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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-08-31 02:38 [#00373342]
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Not really, most people I know in the UK have never heard of him. I reckon you could compare cd sales but that doesn't seem like a particularly good way of measuring popularity.
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-31 02:39 [#00373345]
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lol that's awesome, I despise Moby. Great photo.
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Ubik
from United States on 2002-08-31 02:52 [#00373361]
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Eminem has to hate SOMEBODY, its part of persona... he can't hate fags anymore... thats played out, he can't play the race card, he has already spewed out lots of hate at his mommy... so why not hate Moby??? he is a dweeb, rips off black music to make himself rich in a different way than Eminem... so why not? You gotta hate something, might as well be Moby! Moby brings it on himself anyway
i actually like Eminem, thou he seems a bit naive in the music department, and he can only rap about himself or it gets boring fast.... Eminem needs more creativity on the production side... dre gets him a bouncy cathy pop single "Without me", other than that the only tracks that i can even remember are "Square Dance" and the repetitious over the top "White America"
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-08-31 03:19 [#00373377]
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Moby's been around 10 years, must be doing SOMETHING right, although it's not his music...
I doubt Em will last that long, considering the fickle tastes of hip-hop and his own self-destructive behavior...
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-08-31 04:49 [#00373401]
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ok... they both realy suck mega CC and they are both pop sub cultures.... and the pic is very very damn funny.... but who the hell told M&M to wear that stupid hat ???? .... i think people booed him just cause he looks like a total chummmmmp
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-31 04:51 [#00373404]
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thanks for flipping moby off for me, eminem. you rule.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-31 04:53 [#00373406]
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Ubik: eminem did the beat for "without me", not dr. dre. dre did "business", "say what you say", and another one i can't think of at the moment.
i think eminem's production is much more creative than moby's. all of 18 and most of play sounds the same.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-31 04:55 [#00373407]
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even these people hate moby (the hairy arm is his)
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-08-31 05:02 [#00373416]
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Wow! Britney and Justin don't look so good...
;.)
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dan7250
from Osaka (Japan) on 2002-08-31 06:00 [#00373439]
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moby is ok.... eminem is possibly the biggest fucking loser fucking retard.
fuck.... what is he wearing? have you heard interviews with him? what a dumb shit. plz. someone give him a fucking decent haircut..... fuck!!FUCK!!!
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MAGICNINJA
from G-ville of tha FL (United States) on 2002-08-31 06:12 [#00373452]
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I can totally relate to the being turned off with the mainstream being like, "Did you hear the new..." that happened to me with Weezer. That and them just starting to suck. But even the old stuff doesnt sound the same
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dave
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-08-31 07:03 [#00373493]
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man i was watching that and eminem sayed "eep booing!, im not afraid to hit a man with glasses"
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-08-31 07:56 [#00373526]
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(from verse #3 of eminem's "without me")
And Moby, you can get stomped by Obie, You 36 year old bald headed fag blow me You don't know me, you're too old Let go, it's over, nobody listens to techno
(pachi)
I LISTEN TO TECHNO, BIOTCH!!!!
>=(
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brendan
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-08-31 13:04 [#00373658]
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I have nothing against either of them, although i like Eminem's music more than Moby's. I've been a fan of Eminem since Infinite first came out, and i still am. Just because he's popular now, doesn't mean he sucks. He still produces good music, and always has IMHO.
My Eminem Collection Eminem Show Live At Brixton Academy Off The Wall Rap Attack Freestyles 2 Loosing It Platinum Collection 2001 Slim Shady Infinite Marshall Mathers LP RIP Kim
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-31 13:19 [#00373659]
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I prefer Eminem to Moby but I hate all this "I listened to Eminem since Infinite came out." The number of people who say that and yet the record sold somthing like 3 copies world wide. It was also shite. I have listened to rap for over ten years and the first I heard of Eminem was "Just don't give a fuck" off the Slim Shady EP.
But Moby released a classic with Go. So I can't complain about him.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-08-31 13:20 [#00373661]
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Eminem is Elvis resurected hehe!. Being white and doing black music thats been there for ages and then become the biggest on the scene.
Also Elvis was considered very controversial at the time . Isn't eminem the biggest selling rapper? History repeats itself and that can only mean one thing , Eminem will become fat and eat himself to death hahahaha!
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-08-31 13:24 [#00373662]
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Oh and both their artist names start with E!!!!
And remember the Elvis anagram Elvis=Lives
muahahaha!
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brendan
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-08-31 13:32 [#00373663]
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ecnadniarb: I must have 1 of the first 3 sold then, heh. I don't think it was shite either, just wasn't very well produced. Infinite (the song) is my all time favourite song of his. And i've been a fan of rap for around 10 years too. Although IDM owns it now. I can't listen to anything other than IDM now.
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-31 13:35 [#00373664]
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It was before he developed his style and was trying to rhyme like other people. None of the tracks had the humour he put in the tracks that followed, the production was very weak, and I stand by my opinion it wasn't a good album. :)
btw, I don't like IDM. I only come here to laugh at the people who think it is a valid form of music.
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brendan
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-08-31 13:51 [#00373668]
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That's cool, it's your opinion. Still has some catchy tunes on it though. And i don't listen to Eminem for humour, that's just a bonus.
And damn dude, you must be pretty bored then.
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-31 13:55 [#00373670]
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Yes but the sooner the world realises that my opinion is the only opinion that matters the better.
I just listen to the sounds around me, who needs music then? Why would I be bored? Look at some of the other threads on ths board with people saying how depressed they are and how music is their only friend...I smile 99.9% of the time and 0.1% of the time I just smirk.
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brendan
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-08-31 14:20 [#00373673]
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Alright...
