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[again] trying to quit ziggurats
 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-03-11 03:34 [#02596844]
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i am officially tired of ziggurats. i don't even like them
anymore.

before 2016 or so, i'd smoke the occasional ziggurat, but it
was not a habitual thing. then my life kinda got shit, and
they're cheap, and i started smoking regularly.

i've tried to quit a few times; managed once or twice and
then got back into it. again, really, because i was broke
and, like, fuck it, what else do i have to do. i'm staying
in some shit cheap apartment with a bunch of cokeheads, a
belgian malanois, and a cat. not only is smoking cigarettes
social, but they are currency

things are a bit better now. i have a proper job. i live
alone again, thank god. i hate my commute, i hate the train,
and more, but these are all starting to feel less relevant
in terms of "why am i still smoking zigs?"

but, most directly -- as i openoined, i don't even like them
anymore. at work, it's just habit; a good excuse to get away
from my desk for a bit. tend to come up with answers w/rt to
a bit of work i'm hung up on. so i think i'll need to do
something instead; take walks

anyways, yes, i don't even like them any more. i've cut way
down without much of a problem, but it's very tough to snuff
out the last bit. particularly in the morning, after sleeps,
and the withdrawal is doing things to me like headache and
bowel dysfunction. the morning ziggurat will be a last
holdout, but perhaps it can eventually become a late-morning
zig

the weather is getting warmer. according to the terms of my
lease, i'm not supposed to smoking anything, and windows are
starting to open. been making myself go out for a drive if i
want one, to slow myself down, but, tonight, as i got in my
car, things came alive around me. right. time to quit

also coronavirus. there's that too

wish me luck xlt


 

offline wavephace from off the chain on 2020-03-11 22:33 [#02596902]
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why dont u just VAPE


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-03-17 01:12 [#02597420]
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what the heck is zigurrat


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-03-17 01:13 [#02597421]
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i don't even vape these days…


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-03-17 01:26 [#02597425]
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A ziggurat (/ˈzɪɡʊˌræt/ ZIG-uu-rat; Akkadian:
ziqqurat, D-stem of zaqāru 'to build on a raised area') is
a type of massive structure built in ancient Mesopotamia and
Iraq. It has the form of a terraced compound of successively
receding stories or levels.



 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-03-17 01:32 [#02597426]
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yes i remember that from back when i read mickey mouse


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-03-17 07:16 [#02597428]
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I suggest switching to rollies as a way to get off the zigs.
Worked for me. You don't smoke as often because u have to
roll it. After a while u don't want the cigs anymore and
you're smoking a lot less. From this point, you can try to
quit the rollies, which is easier.

that said, I still smoke rollies but a lot less.


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-03-17 19:24 [#02597477]
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chew it


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-03-18 17:24 [#02597512]
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theeeese arr aaall the zzigguratts you´lll neeeeeed.
muhauhauhua



 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-03-18 17:50 [#02597513]
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i couldn't give my ziggies up even if i wanted to, they're
too nice and it's good for making friends in places like
this. i've never met a schizophrenic who didn't smoke, it's
actually part of the diagnostic criteria to some docs. first
zig in the morning, zig with coffee, zig after food... yeah.
mind you i've cut down from when i was drinking, used to be
a 40 a day dude. ziggy zig zig. going for one now


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-03-18 18:22 [#02597515]
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i want one now but i'ma wait a while


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-03-19 06:58 [#02597536]
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made a trip into the danger zone and bought a pack, because
yolo


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-03-19 21:18 [#02597560]
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this might help
LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-04-02 05:27 [#02598590]
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u905yklgfh/. dfgjkkdfg. gjgjgj
not going to buy another pack. not going to buy another
pack. fgjklhkfjlg
nothing's open this late anyways
and name brand nicorette is actually a thousand times better
than cvs brand, alright, ok, fhjgklfg


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-04-02 06:17 [#02598594]
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this guy's videos are pretty good

lockdown

(microsagans)

([dfhjgdfgh])


