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Anger can be deep inside. I bottled a lot of anger so when it came out it was just bad news. Btw, now i think about it, Daniel Pinchbeck and Alejandro Jodorowsky are very interesting. And alive. They met for the purpose of a documentary recently. Funny stuff i thought. At one point Jodorowsky tells Pinchbeck to wear an item of clothing from his dead father, dress up his wife with his mum's clothes and fuck her. I think Freud came in his grave at that point. |
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Athens is a terrible place to drive in. |
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I hadn't heard of Pinchbeck before i saw that. I quite like him. |
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I like the vibe in this thread. |
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yeah detroit is pretty much the same. i have learned to spend a little more time and drive through neighborhoods. |
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Yeah, I watched a bunch of Jodorowsky films. Holy Mountain et al. Pretty good, but quite weird. Not as crazy as though, haha! God bless John Waters. That sample of 'this boys needs therapy' from the song by Avalanches was from a film by John Waters too, called Polyester. |
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I think Waters can thank Jodorowsky. Apparently he was 'pupil' of his. Don't just see Jodorowsky as a movie maker though. He's done so much stuff. I'd love to have him do my tarot cards one day. He does it for free sometimes in this little cafe in Paris. |
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small roads tend to be safer 4reaL |
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Mm, me too. It is warm and fuzzy. :) And I am listening to Supreme Balloon by Matmos, which is a very warm 24 minute track too, so only adds to the mood. |
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Shit, really? Man, you're a right little fountain of knowledge you, ent yah? :) That's a great image- Jodorowsky doing tarot for free in a little cafe in Paris. Kinda gives you faith that there is still some good left in this crazy old world. And I didn't realise Water was a student of his! That's cool stuff- makes sense too, as they are both pioneers indeed! Have you seen Pink Flamingos? |
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Do you like Harmony Korine? His new one looks like a winner |
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"Pink Flamingos" Yes but i'd like to see it again. I don't think i was in the mood and it was ages ago. Can't forget the ending though. He went a bit lightweight after that didn't he? |
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Fuck! Scrotal wedgie! Ah, there we go. Yeah, Gummo is naturalistic, like a documentary yet kinda subtly magical as well. I can't remember if it was here that I was reading about his new film, but someone somewhere said that they heard it was supposed to have a soundtrack by Sigur Ros, which they thought was a bad thing. Maybe cos that would mean it would have a bigger budget than the last and be a bit more Hollywood orientated, I dunno. I like Takashi Miike, Tod Solondz, and American Beauty. They are some of most favouritest films. What about you? |
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Shit, the first two are directors not films obviously, lol! |
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Yeah, when you make a film that hardcore, you can only go lightweight! XD I think it was exactly the right film for the era. It could never be done again, just wouldn't be allowed. I mean, killing a chicken in a film would just not get aired anywhere nowadays, lol. Let alone a chicken being killed in a scene of rape, haha! |
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Anything by Herzog, Kubrick, Hitchcock, Korine, Lynch instantly comes to mind... pretty normal i'd say. One of the only films that i constantly remember when asked my favourite films is Jacob's Ladder. I really like Solondz. Happiness was great. Have you seen Julien Donkey-boy. I'm such a Herzog fanboy it's a joy to watch him act. |
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why dont you just admit you're gay |
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Wow, the trailer was really peculiar! The synopsis makes it sound like something I would definitely enjoy, though! My e-mail is traxt01@gmailDOTcom, would you be so kind as to send me a list of interesting films, the like of which we been discussing? I bought The Birds, but I never finished it, cos it was just so darn boring for most of it... I wanna watch Psycho, though. Amongst others, of course. Have you seen anything by Takashi Miike? My faves aren't his most famous ones, but his slightly older Yakuza ones, particularly Ley Lines and Blues Harp is so bloody beautiful. It has violence and stuff, but it is also about friendship and relationships and it's got a great ending. It is definitely in my top 3. With Happiness and American beauty, I think. |
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Cos I don't want to give you an open invitiation. |
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this is my philosophy you're a fucking nonse |
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I've seen The Happiness of the Katakuris and that's it i think. Sure i'll send you a mail. Rope is a brilliant Hitchock film that pops to mind. American Beauty is good. The last film where i could still tolerate Spacey. |
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you've started a thread on philosophy and you have no fucking idea on the subject. fuck off and read up, or just fuck off. |
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*strokes beard* Interesting... |
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lol |
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learn to grow a beard then i might take you seriously. btw guybrush is a twat. |
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Yeah, Happiness of the katakuris is good. My friend had the option to study it in film studies at college as a foreign cinema choice, which I thought was cool. The stop animation in the opening scene is really cool, don't you think? Yeah, I'll check out Rope, thanks. Do you not like Spacey then? |
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perhaps someone could explain to me what spirituality is. seems like one of those dumb words that doesn't actually mean anything, so how it exists within philosophy is a meaningless statement to me. |
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lol. I know this will sound a bit pathetic, but I don't give a shit; I have got a bit of stubble actually- I am thinking about growing a beard. Never done it before though, so it'll probably turn out badly, though I guess that's just part of the learning curve. Kinda films do you like, then? |
