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RussellDust
on 2009-12-14 13:59 [#02351118]
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It reminds of that Edit bloke.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:00 [#02351119]
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Irreverent,
I LOVE it! :)
Only joking. I do wonder what you would really be called though...
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atwood
from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:04 [#02351121]
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I wouldnt.Im a 'female',traccy... The best that I can ever aspire to is becoming an electronica muso's g.f.
cuz I dont fink dey haz gwoupiez
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:10 [#02351125]
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The lyrical melody was kinda cool, but again, it stinks of someone having learned how to make music through conventional means i.e educational institution like college, rather than just learning how to do his own thing, like AFX, who actually has something to say with his choons, and learned almost everything he knows from trial and error and innate ability.
Even if FB didn't go to a musical college, I maintain that he sounds like he did. His music is generic and denotative- there's no mystery or flair and it is so rigid with intention.
Also, he looks so frickin Bohemian (in a bad way) on that album cover it is cringe-worthy.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-12-14 14:11 [#02351126]
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beaker sunset one of my favs.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:15 [#02351127]
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Aw, don't be like that. :(
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:16 [#02351128]
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Are you trying to say that I'm a chauvinist?
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:19 [#02351130]
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That song is a result of Mr Bulb readingthis me thinks. :(
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:21 [#02351132]
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It makes me sad that so many people on XL like FLashbulb, cos I know that deep down they are good, cool people. :(
Then again, I guess it's not that bad (only in my humble little opinion) to like a few tracks by this guy. Not a whole album, though.
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RussellDust
on 2009-12-14 14:22 [#02351133]
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So you maintain he sounds like he went to 'musical college'?
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atwood
from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:22 [#02351134]
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You dont strike me as a nationalist,so no. Oh...you mean male chauvinist? Perish the thought.
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RussellDust
on 2009-12-14 14:23 [#02351135]
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I promise i will never like a whoe album!
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 14:26 [#02351140]
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I'm gonna stop now, cos I have made my view known and the more I talk about this the more I seem like a narrow-minded wanker.
Thanks for your thoughts on Flashbulb.
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2009-12-14 15:52 [#02351198]
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anytime big man
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 15:57 [#02351201]
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:)
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MASUGNEN
from Lund (Sweden) on 2009-12-15 03:24 [#02351397]
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Flashbulb really is "IDM radio", as for example Wisp. Who has genuinely contributed to this in a all faireness really quite small genre? Who poses its definition? Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, mu-Zig, Bogdan Raczynski, Autechre? Of course there really are good tune-makers (like Flashbulb and Wisp), but they're different from the movement of creative originality. What do we need next? How can IDM evolve? Does it need to? Is it possible? Perhaps Confield and Gantz Graf is the akme of electronic-musical complexity. Doesn't the trend go rather in a lo-fi direction?
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-12-15 03:27 [#02351398]
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absolutely horrible track with some of the worst "vocals" i've ever heard.
flashbulb is gash.
i do quite like some of his acidwolf tracks though, so he's not entirely useless.
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MASUGNEN
from Lund (Sweden) on 2009-12-15 03:41 [#02351400]
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Acidwolf is also my favourite out-put by him, but then again: it's standard IDM acid, like Syntheme, Global Goon's and Cylob's latest offerings, not to speak of many Myspace artists. I find Doubtful Guest's harsher hardcore take on acid more refreshing. I would brand her IDM aswell. (And I'm really not opposed to standard genre music, if I – like for IDM and especially acid – like the genre. But we speak about something different.)
Luke Vibert should surely be mentioned in the IDM canon above.
But seriously: what would you like from IDM next?
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MASUGNEN
from Lund (Sweden) on 2009-12-15 03:44 [#02351401]
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Black Dog would be an additional IDM pioneer.
Future Sound of London is for me, however great in own right, more ambient than IDM.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2009-12-15 04:25 [#02351406]
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something fucking new sounding mind blowing original shit ! like the good electronic music used to be until, dunno, 2001?
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ftc
from Australia on 2009-12-15 05:28 [#02351410]
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i've listened to the flashbulb a fair bit and i reckon he's given a lot more shit than is deserved, but i can see the reasons. he's pretty talented and diverse, but the diverseness and releasing too much stuff is where it all comes apart in terms of listening to an album.
i think his main problem has been releasing albums that are a total mixed bag. mixed genres and interlacing too many crap b tracks. it dilutes the radness that the good tunes have. there may also be the fact that a lot of the tracks are half guitar and half electronica, whereas most listeners are going to be on one side of the fence and be annoyed by the mixing, yet squarepusher pulled it off somehow... well not really, his albums are pretty mixed too. difference being the flashbulb uses cheesier samples.
the acidwolf album definitely owns, but then why the fuck did he mix samples of 'crash test dummies - mmm mmm mmm mmm' with an 808 or whatever in there? it doesn't fucking fit and it's pretty boring anyway. just delete that track and the rest is pretty good. it's a good example of his good music and bad album track selection skills.
but anyway, in terms of someone making interesting music in the genre aphex started, the flashbulb is definitely up there, just ignore the crappy tracks if you can. a good start, if you like glitch & breakcore is definitely the 'flexing habitual' album. it's the most coherent album under the flashbulb name and i reckon it's pretty owning. try that, then you really have to pick and choose tracks from the rest of his albums, but there's some good shit in there.