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-04-04 04:35 [#02598834]
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i haven't had any in a few days and today i've felt quite
good, just had a bit of the gum

but now, suddenly, dfjgkdfgdf i want a zig. my brain is
all... maybe i have one in the drawer, under th- no, stop,
you don't. they're gone. have some more of the gum, or
nothing, shut up


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-04-04 08:32 [#02598849]
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still really want a zig


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-04-06 03:15 [#02599050]
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it is strange
i think i am essentially over the chemical addiction at this
point
but i rather want a zig for the sake of form right now


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-04-17 06:07 [#02600048]
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ssssuccccssssesssccecxcesessecessssssssssss

i haven't had a zig in over two weeks
but it's only the last few days that i haven't even been
thinking about it

triggering, the most, is watching tv/movies where people
smoke, and a general sense of the intensity of that
reducing, specifically. like, thank god, it's starting to
feel irrelevant again. like it did for most of my life,
spare the last five years. cigarettes? oh, whatever.

i could actually get very specific on what it was that
flipped the switch. that, for years, i'd occasionally smoke
a zig, and never became a zmoker. it was, essentially, a
period when i was broke, going through a lot of shit in my
life, and, as a consequence of both of these things, forced
to live with people who had a social zig culture. combined
with continuing to be broke, having to drive for uber, and
zigs are a good way to kill the tedium

writing this all, actually triggers the urge. i think i
think i'll chomp my last bit of nicorette and then fuck off
from this thread forever


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-04-17 08:01 [#02600050]
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meanwhile we're here buying contraband tobacco from the
Bangladeshis up the road.

Respect EMT. You will continue to be challenged, so stay
strong. In 2017 I quit smoking for 6 months, only to fall
off the wagon on a trip to Ukraine.



 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2020-04-17 15:35 [#02600054]
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: the longer you go
without zigs the easier it gets. When I zmoked I was afraid
that if I quit I'd have to live with the craving forever,
but it goes away. Have faith.


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-09 09:53 [#02601476]
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we've also decided to quit.

been a while now... more than a week....not sure...

it's like that feeling you get after someone dies... a
void....a deep sadness....followed by irritability at small
things, the odd meltdown.

seems silly to feel like that over a little stick of tobacco
but there u go


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2020-05-09 16:17 [#02601481]
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Oh I know, the hollow sense of loss, the looming sense that
nothing will ever be right again, and JESUS the MELTDOWNS
over NOTHING, it's the most insidious shit.

But it fades and disappears. The one week and the two week
points are difficult, then it gets easier and you'll never
wanna go back and put yourself through that agony again.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-05-09 16:42 [#02601482]
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i thought about quitting cigs and not weed too


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2020-05-09 16:45 [#02601483]
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I'm not crazy about weed but I'd take a hit off a joint
sometime again maybe. Cigs, no fucking way.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-09 17:13 [#02601485]
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it definitely has gotten more distant -- that feeling of
being triggered when someone in a movie lights a cigarette.
that feeling that made no sense, since i haven't had one in
weeks, three puffs and i'd want to hurl, i would not even
enjoy it, but still

that feeling has significantly dropped off in the last few
weeks. pretty solidly in the clear, i think.

meanwhile, weed. i bought a ton of oil cartridges from the
dispensaries before everything shut down, and was just
starting to run out. rationing myself for the last week, i
was increasingly crabby and demotivated. eventually, i
caved, and called around and got some flower again, and i'm
using a pax 3 to vaporize it. i used to flower vaporizer all
the time, and this is the first time in years i've moved
back to that as my primary method, and i have to say -- very
good headspace. only switched because i've no idea where to
get oil carts, but i think i like this better


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-05-09 17:22 [#02601487]
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oil can be a little "clean" especially if it's a butane
extraction, i used to like a more full-spectrum one from
fan-drird alcohol. gives you an almost black oil / tar with
more weedy flavour and a fuzzier body high. this is all
academic for me though, not smoked oil in years


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-09 19:15 [#02601490]
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that strange feeling where it's a very particular sort of
high and it's like i've gone into my brain's basement and
gotten a state of mind off the shelf i haven't used in a
good while


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-09 19:15 [#02601491]
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p. good saturday so far, all told.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-09 19:22 [#02601492]
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apparently my vaporizer has bluetooth for calibration and
stat tracking
you could probably rig it to post to twitter each puff


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-10 08:59 [#02601504]
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thanks for the words of encouragement, need to hear this
kind of thing.


