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i reckon osama is a bedroom knob-twidder. he probably has those caves full of vitage gear. hey leave him alone he just wants to make music |
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Since WW2 America has just been exerting neo-colonialism in almost every country. Financing certain groups and then when it backfires (ala osama bin laden) they just pull out and leave it all to cave in. Look at america's involvement in bolivia, its blackmailed the country into stopping cocaine production (the USA is the main buyer) and the country is in economic turnoil. Did you know that Enron donated a large amount of money quite recently to the Taliban before it was deposed so it could tap its resources? |
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ALL I'M FUCKING SAYING IS THAT IT WASN'T MISTRANSLTED! I am very skeptical, and I'm not opposed to the idea that Osama is actually a crazy who just says he did it (there are always wierd innocent people claiming they are responsible when bombs or terrorism is involved). I'm not opposed to the idea that it was acted either. Grinningcat, nothing you said means the video wouldn't have been correctly translated. |
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yeah the american gov are cunts, they fund isreal to knockout palentine, they funded osama to knockout russia and they sell arms all over the world, they sell weapons to saddam then persecute him for it etc ok jupitah maybe it wasnt mistranslated, all im saying is even if it was, wud u know about it? wud any of the western media tell u? wud american gov let the media get thier hands on the orig tapes and let them analyse it? they're all cunts im telling u. everyone is a cunt. sometimes. everybody cries blah blah blah |
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My post wasn't a reply to yours, it was a general feeling I had about the response to the video. I also don't think it was mistranslated. |
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yeah ben - the US involvement with south america is long-armed and dirty |
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hell with the media |
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im reading a book called 'hidden agendas' by John Pilger... its pretty good.... although hard to digest its all like places names numbers dollars and corruption |
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No, I wouldn't have access to the original tape, and I've already answered those other questions. It's called the interenet. |
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sorry laser |
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and id say: get something off the internet and its probably more dodgy than watching the american-cut-up-edited-for-media/public version i cant wait till his new video comes out |
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I'm not talking about getting a correctly translated video on the internet, but you would have heard that it was mistranslated by now. Word would flow, simple as that. The U.S. has sneakier methods. Osama is probably some nut who talks shit if what Marlowe said is true. |
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All I'm saying is America played with fire and got burnt |
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mistranslated?..perhaps not..misconstrued..very much so..my Arabic is not that fluent but there were a lot of abbreviations and summations going on in the translation..plus the footage was so obviously cut up and spliced together..it was not just a matter of something being out of context..but more like there was a preplanned context and the footage was re-edited around it..The words are only a minor part of communication..the rest is intonnation, gestures, body language etc..it's safe to say that 90% of the western world are totally ignorant of an Arabs body language and vocal fluctuations...what kept being referred to as an Evil Laugh as Osama supposedly described the planes crashing into the building was not a laugh at all..and when he talked about knowing about strutural damage supposedly damned him in the eyes of so many..well..the man is a civil engineer..and a terrorist and a weapons /explosives expert..... but all of that is besides the point.... Why hasnt the CIA been able to catch him yet? Maybe because they dont want to..same as they didnt want to even with ample oppertunities eliminate Saddam.. you know why?..because they are worth far more to the US alive..just as with Iraq it was an excuse to carry on a campaign of slaughter for another decade knocking them back into stone age..giving ample business and outlets for the Military/Industrial infrastructure... Osama is the next red flag and red herring which is going to pop up anywhere and everywhere the next US millitary action is devised to secure the nations capitalistic and financial interests... What I find the most hilareous out of all of this is the American media who go on endlessly about this dictatorial regime and that totalitarian state..refusing to see why some of the people would be willing to submit some of their freedoms if it meant end of constant wars and lawlessness (Taliban being torelated by Afghans for momentary no matter how brutal stability is the classic example).. and now after 9/11..just one incident as compared |
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decades of slaughter these "backward" countires have to suffer the civil liberties in the US have been knocked back to the 50's and Macarthyism..with full support of the "enlightened" American media.. |
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Yeah, the less ignorant of us know that we caused the destruction of wtc and the death of the indivuduals as much as the terrorsits themselves. Facing this fact makes me an "anti-American". |
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i am a muslim and if a hade a chance to do a good thing i hade take the life of me |
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Well, then that's sad :/ |
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marlow: get off it man, he said he did it. |
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see what's hapenning in france.... |
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see what's hapenning in france... |
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Nanotech's right... |
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holy shit the paranoia and hipocracy of america right now is just ridiculus the governments just using exagerated threats to justify.. well anything they want to, now now they will be able to get away with anything whats that? france is training terrorists? *BOOM* whats that? we need 400 billion dollars worth of new fighter jets? (and the money just happens to go to a good friend of mine?) *CH-CHING* gee, we could sure make a lot of dough if we were fighting a big, never-ending war. we just need some enemies now.. how bout an 'Axis of evil', made up of 3 countries that have nothing to do w/ each other? ya, that will do then we will just PRE-emptively defend outselves... wait a sec.. is that allowed under international law? WHO CARES! we ARE the international law! -us government |
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Yeah, they use the money they got from poor countries to bomb the fuck out of them. ironic eh? |
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he said he did it? he said he did another previous bombing which he didn't do, doofus - saying "i am guilty" doesn't make you guilty - just gives beaurocrats a big hard-on |
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Osama may have done it, the vedio may have been fabricated, Osama is definately fucked, but so are the US's destructive policies.... but the most important thing in all this is that Osama is very mis-guided with his understanding of Islam and is simply full of shit...civilians are not allowed to be killed even if ur enemy is too powefull to defeat u shouldn't resort to attacking innocents, Osama and ppl like him don't represnt Islam... |
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who said civilians aren't allowed to be killed? was there an edict from God given out that i missed? i don't recall ever receiving a book called "everything you are allowed to do and everything you aren't allowed to do by GOD" |
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its called the Koran, and do u think civilians should be killed then? |
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there's a difference between my opinion and The Truth |
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yes there is, ur opinion is the exact oppositte of the truth, if that opinion thinks civilans should be killed |
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please copy and paste where i gave an opinion which stated that i think it's ok that civilians are killed... |
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u didn't, but u complained when i said they aren't allowed to be |
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that wasn't a complaint - it was a challenge |
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enguard! |
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lol - hey b3n, maybe you can help me - i ripped some chopin CDs at my mum's yesterday. then copied them on a CDRW but although they are there (the remaining space &tc corresponds) there is no sign of them! any idea what's up? |
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I think you may not have closed the cd. if its not closed they often don't come up. since its a cdRW (and I don't use em much) it may not have that switched on |
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so they're gone? :( |
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no, MAYBE not if you go into your program and find 'close' cd or 'close & finish' and something. If its not a god proggie it may need a saved file of the files burned to it. I think nero doesn't need it |
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well i'm a different computer now - i'll see what i can do - thanx for the advice ben! and hey! download another of my songs would ya! may i suggest "anything"? |
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yep, ok I'll get it |
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what a fucked up one sided argument |
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All humans should be killed |
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Why should I be killed? |
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humans are like.. hm.. cancer to the world brrrrrr |
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this is fucking rediculous. |
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it is? heh.. why? |
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The problem with islam is that it isn't just a few of the "lunatic fringe" that want to kill people not of their faith (like the few "Christians" in northern ireland who use it as an excuse to kill people with different views), the extermination of other faiths is an intrinsic part of the muslim belief. |
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i dont hate muslims, i just think the palestinians need to get the heck out of Israel's land... its not yours, your not wanted, go and stay in your land and be happy let others live |
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hauker-just referring to the 'all humans must be killed' bollox above...aaah cant be bothered. |
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