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what is dub and jungle?

hevquip from an egren's coffe shop on 2001-06-28 22:32 [#00011303]

i've never understood exactly what defines the two music
genres. what sounds are used mainly and are there certain
rhythms and patterns used?


poe from the uk on 2001-06-29 01:03 [#00011308]

i dont know...


|REFLEX| from Western Canada on 2001-06-29 01:15 [#00011312]

Drum and bass and Jungle can be easily related to each
other, only recently have I begun to use these terms and
others, and I HATE THEM! But, I guess now I use them
sometimes. Jungle.. is a ligther form of DUB. DUB being
Drum'N'Bass style. Which is exactly what it sounds like,
say... Roni Size is DUB style mostly. Photek is DUB.. check
them out. I hate big labels for tunes, when you can throw so
many varying styles within those genres.. its so annoying,
but oh well.


rubbish john on 2001-06-29 10:15 [#00011336]

i am not particularly up to scratch on the subject of dub -
but [REFLEX] - you 'aint got a clue what you are on about.
you are mistaking dub for the abbreviation dnb -
i'm not gonna argue with you as i have pretty much made up
my mind about you and you're musical knowledge since you you
made those ill informed statements you made about the
origination of hip-hop.
....oh and well done poe.


streamer on 2001-06-29 10:28 [#00011340]

He's got a point, [REFLEX].
One more thing, Jungle is actually the more hardcore,
old-skool of the two, with frenetic beats and people
generally going mental whereas Drum n' Bass is the general
genre of which Jungle is a part.


Richard from MIR-spacestation on 2001-06-29 12:19 [#00011346]

ur all WAYYYYYY off here....
jungle is what drum n bass was first called, bout 15 years
dub is electronic reggae.


pauwl on 2001-06-29 12:50 [#00011347]

kin'ell finally someone who knows what there talking about,
u must be one of the few richard.


poe from the uk on 2001-06-29 13:22 [#00011348]

richard 'dub is electronic reggae' is a very good statement,
I agree with that.

Reflex...d00d, wtf you on?

you are also BADLY contradicting yourself...dont make me
bring up icq history......


Macaroni Duck from Toronto,ONT,Canada on 2001-06-29 16:20 [#00011376]

Ok well here it goes Electronic Regge is called Ragga dub is
a regge beats spead up the diffrance between dnb and
jungle is QUITE large Jungle uses alot of hip hop samples
and tends to be faster and keeps to a basic formula jungle
then morphs into Dark Jungle (Techstep) wich is alot more
dnb like as it uses more eletronic based samples and more
eletronic based syth cords but is still fast now dnb is alot
more freeform alot of eletronic samples and can be ALOT
slower then Jungle but tends to be alot for creative if u
want to compare get sum jungle and ragga tracks such as

Shy FX Orginal - Nuttah(ragga)
Congo Natty - Junglist Man (jungle)
Diselboy -anything by him (dark jungle)
Kohseen - Suicide dnb/jungle (rides the border sampled
heavily in the jungle comunity at the moment)
Photek - anything (dnb)


hevquip from an egren's coffe shop on 2001-06-29 16:22 [#00011377]

i went and researched those some the other day. from what i
understand, jungle is a derivative from dnb. i found one
sight on dub and it seems pretty cool the whole creation
process of making it, without the like of sequencers,
synths, and samplers, but real instruments and the use of
recording equipment, microphones, tape decks, doing homemade
effects i.e. recording your sounds in a room for echo. it
seems interesting and doesn't sound to bad either.


Macaroni Duck from Toronto,ONT,Canada on 2001-06-29 16:27 [#00011378]

dnb evolved from jungle not the other way around (not saying
jungle is better just saying thats how things happened)


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