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-10 09:00 [#02601505]
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weed is a different animal, different kind of addiction.
Admittedly I am addicted to it, but don't usually crave it
until the evening and then you have one or two throughout
the evening... it's the lesser evil in my mind


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-10 09:03 [#02601506]
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I mean sometimes things get a little carried away and you
smoke too much of it, you become especially immobile, not
the worst thing that could happen


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-05-10 10:35 [#02601511]
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i can get over tobacco more easily than good weed


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-10 10:51 [#02601512]
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Maybe... in this case weed was chosen over tobacco but
wasn’t so much a conscious choice. Not too long ago I
thought it would go the other away.


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-10 10:52 [#02601513]
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*way



 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-10 10:54 [#02601514]
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I would venture to say that weed helps with the tab
withdrawal.

Must say i like a good spliff so missing true tobacco in the
joints. Even my wife, who really inky smokes when she’s
feeling festive, has been toking with me in the evenings
because it lessens the cravings.

Alcohol on the other hand, was tough drinking and not having
a cigarette. We smoked more weed to compensate.


 

online Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2020-05-10 13:18 [#02601515]
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I never know where to buy it. Is it wrong to ask on the Next
door App?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-10 14:55 [#02601521]
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i'm not sure weed is right for you. it might trigger some
self-reflection


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-05-10 16:42 [#02601525]
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he he


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-11 07:49 [#02601541]
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think we're going to try to cut down on the weed too now.

Not my idea.


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-12 12:23 [#02601569]
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fjgs9e4ut49utg94gt84yt23u32df240fu42u9298



 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-12 12:24 [#02601570]
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^^ supposed to represent my fuirstartion but just looks
looks a crypto wallet address


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-12 13:16 [#02601571]
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it's fuckin tough

respect to people who kick harder drugs


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-12 13:18 [#02601572]
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you should stick to your own ideas


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-12 13:57 [#02601575]
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I'll stick to ideas I think are good, regadless of where
they come from



 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2020-05-12 14:10 [#02601576]
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Portnoy is the crab trying to climb out of the bucket, and
Epic is the crab trying to pull him back in.

LAZY_crabs


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-12 18:35 [#02601581]
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I'll stick to ideas I think are good, regadless of where
they come from


the way you wrote it, it just sounded like you didn't think
it was a good idea

Portnoy is the crab trying to climb out of the bucket,
and Epic is the crab trying to pull him back in.


you're just lonely in the "does whatever the wife says"
bucket


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-05-12 20:07 [#02601586]
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I do do what the wife says. It’s easier that way. Unless
it contravenes some sacred personal law, in that case I
stand my ground.

Tbh Idk if it is a good idea. Speaking tobacco here, still
dipping in the weed. I have come to realise cigarettes are
there to fill the void of existence, the nothing, the deep
nothing. I’m craving a cigarette, I wonder what I could do
instead, something, anything!! And I am doing some things,
all kinds of unnecessary things. Is it either a passive
smoke filled life or a busy body smoke free existence. Need
to find some middle ground or I might turn into something I
don’t want to be.


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2020-05-12 21:26 [#02601588]
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Right around now is when the Tobacco Demons start whispering
into your ear that it's not normal to never smoke again,
it's not good, your life has no axis... what if you could
just smoke once in a while, like a good boy? You don't want
to turn into an annoying smokeless monster, do you?

Look the invisible demons in the eye and pee on their
shoes
, friend. Those voices are the sound of your
addiction dying.


 


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