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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-05-01 13:34 [#01582494]
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"Thats like saying if I hold up Draft 7.30 to the light, in a
mirror I will see the Qabilistic Sephir Yetzrah. "
if You haven't yet You never will
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-01 13:36 [#01582495]
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oh man its not secret gods other name is james macleiod
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-01 13:40 [#01582498]
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gods icq name is 4lph4-0m3g4 (rumor of course)
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-01 13:44 [#01582501]
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him aim name is god*1
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-01 13:49 [#01582505]
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Holy shit, that's a revelation to me.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2005-05-01 13:56 [#01582509]
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well gl0tch, I don't know about seeing any of the Sephiroth in such places, because I'm talking about geometry, where you don't need any special lighting or mindset, only a ruler or a measure stick of some kind.
I know it's in the layout of Washington D.C. as well and of course you can blame the Masons or the Jewish International for putting it there, or maybe simply the tradition of esteeming Pythagorean symmetry. Likewise you can say exoskeletons are Mother Nature's little accidents - or God the Father's premature sperm spurts. (like so many of us)
But when it's in art, it's usually calculated - instinctively or not - to appeal to our sense of beauty.
I was just looking at the Draft 7.30 cover, and even though some forms of Fibonacci ratios can be discerned, it's not crying it out like the Untilted one.
I mean: just place some vertical divider between the point where the leftmost part of the image gives way to the blank space at the left, and measure it out (as I have done): It's obvious, and could be included in any math book as an examplary case.
I don't care if you say it's "silly" - although silly I am. It's just a basic category of art cricisism that I'm applying here.
But maybe that's too sober an answer? I don't mind qabbalah either, but geometry's more to the point hmm.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-05-01 14:00 [#01582512]
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Geometry is in Qabbalah and I'm not sure how much its about Art Criticism as much as its [art] commentary.
in any case, good sense of perception though I still think the Draft 7.30 art is much more engaging and esoteric for that matter.
Clearly, the album art for EP7 is derivative of these "theories"
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-01 14:02 [#01582516]
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ok you're gonna have to draw some of this out
or something man you're not making any sense and my heads about to fuckin explode
the draft cards are funky man, i like them cause its like graffiti dude..
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uzim
on 2005-05-01 14:04 [#01582522]
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...anyone cares enough to/is bored enough to find some pictures of the inside booklet or something if it's better?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-05-01 14:04 [#01582523]
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I'm so seriously going to do the rest of the album art when I get a chance. I'll try to keep the colors the same and have it wrap around to the inside for some more funkier (and complex) designs.
should I keep it in the 2 page booklet format or a 4-square gatefold poster?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-01 14:05 [#01582524]
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uzim it's grey - the only active stuff is on the front cvr. that design youve seen.
could argue that its all "active" though, 100% of it..
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-01 14:06 [#01582527]
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gl0tch i didnt think that "fake" album art you did was bad at all dude!
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-01 14:06 [#01582528]
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thats all very well-but you view that very same draft artwork outside at a 43/6 angle with the moon to the north,you will see items 1 3 and 9 to the left of the polar bears should infact make the dimentions seem a little smaller creating a vacum causing the bin to fall over
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-01 14:09 [#01582530]
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:D!
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-05-01 14:09 [#01582531]
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thanks dude.
At this point I want to "add to" the blue, silver, and yellow design since its sooooo bland.
I'll try to give it a post-draft feel and make it hot, more like what I was expecting and hoping for.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-01 14:12 [#01582535]
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The golden ratio is an irrational number, approximately 1.618, that possesses many interesting properties. Shapes defined by the golden ratio have long been considered aesthetically pleasing in western cultures, reflecting nature's balance between symmetry and asymmetry and the ancient Pythagorean belief that reality is a numerical reality, except that numbers were not units as we define them today, but were expressions of ratios. The golden ratio is still used frequently in art and design. The golden ratio is also referred to as the golden mean, golden section, golden number or divine proportion.
The golden ratio was first studied by ancient mathematicians due to its frequent appearance in geometry. The golden ratio seems to have been understood and used by the Egyptians. The discovery of irrational numbers, numbers that cannot be represented as an exact ratio of two integers, is usually attributed to Pythagoras (or to the Pythagoreans, notably Theodorus) or to Hippasus of Metapontum. Euclid spoke of the "golden mean" this way, "A straight line is said to have been cut in extreme and mean ratio when, as the whole line is to the greater segment, so is the greater to the lesser".
