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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-27 16:12 [#02310251]
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Are they?
I'm going to buy a new laptop in a month or two and wondered if mac users feel like the extra cash is well spent. I like the OS (but will be dual booting with windows for some apps anyway) but care most about the build quality (My current laptop is pretty battered after just a few years).
Are people happy with their macs, especially considering you can get higher spec PCs for the same price?
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-07-27 16:42 [#02310263]
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why dont you just use your old laptop
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-27 16:42 [#02310265]
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For me personally, buying a mac was one of the best decisions i've ever made. I have one and shall only buying macs from now on.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-27 16:43 [#02310267]
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*be
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-27 16:44 [#02310268]
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It is dying. You can have it for 50 quid.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-27 16:45 [#02310269]
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Please tell me why!
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2009-07-27 16:45 [#02310271]
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great battery life, great build quality, great specs and perfect size. also, you can run any OS you want on it.
I'm considering getting a 13" myself for studies.
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-07-27 16:47 [#02310273]
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you should get a linix
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-07-27 16:48 [#02310274]
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ubuntu is just as cool looking as mac ox.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2009-07-27 17:10 [#02310286]
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i think you should buy a mac. vlari will brief you in on the details (why'a and how's), as i don't want to come off like a fucking mac ad
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-27 17:15 [#02310287]
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definitely imo. tho it's shit that they took out firewire 400 in that recent build- fucking stupid form before function. I couldn't give a shit if it's made out of one piece of metal or 5000, i'd like to be able to plug my motu in please.
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RussellDust
on 2009-07-27 17:24 [#02310291]
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Join Stephen Fry, Vlarice, Douglas Adams (rip), ae, a guy called lupus and the whole crew of Mac owners! Join us!
(Adams and fry were the first to own one in the UK apparently)
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b6662966
from ? on 2009-07-27 17:26 [#02310292]
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Its not worth it. I bought a macbook 2 years ago and had many hardware issues with it. I ended up buying a windows laptop at best buy for a third of what I paid for my macbook and ive gotten infinitely more use from the PC than I ever did with the mac.
buy the cheaper PC laptop (which will have the same specs as the mac) and spend the money you save on software, a mouse, keyboard, nice speakers, whatever you want!
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-27 17:33 [#02310294]
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i say yes had macbook 13inch for a couple of years nowm its worth it for an os that works.
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RussellDust
on 2009-07-27 17:43 [#02310295]
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Yes we'd love you to join us!
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-07-27 17:47 [#02310297]
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so it's not worth it because you had a faulty macbook?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2009-07-27 17:47 [#02310298]
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here's your answer
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freqy
on 2009-07-27 18:15 [#02310310]
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haha people would buy it too..
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b6662966
from ? on 2009-07-28 01:04 [#02310336]
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It wasnt faulty, it suffered from problems that these fuckin macbooks have traditionally suffered from but was unaware when I purchased. The fuckin thing was too fragile and I hated using it because I felt i was going to break it everytime I tried. I suppose thats another reason to buy a PC, theyre cheaper with the very same specs but are also more robust.
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Mask 500
from now on 2009-07-28 01:55 [#02310338]
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Who cares about the OS? XP, Vista and Win7 do work, the point is being able to run the software you want.
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diamondtron
on 2009-07-28 02:27 [#02310339]
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of course they are not worth it it's capitalist profit
tho if you are going to buy something either buy the crap cheapest thing ot the best most expensive, anything else is a compromise
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2009-07-28 02:45 [#02310341]
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When you're shopping for a laptop, and are deciding between a Windows-based laptop and an OSX-based laptop, remember one thing: the hardware is all the same!
I use an Apple laptop, though my primary computer is a Linux workstation. That being said, I am glad to pay the Apple premium if it means I won't have to deal with Windows.