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2009-12-15 06:45 [#02351419]
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BoC are half guitar and half electronica too, but they actually pull it off. the fact you're describing it as "half and half" and not as a whole is the problem with his music, it doesn't mesh dooood
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-12-15 06:52 [#02351421]
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(14:49:49) Fahz0r: http://xltronic.com/mb/111624/flashbulb (14:49:50) Fahz0r: good thread (14:49:59) Mads: yeh
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-12-15 06:53 [#02351422]
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lol
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beNito
from Paris (France) on 2009-12-15 10:54 [#02351471]
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this guy sucks balls, big hairy ones
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 11:08 [#02351475]
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But seriously: what would you like from IDM next?
Not shit music... I'd prefer nothing.
I agree, after Untitled, Go Plastic and Drukqs, where is there to go? Nowhere, that's where.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 11:09 [#02351476]
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Good. I hope you're being serious for a change. :)
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 11:11 [#02351478]
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Yeah, but how can it get better than the big three? That whole era is over! :(
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 11:11 [#02351479]
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Cheers. :)
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 11:16 [#02351483]
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I agree that Flashbulb isn't as good as Thom, Rich, or the Autechre bros, so by trying to be he is just being too ambitious.
The genre that Aphex created? They's some big words. And what would you say the name of this genre is? I am not mocking, I am actually interested.
K, I'll try 'flexing habitual', thanks. :)
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2009-12-15 11:35 [#02351494]
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Thom Jhenkinsohn
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-15 16:00 [#02351586]
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xavtly :)
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2009-12-15 17:07 [#02351601]
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James studied for a National Diploma in Engineering from 1988 to 1990 (aged 16 to 18) at Cornwall College. When talking about his studies, James has said that "music and electronics went hand in hand."[5] James graduated from college; according to an engineering lecturer, however, he often had his headphones on during practical lessons, "no doubt thinking through the mixes he'd be working on later"
Whitman studied computer music at Berklee College of Musi...
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2009-12-15 17:17 [#02351603]
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the person that comes out of college depends on the person that goes in. kfw went into college an innately awesome musician, and came out awesome with added music technique secrets.
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thatne
from United States on 2009-12-15 17:38 [#02351608]
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flahbulb called a girl "angel tits" during sexz0rs
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2009-12-15 17:49 [#02351612]
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come horn
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Advocate
on 2009-12-15 18:10 [#02351621]
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i would never befriend someone regularly listening to this.
but that's just me.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 16:03 [#02351907]
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Well said, me neither.
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2009-12-16 16:13 [#02351916]
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my red hot extensions of ripoff shit
....CAR
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2009-12-16 16:14 [#02351917]
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does anyone remember when he was about to put out a new album and all these groupies on his forum were like "i'm doin a school project on u can u cum ova to my hous an hang out"? it was along those lines anyway.
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RussellDust
on 2009-12-16 16:19 [#02351923]
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Wow thanks! This has left me feeling violated. I'd rather listen to cygnus talking about stars and clams!
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 16:19 [#02351924]
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No, but lol!
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 16:31 [#02351929]
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Wow, this music is fucking awesome, thanks!
I am not saying ALL people who get educated in any way are not creative, I am saying that I think this individual, Benn Jordan, sounds as if he got all his knowledge on how to make music from secondary sources, music college possible being one of them.
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2009-12-16 16:40 [#02351937]
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yeah I realise that, no worries. I don't listen to Flashbulb anyway, though the little that I have heard is decent enough to get riled up to. tunes like his are ten a penny nowadays though.
Hrvatski is quality, download the track "Carrot (Hrvatski's nightvision)" if you're looking for music that melds 'live' instruments and chopped breaks
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 16:45 [#02351940]
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I am feeling a little less than 100%, since I am home atm and kinda bored, so thanks for helping me discover a fucking good artist. It makes my evening more ace. Preciate it. :)
BTW, I really liked your old, slightly creepy skull-ish avy. What ever happened to it?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-12-16 17:53 [#02351976]
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His newer stuff is more interesting to me than the show off glitchy stuff. I feel glitchy stuff is a bit dangerous to a track, it can make it or seriously break it, in terms of it being part of the composition, or just a blatant attack of 'look what i can do'.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 18:20 [#02351997]
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Yeah, I kinda like artists like that. Because I don't make music myself I can never fully appreciate how hard it is or how much work goes into making extremely original and intricate and technical stuff, like Drukqs. So when I hear stuff that is just as ambitious, but not as good it is good, cos I have something to compare it to. And this makes me appreciates artists who are actually good that little bit more. :)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2009-12-16 18:55 [#02352032]
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Because I don't make music myself I can never fully appreciate how hard it is or how much work goes into making extremely original and intricate and technical stuff, like Drukqs.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-16 18:59 [#02352037]
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Yeah...?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2009-12-16 19:02 [#02352041]
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i think in this case you are missing out. i recon you could listen to kirlain selections all the way throu. as you have hinted, you think this kind of music is definitive idm, but to me that is meaningless. go grab the album and give it a good listen. its not clinical as you say, its a great style and a great listen.
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