The golden ratio is symbolized by the Greek letter φ (phi) with τ (tau) being less common.
from wikipedia... theres much more there actually
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-01 14:15 [#01582539]
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right thats that cleared up then
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-05-01 14:16 [#01582541]
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hahahaha
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-01 14:18 [#01582544]
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ok im out you guys dont alert any govt officials on any ae cover art conspiracies ok keep it real
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uzim
on 2005-05-01 14:18 [#01582548]
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ok thanks : )
the "deluxe" edition of And All That Could Have Been by Nine Inch Nails also had minimal cover, and with some blank grey pages on the booklet, but looked pretty good in my opinion...
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-05-01 14:19 [#01582550]
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Another geometrical figure that is commonly associated with Phi is the Golden Rectangle. This particular rectangle has sides A and B that are in proportion to the Golden Ratio. It has been said that the Golden Rectangle is the most pleasing rectangle to the eye. If fact, it is said that any geometrical shape that has the Golden Ratio in it is the most pleasing to look at of those types of figures. Anyhow, here is a picture of the Golden Rectangle.
Keep this rectangle in mind, I'll be coming back to it later. But right now, I want to show where The Golden Ratio (Phi) pops up in other geometrical figures.
We can use the Golden Section to construct a regular pentagon.
If you would like to see a GSP script of this construction, click here. If we connect the vertices of the regular pentagon, we can get two different Golden Traingles. The blue triangle has its sides in the golden ratio with its base, and the red triangle has its base in the golden ratio with one of the sides.
If we inscribe a regular decagon in a circle, the ratio of a side of the decagon to the radius of the circle forms the golden ratio.
If we divide a circle into two arcs in the proportion of the Golden ratio, the central angle of the smaller arc marks off the Golden Angle, is 137.5 degrees.
We can also form a Golden Ellipse. This ellipse has its two axes in the Golden Ratio.
Let's turn back to one of the Golden Triangles for a moment. If we take the isoceles triangle that has the two base angles of 72 degrees and we bisect one of the base angles, we should see that we get another Golden triangle that is similar to the first (Figure 1). If we continue in this fashion we should get a set of Whirling Triangles (Figure 2).
Figure 1 Figure 2
Out of these Whirling Triangles, we are able to draw a logarithmic spiral that will converge at the intersection of the the two blue lines in Figure 3.
Figure 3
We can do a similar thing with the Golden Rectangle. We can make a set of Whirling Rectangles that produces a similar
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2005-05-02 04:05 [#01583085]
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does anyone know were to find high res images of draft and pen expers artwork? They have to be somewhere here....
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-05-02 10:13 [#01583300]
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maths sucks
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-05-02 15:34 [#01583719]
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I hadn't seen this before today.. I saw an album at the store with some blue and grey stuff, and I instantly knew it was autechre.. I guess it's pretty "regular" for them, then, seeing as I've never seen an autechre album artwork before, and I've never seen the untilted artwork either. weird how I knew it was them, actually...
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-02 15:35 [#01583721]
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i feel ashamed for dissing the a/w cause i wasnt feeling it at the time, can we quit summoning this thread already :(
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-02 15:38 [#01583724]
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actually nevermind cause albeit wrong that geometric mathics is fresh
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-02 16:10 [#01583750]
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no lets keep this thread goin for at least anutha 3 days=the artwork is awesome,and so is vodka and porn
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-02 16:11 [#01583751]
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and donna kebabs
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-05-02 16:14 [#01583752]
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i got a bottle of vodka off my managerr today 'cause i worrked a bank holiday.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-02 16:15 [#01583753]
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I couldn't agree more!
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-02 16:17 [#01583754]
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ah man feel a vodka party coming on-joyyyyyyyyyyy
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yann_g
from now on 2005-05-02 18:00 [#01583876]
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anyone who digs this artwork should visit universal everything the designers republic for a few design lessons.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-05-02 18:02 [#01583881]
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hands work better for masturbation
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yann_g
from now on 2005-05-02 18:03 [#01583883]
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one of their best, with draft and the anti ep.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-05-02 18:20 [#01583903]
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i think i've just contributed
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Opto
on 2005-05-03 04:05 [#01584068]
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you fuckers, youre just tryin to be wise after reading the da vinci code LOL
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-05-03 04:22 [#01584073]
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its not that it sucks, its that all previous ae art was better
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-03-19 23:13 [#02372491]
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6. Geometry
LAZY_TITLE
A pentagram colored to distinguish its line segments of different lengths. The four lengths are golden ratio in to one another.
gonna do music with pieces of plastic
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catfood03
on 2010-03-20 03:20 [#02372504]
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tri rep is the best cover art
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