Don't buy a Mac expecting to get the following:
Better hardware Better support Better reliability Better performance Chicks
Buy a mac if you understand the follies of having to use Windows, by far the worst and most horridly designed OS in the history of the world. Until somebody can get a 100% functional Hackintosh setup going, this is the only way to get a UNIX-based laptop that isn't Linux. And frankly, the new MacBook Pros run Linux pretty well too.
So yeah, in other words, they are basically just as crappy as any Windows laptop, but cost a couple hundred dollars more, and run a significantly better (but, still bad in relation to other options) operating system.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-28 02:56 [#02310344]
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btw i have a 13 inch macbook and no case or anything and i always take it out and about and it has never failed me in 18months +.
DO expect better support (apple will replace anything - they have for me with my power supply etc) better performance/reliability (my os has never ever crashed once or never had one virus and you dont need antivirus shit) and every bit of hardware added just works - no installation.
my experiences anyway
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-28 03:10 [#02310346]
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Anything that's ever broke on my powerbook/macbook has been replaced in about 5 days with applecare. I got a new screen and a complete new enclosure at one point, which felt just like a new computer. Yes things can break but i'd never say that the build of a aluminum mac was comparable to the average cheap plastic pc. Sony seem to the main competitor but they're as expensive and still very plasticy. [heat dissipation and fan noise always being a problem on plastic pcs i've used]
But anyway, this debate is as old as the hills. Walk into PC World and check out the hardware for yourself. if your use a computer everyday in life and work on it then spending a bit more to have a more pleasurable 3-4 years till your next upgrade isn't really too mental.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-07-28 03:30 [#02310347]
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i've got an early'08 2.4GB MBPro which is my first mac and opposing to what b6662966 says, this box doesn't feel like it would ever fall apart.
the OS is a pleasure to use especially with Quicksilver. Mask 500 says who cares, but imo the OS's shell is critical part of the user interface. Apple's user interface = winner.
also i've had more than a dozen chicks in that last year, about as many as in the years before.
/macDorkMode
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2009-07-28 03:46 [#02310348]
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i fucking like macs
thats what it basically boils down to
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Mask 500
from now on 2009-07-28 03:53 [#02310349]
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Of course the UI is important but most OS's for the tasks that most people do they're all on the same level.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2009-07-28 04:22 [#02310351]
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i know dennis really wants one
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-07-28 04:29 [#02310353]
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mac thread.... how can i resist!
haha surprisingly, i'll just say what i always do: go to a mac showroom and have a go on one. if you like it, then fair enough. i think most people already know my views on apple, but if you find yourself enjoying using a mac and get more work (or play) done with one, then fair enough i say.
i will say i bought one of those new ipod shuffles the other day without realising that you can't use your own headphones with it.. this did not help change my impression of apple, especially considering there isn't an adapter available yet. nice design though and the whole shuffle system is perfect for my needs. the stock ipod headphones are absolutely un-usable though. in fact, they're the worst i've ever used, but i digress.
oh and obligatory mac sucks sentence to finish with :)
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-07-28 04:31 [#02310354]
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oh and this is what happens when i use a mac
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hexane
on 2009-07-28 04:53 [#02310357]
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pros: - bright screen good for design work - customiseable trackpad gestures for yer apps (multiclutch)
- not really much of a pro but bootcamp3.0 fixes trackpad issues in bootcamp (tap-to-click, 2-finger tap-to-right-click)
- takes no time waking up from sleep when you open the screen
- my penix stands erect each time i boot up and hear that sound
cons: - dead pixels after a year - no home/end keys you need to command-arrow that bitch - poor battery life in bootcamp - you can triple boot linux osx and windows on the 1hdd but its a pain in the arse to set up
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hexane
on 2009-07-28 05:14 [#02310358]
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oh and this is what happens when i use a mac(nsfw)
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RussellDust
on 2009-07-28 06:33 [#02310370]
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Haha the amount of anti-mac drivel in this thread! It's as if because you have a PC then you have to say Mac is shit. People saying they are fragile? please! : )
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Quaristice
on 2009-07-28 06:37 [#02310371]
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Macs are OK, but OSX is a bit outdated now.