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-08-31 15:08 [#00373699]
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i like moby a lot, have all his cds, if you dont like him, dont listen to him.the end.
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-31 18:07 [#00373798]
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Magic, I felt the same way about Weezer for a while. "Pinkerton" was a waste of money, and I never bothered to buy "The Green Album", but last month I decided to give their recent album "Maladroit" a chance and it was quite good... back to their heavier style, like on the first album.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-08-31 18:10 [#00373801]
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MAGICNINJA?
Hey! Raimons has a track called Magic Ninja.
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-31 18:20 [#00373811]
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Back to that photo, I love how Moby gives off this impression that he's sitting there going, "huh? duh, wha'? what's going on?"... classic.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-31 18:28 [#00373820]
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eminem will kick moby's bitchy lil arse!
thats to quote axl rose....=0)
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Judge Dredd
on 2002-09-01 02:28 [#00374177]
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Who's Obie?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-09-01 02:46 [#00374179]
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who's enimen?
ah.. don't really have a thing for either ..
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-01 02:54 [#00374181]
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obie trice, real name no gimmicks
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Judge Dredd
on 2002-09-01 03:24 [#00374185]
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Is he relevant to the Moby situation, or just convenient because of his rhyming name?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-01 03:34 [#00374190]
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the latter, though from what i understand he hates moby as well. i guess for the same two reasons eminem hates him: he talked shit about eminem (obie's pal! ;) ) and his music is annoying.
a lot of hip-hop people used to like moby but are tired of him now. the roots, who moby is a huge fan of, thought 18 was a major let-down. and rightfully so...
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moskwen
from Curitiba (Brazil) on 2002-09-01 03:38 [#00374191]
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eminem = crap
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-01 06:22 [#00374217]
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moby = crap!
i listened to 'play' and 'everything is wrong' today for the first time in 2 years. both are excellent, albeit a bit predictable in mood and chord structure. '18' is horrendous though.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-09-01 07:03 [#00374236]
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my thoughts exactly
hey, if anyone wants a good laugh, the moby forum is up in arms about all this
www.moby.com
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-01 07:11 [#00374247]
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i know the webmaster of moby.com. she's a girl who will be a senior at my college this year. her radio show sucks (she plays crap like disturbed even tho she privately loves godspeed you black emperor!, mos def, and nin... go figure) ... but she's a nice girl. i can't hate her. i still hate moby though.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-01 08:55 [#00374332]
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Moby's music is fairly enjoyable, albiet very easy to listen to, and pretty predictable...however, I don't think Eminem has the right to cuss anyone, especially considering his music isn't too great itself...mind you, it is good if you want to hear the f-word plenty of times...:D
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-09-01 11:22 [#00374362]
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Mobys own comments from Moby.com
"i think that eminem is talented and interesting but i'm kind of stunned at the anger that he has for me seeing as i'd never met him up until last night."
"and i do feel the need to clarify one last little point. when eminem accepted his award i was not booing. ironically enough i was clapping because that seemed like the polite thing to do. everyone around me was booing him, but i was sitting there politely clapping. i don't know why he accused me of booing him, because for what it's worth i certainly was not."
hehe! he is very comfused now. Like i said before , picking a fight with moby is like picking a fight with a moonk or a priest, it is not exactly a brave or daring thing to do haha! What a pussy Eminem is!!!!
And they had never met hahaha! its just a stupid media trick.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2002-09-01 17:43 [#00374617]
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Moby's a good guy who couldn't (wouldn't want to) hurt a fly. All hail moby.
So he makes bad music, no one's perfect.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-09-01 17:53 [#00374622]
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he may seem like a good guy, but hes smug as hell. and he makes terrible music.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-01 17:57 [#00374626]
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he's totally sold out even in his political views (the old ones he now disavows).
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AC
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-01 17:58 [#00374628]
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I bought the Moby album 18 on the spur of the moment and gave it to a friend before i had heard the whole thing. Then I had to buy it again for my mum's birthday. Gah.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-09-01 18:01 [#00374633]
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18 is nearly a track by track rehash of play. terrible. and play wasn't very good to begin with.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-01 18:31 [#00374649]
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...it seems popular to hate Moby here....true, 18 was a little...er...cack. But, he is, unlike Eminem, mostly respectable as a person, and at least he doesn't feel the need to cuss his mother, homosexuals, or other musicians. Eminem's constant hatred gets on my nerves, and, if he really wants to be a "badboy", couldn't he could pick on someone a little more vicious than Moby?
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-01 18:39 [#00374652]
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Cos someone a little more vicious would eat his balls for breakfast !!
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-09-01 18:39 [#00374653]
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Dumb fuckhead bitch mis-channeling his anger.
thats eminem BTW. wanker !
But he still has 100x the charisma of the dull moby, who should just let his music do the talking m'kay.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2002-09-01 18:55 [#00374666]
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That's the problem with moby...his music doesn't do any kind of "talking" whatsoever.
Still, he seems like an alright guy.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-09-02 03:42 [#00375152]
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AT least Moby has composed 'one' awesome song, unlike E.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-02 20:21 [#00376001]
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how is moby a respectable person? i have zero respect for him and feel totally justified in that. i have some respect for eminem though cos he says what's on his mind even if people hate him for it. sure, you (not me) could be cynical and call that marketing but i believe he's sincere. even if i don't agree with what he says i have to admire him for having the balls to say and do what he wants. he's utilizing his sudden (he spent years in the hip-hop underground scene) fame to bring up some very interesting subjects in his lyrics (whether or not you (not me) pay attention to those lyrics versus the lines he throws in just to fuck with people).
for the record, moby and eminem have both produced a ton of awesome songs IMO.
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-09-02 20:53 [#00376042]
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100 Posts!
I'm a dork. ;p
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