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The definition on Wiki is quite good, actually: Spirituality is relating to, consisting of, or having the nature of spirit; not tangible or material. Synonyms include immaterialism, dualism, incorporeality and eternity. Spirituality is associated with religion, deities, the supernatural, and an afterlife, although the decline of organized religion in the West and the growth of secularism has brought about a wider understanding of its nature. |
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Ah i was waiting for you to turn up. And yes i find spacey to be a pedantic wet ponce. |
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Um, you do know that's not Kevin Spacey, right? ;) |
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"Don't take it personally, I just hate women." lulz! |
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means fuck all then? |
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Thanks for pointing that out. |
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I wouldn't say so, no. But you can think what you like, fella. :) "For some, spirituality includes introspection, and the development of an individual's inner life through practices such as meditation, prayer and contemplation. Some modern religions also see spirituality in everything: see pantheism and neo-Pantheism. In a similar vein, Religious Naturalism has a spiritual attitude towards the awe, majesty and mystery it sees in the natural world." Do you still think it means nothing? It is a more flexible version of religion and/ or philosophy, unique to the individual, which changes over time. |
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hehe, sorry. the more he talks, the more he looks like him, actually. |
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Hum, still means nothing. There is nothing unique to an individual and everything changes over time. Contemplation is contemplation, introspection is introspection. meditation and prayer are gimmicks. I maintain that "spirituality" is one of the most nonsensical words in the english dictionary. |
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Yeah, i see your point. It is a bit wishy washy, but it still means something imo. I'm gonna agree to disagree on this one. |
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I'd like to think I have my own spirituality.. In one sense it's a very down to earth spirituality, I like to enjoy normal stuff that we do everyday, but I also like to use my imagination and think about far out stuff, through the help of music and movies etc. In my case, spirituality just means an awareness of what's around me, inside me, and a general emotional/thoughtful view of "everything" If you mean spirituality in terms of healing, secret chakras and gods etc then no, that's not for me. I just use what I have been given and I always try to appreciate what a situation means, and what something means to me. I don't just stroll through life without contemplating how things are. |
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In your case, philosophical would probably be a more appropriate description of you than spiritual. To me spiritual, spiritualism etc. is like some chic made up hippie word from the seventies, lumped in with meditation, karma and all that other nonsensical bollocks that doesn't mean anything. These terms are perversions, just like meditation is a complete perversion of meditate, which is a very correct and insightful word. |
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I completely disagree. If you didn't even know how it was defined in the first place, you not liking it, this thing you don't understand, doesn't hold much sway with me. I don't mean this is a hostile or aggressive way and I'm not saying you're stupid or anything, cos you're obviously very intelligent. It's just my opinion. Maybe one day I'll agree with you. cx's defintion of spirituality is good, I think. It is a subjective thing, therefore hard to define. Maybe that's why you don't like the idea of it. If you just think of it as 'of the spirit', a way of dealing with the spirit of things, abstract ideas of any kind, maybe that'll help. Or maybe you think that's bollocks too, I dunno. |
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spiritual, spiritualism These things are entirely different: Spiritualism is a monotheistic belief system or religion, postulating a belief in God, but the distinguishing feature is belief that spirits of the dead can be contacted, either by individuals or by gifted or trained "mediums", who can provide information about the afterlife. This is far more specific than spirituality. |
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"To me spiritual, spiritualism etc. is like some chic made up hippie word from the seventies, lumped in with meditation, karma and all that other nonsensical bollocks that doesn't mean anything." haha. Why bother trying to explain something you don't seem to grasp yourself. |
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In relation to religion, spirituality is the practice, while religion is the theory. Also, with spirituality, "faith becomes more personal, less dogmatic, more open to experimentation, and is based upon personal experience." ...which kinda does sound a bit like drug taking of the 60s. TBH, I can't see anything which says you can't reach a spiritual goal by using drugs. Maybe you would reach some kind of 'temporary enlightenment', but then when you come down, you'd lost it, so it's more like faux spiritualism. I suppose that kind of thing would be based on experience, though. |
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If it's not really happening, I wouldn't really say it's an 'experience', per se. And with drugs, what you see isn't really there in reality, so drugs aren't associated with spirituality and nothing to do with "hippy chic". |
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I think barcode is confusing hippy chic, medation and all the other new age crap with spirituality. To be honest i'm not a fan at all either, and these cunts shouldn't take the meaning and twist it for their use. |
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Generally those who say "ooh i'm a very spiritual person" are full of shit. |
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Exactly. You've obviously never, ever tried meditation (in the true, non-fashionable word which means nothing sense), if you think it is bollocks. Maybe it doesn't work as well for you as for others, but it will have an instant effect if you try it, I 100% guarantee. You obviously have no idea what it actually is. |
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