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offline RussellDust on 2009-12-14 13:59 [#02351118]
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It reminds of that Edit bloke.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:00 [#02351119]
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Irreverent,

I LOVE it! :)

Only joking. I do wonder what you would really be called
though...


 

offline atwood from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:04 [#02351121]
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I wouldnt.Im a 'female',traccy...
The best that I can ever aspire to is becoming an
electronica muso's g.f.
cuz I dont fink dey haz gwoupiez



 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:10 [#02351125]
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The lyrical melody was kinda cool, but again, it stinks of
someone having learned how to make music through
conventional means i.e educational institution like college,
rather than just learning how to do his own thing, like AFX,
who actually has something to say with his choons, and
learned almost everything he knows from trial and error and
innate ability.

Even if FB didn't go to a musical college, I maintain that
he sounds like he did. His music is generic and denotative-
there's no mystery or flair and it is so rigid with
intention.

Also, he looks so frickin Bohemian (in a bad way) on that
album cover it is cringe-worthy.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-12-14 14:11 [#02351126]
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beaker sunset one of my favs.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:15 [#02351127]
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Aw, don't be like that. :(


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:16 [#02351128]
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Are you trying to say that I'm a chauvinist?


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:19 [#02351130]
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That song is a result of Mr Bulb readingthis me
thinks. :(


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:21 [#02351132]
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It makes me sad that so many people on XL like FLashbulb,
cos I know that deep down they are good, cool people. :(

Then again, I guess it's not that bad (only in my humble
little opinion) to like a few tracks by this guy. Not a
whole album, though.



 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-14 14:22 [#02351133]
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So you maintain he sounds like he went to 'musical
college'?



 

offline atwood from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:22 [#02351134]
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You dont strike me as a nationalist,so no.
Oh...you mean male chauvinist?
Perish the thought.


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-14 14:23 [#02351135]
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I promise i will never like a whoe album!


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:26 [#02351140]
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I'm gonna stop now, cos I have made my view known and the
more I talk about this the more I seem like a narrow-minded
wanker.

Thanks for your thoughts on Flashbulb.


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2009-12-14 15:52 [#02351198]
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anytime big man


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 15:57 [#02351201]
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:)


 

offline MASUGNEN from Lund (Sweden) on 2009-12-15 03:24 [#02351397]
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Flashbulb really is "IDM radio", as for example Wisp. Who
has genuinely contributed to this in a all faireness really
quite small genre? Who poses its definition? Aphex Twin,
Squarepusher, mu-Zig, Bogdan Raczynski, Autechre? Of course
there really are good tune-makers (like Flashbulb and Wisp),
but they're different from the movement of creative
originality. What do we need next? How can IDM evolve? Does
it need to? Is it possible? Perhaps Confield and Gantz Graf
is the akme of electronic-musical complexity. Doesn't the
trend go rather in a lo-fi direction?


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-12-15 03:27 [#02351398]
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absolutely horrible track with some of the worst "vocals"
i've ever heard.

flashbulb is gash.

i do quite like some of his acidwolf tracks though, so he's
not entirely useless.


 

offline MASUGNEN from Lund (Sweden) on 2009-12-15 03:41 [#02351400]
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Acidwolf is also my favourite out-put by him, but then
again: it's standard IDM acid, like Syntheme, Global Goon's
and Cylob's latest offerings, not to speak of many Myspace
artists. I find Doubtful Guest's harsher hardcore take on
acid more refreshing. I would brand her IDM aswell. (And I'm
really not opposed to standard genre music, if I – like
for IDM and especially acid – like the genre. But we speak
about something different.)

Luke Vibert should surely be mentioned in the IDM canon
above.

But seriously: what would you like from IDM next?


 

offline MASUGNEN from Lund (Sweden) on 2009-12-15 03:44 [#02351401]
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Black Dog would be an additional IDM pioneer.

Future Sound of London is for me, however great in own
right, more ambient than IDM.


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2009-12-15 04:25 [#02351406]
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something fucking new sounding mind blowing original shit !
like the good electronic music used to be until, dunno,
2001?


 

offline ftc from Australia on 2009-12-15 05:28 [#02351410]
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i've listened to the flashbulb a fair bit and i reckon he's
given a lot more shit than is deserved, but i can see the
reasons. he's pretty talented and diverse, but the
diverseness and releasing too much stuff is where it all
comes apart in terms of listening to an album.

i think his main problem has been releasing albums that are
a total mixed bag. mixed genres and interlacing too many
crap b tracks. it dilutes the radness that the good tunes
have. there may also be the fact that a lot of the tracks
are half guitar and half electronica, whereas most listeners
are going to be on one side of the fence and be annoyed by
the mixing, yet squarepusher pulled it off somehow... well
not really, his albums are pretty mixed too. difference
being the flashbulb uses cheesier samples.

the acidwolf album definitely owns, but then why the fuck
did he mix samples of 'crash test dummies - mmm mmm mmm mmm'
with an 808 or whatever in there? it doesn't fucking fit
and it's pretty boring anyway. just delete that track and
the rest is pretty good. it's a good example of his good
music and bad album track selection skills.

but anyway, in terms of someone making interesting music in
the genre aphex started, the flashbulb is definitely up
there, just ignore the crappy tracks if you can. a good
start, if you like glitch & breakcore is definitely the
'flexing habitual' album. it's the most coherent album
under the flashbulb name and i reckon it's pretty owning.
try that, then you really have to pick and choose tracks
from the rest of his albums, but there's some good shit in
there.


