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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-04-13 23:27 [#00172659]
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sequencing on real hardware drum machines. ive had a few and it was kinda fun manually pushing in each note. but software gets me further faster. i may have to get another drum machine again thought just for sampling purposes so i can get that hardware sequencing bug out of me.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-04-13 23:31 [#00172667]
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Alot of the time software lets you go faster up your own arse. All this processing is so boring, it's like listening to someone explain bank procedures.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-04-13 23:33 [#00172673]
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Using hardware synths and real equipment is fun, sequencing on hardware is not. My first synth from the early 90's had this 2x16 character LCD, a full blown 16 track sequencer and it was a pain in the ass to program. So is the relatively simple MC-202. I had to order a manual from Roland.
-P
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-13 23:34 [#00172674]
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Yeah man, tell me about it! I've got a Yamaha TX81Z rack FM synth which has got a tiny 2 line lcd display on it, and FM's difficult to programme at the best of times. Thank god I've got an editor on the pc, its so much easier. However, I did have to read the manual to programme in all the setting and outputs, channels etc. Most people just use it as monotimbral it scares them so much!
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-04-13 23:38 [#00172685]
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Yamaha FM is notorious :) Apparently it's Brian Eno's fave engine (the DX7).
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-04-13 23:38 [#00172688]
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Have you tried the FM7?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-13 23:41 [#00172695]
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I read in an interview with Luke Vibert that Tom Jenkinson programmed Go Plastic on one of those little QY yamaha sequencers! my god, thats mental! Is that even possible?
Then again, I reckon something like that could really bring out better work. Sitting at a screen, I have to turn off my monitor because I'm looking at the music instead of hearing it.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-13 23:44 [#00172715]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to JivverDicker: #00172688
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Apparently its very good, but I'm thinking of getting another Tx81Z, they are going so cheap.
However, in a few weeks, I'm building a new pc so I can use soft synths and am thinking about getting reaktor or absynth, and sitting down and learning that. I'm scared of getting too many, cos I'll never make any music, its all to easy!
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-04-13 23:54 [#00172757]
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I've got the Nord Micro Modular. It's a dream come true. If I had the big Nord, I wouldn't need anything else. It's basically four micromods.
The only thing to look out for is the number of MIDI-ports. The Nord needs two pairs. One for the editor and one for an external sequencer(computer). Unless you only use the built in seq-modules.
-P
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-13 23:59 [#00172768]
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I saw a nord lead 3 the other day and I'm sure it makes good noises, which is more important, but it looked a bit cheapo (apart from the price:))
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-04-14 00:00 [#00172771]
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Reaktor is amazing though, I use it for the sounds or loops rather than to compose a whole track. It really does sound amazing. I mean SOUNDS amazing. Straight out of the box it's got an EMS synthi (the suitcase tone generator) and loads of original analogue sounding things. It just sounds brilliant!
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-04-14 00:03 [#00172777]
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B3n, the NL3 has hardwired signal-path. I could never go back to that. I love adding more and more LFOs and crap and being able to route things differently. The NL3 looks very sexy though.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-14 00:05 [#00172784]
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Since I don't have a job I can't really be affording to pay the prices they ask for hardware so I think putting money into a pc is the best option. Especially as at uni I can get 'demos'
I've heard nothing but praise about reaktor. I couldn't believe how much Vaz gets into a 1.5 megs file though, its mad!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-14 00:06 [#00172789]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to Paco: #00172777
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Yeah, it was only when I looked close at the knobs.
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