative phrasing, totally
open platform.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-27 05:49 [#02610209]
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But let me tell you about fucking plugins. That i have,
literally, hundreds of tracks, years of work, that will
never work outside of an airgapped windows XP box. That
migrating everything out of it; i have to acknowledge it may
never get there. Not even half of it. That I could probably
finish some of the unfinished stuff now; I know more than I
did then and I know why I got stuck there and I know how to
get past it now. But I open up the project and shit where's
the installer for waves native bundle from 2002?!

Discord, one of the better convos -- what stems, barbie? -- arose
out of one of our here members being hired to extract the
stems for, amongst other things, aqua's barbie girl. and
it's some producer guy and it's all a mirror G4 mac and some
fucking lacie drives, serious early 00's tip. he is asked:
can't you just set this all up on a newer mac? put in the
serials again?

and he replies: serials? what serials

and this is someone who was an actual quote-unquote
professional, and, i presume, actually paid for all that
shit. from everything everyone's told me, i'm actually
super-lucky to have pirated all the shit in terms of
longevity, because the genuine authentication mechanisms for
a lot of stuff from back then don't even work no more. does
a cubase sx 3.1.1 hardware key work in win10? glad i don't
have to care

never going that route again, thanks.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-27 06:03 [#02610210]
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that i haven't actually allowed enough in for this to happen
to me, but i have a strong hunch: has arturia, or whatever,
ever pushed an update and actively broken something you're
working on? like, it was fine last nite, now my shit is
fucked? and maybe i'm just being neurotic but if i gave in
to the "always-on" plugin lifestyle i figure that would
inevitably be my day someday


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-27 06:05 [#02610211]
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for some reason i also feel compelled to mention that every
gmail redesign is more shit than the last and one has to
take it up the ass because what alternative is there?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-27 06:13 [#02610212]
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that, i suppose, the alternative i've opted for is: screw
it, this software shit is a fucking illusion. it is no more
constant than the "hardware" i have. since it's all doomed
anyways, let's just have fun and record to stereo, back up
the patches made and arturia keygigger projects

also: i fucking hate "apps"


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-31 00:20 [#02610297]
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>>> software is an illusion
now we're getting somewhere


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-31 00:22 [#02610298]
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Like, what the fuck do you think it is? Your friend?


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-31 00:26 [#02610299]
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sorrry... that's not aimed at you but all these other
fucking zombies with their "smart" phones. They are Ad
delivery systems and that is settled.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-07-31 09:04 [#02610362]
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i grew up with a mouse and keyboard. i now use a das
keyboard, i type really fast; that's how i spray nonsense
all over this board so effectively. i get onto a "smart"
fone and you fucking little runt bitch, stop trying to
autocorrect me. i do not want to capitalize that. that was
not a typo. but it never learns and i'm typing letters like
i'm using chopsticks. i've seen people get very very fast
using autocomplete but then their writing no longer has any
character. it's just compressed into the same generic
bullshit. i think this means i'm starting to get old.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2021-07-31 20:13 [#02610372]
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sure


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-08-06 07:04 [#02610452]
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hey, shut the fuck up chico


 


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