They are very expensive too, but you are paying for the pleasing design. PCs are cheaper and more powerful but tend to look ugly.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2009-07-28 06:39 [#02310373]
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macs always seemed like a computer for professionals to me like, you know, graphic designers, creative-types and such, and it's severely lacking in video games
i'm not a big fan of that
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RussellDust
on 2009-07-28 06:42 [#02310374]
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Very true about videogames : (
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-28 06:56 [#02310376]
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not had any problems to report on my MBP which iv'e been using for a few years now
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-28 07:02 [#02310378]
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u r right, but at least mame + a few other emulators are pretty well supported. you can always run windows of course, not being able to upgrade graphics card is pretty suck though.
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noon
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-28 07:08 [#02310382]
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PCs are rubbish
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Mask 500
from now on 2009-07-28 07:23 [#02310384]
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Not anymore they aren't, CS4 is still 32bit on Apple, next version they both will. This is just an example, back in the 90's it was all a diferent story tho as Mac's had a clear advantage. Of course creatives will still go for Apple hardware as that's fashionable and more impressible to clients plus they have good hardware.
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PORICK
from fucking IRELAND on 2009-07-28 07:30 [#02310386]
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No, they're not
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noon
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-28 08:31 [#02310391]
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get a SAM Coupé
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2009-07-28 09:20 [#02310396]
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i personally wouldn't touch Apple portables anymore, considering 4 of them have died of the same issue. search the board and i'm sure you'll come across my trials and tribulations.
i used to be one of the most pro-Macintosh guys on the board.
if you want to get an Apple, go for the Mac Pro desktop tower systems. steer clear of any Apple machine that uses their laptop logic boards (that goes for any of their portable line, the Mac Mini, and the iMac).
But considering the price of the Mac Pro tower, you'd be better off going for one of those Pystar clones. even if you have to pay import duty you'll still get a better machine for much cheaper, and it'll run OS X
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2009-07-28 09:21 [#02310397]
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"4 of them have died of the same issue" was meant to imply that 4 machines i've personally owned.
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freqy
on 2009-07-28 09:53 [#02310399]
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might sound nutty ..
buy a tower pc and overclock a multicore cpu for half the price and get x6 the cpu power . get a sled/trolley ,a portable psu from a heavy duty truck battery and make it mobile by being towed by husky dogs !!
you'll turn heads , you'll process much faster ..and even have cuddley wuddly huskys to cuddle during long 3d renders.
:P husky mobile pc husky can also program for you
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-28 10:54 [#02310404]
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Thanks for all your conflicting opinions guys! :)
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-28 12:43 [#02310423]
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They are not worth the money. If you have the money to spend, consider getting a thinkpad. You won't be disapointed. I'm currently typing this on a thinkpad T60 and quite frankly almost all other laptops feel like cheap crap compared.
I also find the black conservative thinkpad look much more professional. I don't need a silly glowing piece of fruit on the case, thank you very much!
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RussellDust
on 2009-07-28 12:45 [#02310424]
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That's the worst post you've ever made. Sounds like you've tested everything.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-07-28 13:18 [#02310427]
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actually, he's quite right about thinkpads - they're absolutely solid and probably the best pc laptops, alongside the high-end sonys for me.
macs have beautiful exteriors, but the parts they include inside leave much to be desired, especially with regards to the video card.
apple are more about convenience than rock solid performance. i always say that for the same money, you can get a better performing pc, which may or may not be slightly uglier than the mac. in the end though, it all comes down to the software you intend to use on your lappy.
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RussellDust
on 2009-07-28 13:23 [#02310428]
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My sister in law (not the lightest of girls) once sat on a chair that had two legs on my old g4 laptop. She noticed after about 45 mins. It still works today. The only downside i see in mac is that lately it's got a bit too big. Less quality materials, viruses etc are now a part of the mac experience. It wasn't so much the case before the bloody Ipod.
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