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2009-12-15 06:45 [#02351419]
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BoC are half guitar and half electronica too, but they
actually pull it off. the fact you're describing it as "half
and half" and not as a whole is the problem with his music,
it doesn't mesh dooood


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2009-12-15 06:52 [#02351421]
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(14:49:49) Fahz0r: http://xltronic.com/mb/111624/flashbulb
(14:49:50) Fahz0r: good thread
(14:49:59) Mads: yeh


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2009-12-15 06:53 [#02351422]
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lol


 

offline beNito from Paris (France) on 2009-12-15 10:54 [#02351471]
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this guy sucks balls, big hairy ones


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 11:08 [#02351475]
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But seriously: what would you like from IDM next?

Not shit music... I'd prefer nothing.

I agree, after Untitled, Go Plastic and Drukqs, where is
there to go? Nowhere, that's where.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 11:09 [#02351476]
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Good. I hope you're being serious for a change. :)


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 11:11 [#02351478]
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Yeah, but how can it get better than the big three? That
whole era is over! :(


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 11:11 [#02351479]
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Cheers. :)


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 11:16 [#02351483]
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I agree that Flashbulb isn't as good as Thom, Rich, or the
Autechre bros, so by trying to be he is just being too
ambitious.

The genre that Aphex created? They's some big words. And
what would you say the name of this genre is? I am not
mocking, I am actually interested.

K, I'll try 'flexing habitual', thanks. :)


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2009-12-15 11:35 [#02351494]
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Thom Jhenkinsohn


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 16:00 [#02351586]
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xavtly :)


 

offline morge from United Kingdom on 2009-12-15 17:07 [#02351601]
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James studied for a National Diploma in Engineering from
1988 to 1990 (aged 16 to 18) at Cornwall College. When
talking about his studies, James has said that "music and
electronics went hand in hand."[5] James graduated from
college; according to an engineering lecturer, however, he
often had his headphones on during practical lessons, "no
doubt thinking through the mixes he'd be working on later"

Whitman studied computer music at Berklee College of Musi...


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2009-12-15 17:17 [#02351603]
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the person that comes out of college depends on the person
that goes in. kfw went into college an innately awesome
musician, and came out awesome with added music technique
secrets.


 

offline thatne from United States on 2009-12-15 17:38 [#02351608]
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flahbulb called a girl "angel tits" during sexz0rs


 

offline TroutMask from New York City (United States) on 2009-12-15 17:49 [#02351612]
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come horn


 

offline Advocate on 2009-12-15 18:10 [#02351621]
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i would never befriend someone regularly listening to this.

but that's just me.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 16:03 [#02351907]
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Well said, me neither.



 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2009-12-16 16:13 [#02351916]
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my red hot extensions of ripoff shit

....CAR


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2009-12-16 16:14 [#02351917]
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does anyone remember when he was about to put out a new
album and all these groupies on his forum were like "i'm
doin a school project on u can u cum ova to my hous an hang
out"? it was along those lines anyway.


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-16 16:19 [#02351923]
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Wow thanks! This has left me feeling violated. I'd rather
listen to cygnus talking about stars and clams!


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 16:19 [#02351924]
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No, but lol!


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 16:31 [#02351929]
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Wow, this music is fucking awesome, thanks!

I am not saying ALL people who get educated in any way are
not creative, I am saying that I think this individual, Benn
Jordan, sounds as if he got all his knowledge on how to make
music from secondary sources, music college possible being
one of them.


 

offline morge from United Kingdom on 2009-12-16 16:40 [#02351937]
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yeah I realise that, no worries. I don't listen to Flashbulb
anyway, though the little that I have heard is decent enough
to get riled up to. tunes like his are ten a penny nowadays
though.

Hrvatski is quality, download the track "Carrot (Hrvatski's
nightvision)" if you're looking for music that melds 'live'
instruments and chopped breaks


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 16:45 [#02351940]
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I am feeling a little less than 100%, since I am home atm
and kinda bored, so thanks for helping me discover a fucking
good artist. It makes my evening more ace. Preciate it. :)

BTW, I really liked your old, slightly creepy skull-ish avy.
What ever happened to it?


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2009-12-16 17:53 [#02351976]
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His newer stuff is more interesting to me than the show off
glitchy stuff. I feel glitchy stuff is a bit dangerous to a
track, it can make it or seriously break it, in terms of it
being part of the composition, or just a blatant attack of
'look what i can do'.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 18:20 [#02351997]
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Yeah, I kinda like artists like that. Because I don't make
music myself I can never fully appreciate how hard it is or
how much work goes into making extremely original and
intricate and technical stuff, like Drukqs. So when I hear
stuff that is just as ambitious, but not as good it is good,
cos I have something to compare it to. And this makes me
appreciates artists who are actually good that little bit
more. :)


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2009-12-16 18:55 [#02352032]
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Because I don't make
music myself I can never fully appreciate how hard it is or
how much work goes into making extremely original and
intricate and technical stuff, like Drukqs.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 18:59 [#02352037]
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Yeah...?


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2009-12-16 19:02 [#02352041]
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i think in this case you are missing out. i recon you could
listen to kirlain selections all the way throu. as you have
hinted, you think this kind of music is definitive idm, but
to me that is meaningless. go grab the album and give it a
good listen. its not clinical as you say, its a great style
and a great listen.


 


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